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Yes, it really is. I love forests since being child. It is my temple, where I can meditate, solve difficult tasks, keep my mind open and enjoy the peace. There you are not disturbed by anything. Just sitting there, listening sounds of it, seeing it and sensing in general opens the door. With lasers it is surreal, really - but it might be extremely dangerous. I noticed there is enormous number of insect flying now. Once they cross the beam, it is a very bright flash - not very convenient to see. Often the moths even burn their wings when hitting collimated beam of high power - I've seen it many times - moths on ground below the beam path trying to fly without success.
I'm sorry, I was traveling for work this past week and didn't get much time idle. I definitely know what you mean about the forest!! I take it you grew up in/close to the mountains? I grew up in Colorado and agree, there's something unspeakably magical and serene about being in completely present and immersed in nature! I can't imagine seeing in person how lasers bring it alive and from your artwork, it brings hidden details and captivating shadows the lasers reveal. Oh no, that would be startling! I didn't think about that, but it now that I do, I'll bet that happens a lot with their glutenous love for lights lol.

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For most people the philosophical questions are not really important, they focus on common questions. Still, I do not believe they asked some questions themselves. To these questions I'm trying to give answers, still these are hard to get if you focussed only on common things you have experience with (size and weight scales, space, time...) - I call it common experience. Quantum mechanics and general relativity are good examples of stuff people just cannot get. I'm member of Cosmology facebook group and the questions and answers I read there are often not only completely wrong, but often even do not make sense at all. That happens, when you are not able to think out of the box, refuse your common experience as dogma and step by step adopt what QM and GR really says. As they are talking about stuff out of our common experience (for common experience Newton is just good enough approximation), they cannot be understood by concepts coming out from common experience - might seem as paradox as here common sense is used.
I think you raise a great point and one not often contemplated! I couldn't agree more that the right questions are common not asked and the general population is confined to thinking in limited terms and boundaries set forth by restricted or black/white beliefs. By defining our world by exact 'standards', I feel like it's a sort of programming, if you will, to establish very finite measurements of what's possible/probable and impossible/improbable and consequently impairing our ability to challenge our existence as we understand it. I know for myself, learning to think outside of the box and expand why imagination of what's possible has required a conscious effort and practice to come to. Lol, it is very paradoxical! What amazes me is some so-called 'fundamental' principles and theories in physics that have been accepted for decades even centuries have been challenged and few even proven to be flawed and there is an ethereal component we're missing, yet our understanding of our universe and what is taught remain incorrect and unaltered.

Sorry, I got a bit enveloped in your perspective Radim and briefly took a trip down a rabbit hole.


You were talking about learning of new techniques you learn and things not to do in every piece you create... I am curious if you've been able to experiment much with using atmospheric conditions (i.e. temperature inversions, rain, etc.) and any possible effects they have on the lasers to change the exposures you're after for your artwork?
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I'm sorry, I was traveling for work this past week and didn't get much time idle. I definitely know what you mean about the forest!! I take it you grew up in/close to the mountains? I grew up in Colorado and agree, there's something unspeakably magical and serene about being in completely present and immersed in nature! I can't imagine seeing in person how lasers bring it alive and from your artwork, it brings hidden details and captivating shadows the lasers reveal. Oh no, that would be startling! I didn't think about that, but it now that I do, I'll bet that happens a lot with their glutenous love for lights lol.

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Oh, thanks Av8tor. That is a really great comment you wrote.

There is nothing to be sorry about, noone here is obliged to spend 24 hours a day here.

You are right. I can see mountains (Beskids) from my home. However these are not really high. Still I grew up close to them, but in non mountain landscape. Likely there were influences of my grandfather taking me to the forests with his dog(s). He was "hunter" (but at these times not using firearm and more taking care about wildlife and forest itself). Another were me going to summer camps and being scout. I learned a lot about nature and love for it remained till nowadays, even none of these influences are present anymore. However almost entire my girlfriend's family are "hunters" as well. But more than shooting taking care about forest and wildlife and observing it. Hopefully you have had something similar like me.

Doing laserpaintings is not only beautiful experience, but also a lot of work and responsibility for safety. Still I only see the idea in my mind untill it is done and processed by camera, than I can check the result. As it is imposible to do it in one moment, they are painted per partes and many tricks are used (but no computer of course, all of them are single photo shots). You would be surprised how the scene composition setups look in reality as playing with perspective is very important here. And as lasers are very bright, directed and intense light sources, they create amazing shadows from little details. It is the same effect as you can see on the Moon close to terminator (day-night border on the Moon), the right angle of bright light makes the mountains and craters to get long shadows easily visible from Earth with some (even cheap) binocular or telescope. I really love to play with illuminating various surfaces and objects, there are incredible patterns created by light and shadow game.

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I think you raise a great point and one not often contemplated! I couldn't agree more that the right questions are common not asked and the general population is confined to thinking in limited terms and boundaries set forth by restricted or black/white beliefs. By defining our world by exact 'standards', I feel like it's a sort of programming, if you will, to establish very finite measurements of what's possible/probable and impossible/improbable and consequently impairing our ability to challenge our existence as we understand it. I know for myself, learning to think outside of the box and expand why imagination of what's possible has required a conscious effort and practice to come to. Lol, it is very paradoxical! What amazes me is some so-called 'fundamental' principles and theories in physics that have been accepted for decades even centuries have been challenged and few even proven to be flawed and there is an ethereal component we're missing, yet our understanding of our universe and what is taught remain incorrect and unaltered.

Sorry, I got a bit enveloped in your perspective Radim and briefly took a trip down a rabbit hole.


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"Black/white beliefs" - really great description of kind of bipolar thinking - I like to say there are even wide scale of grey between and more - there are other colors and some are even invisible to us. With thinking inside box people are just taking themselves away from great ideas and beauties of this world. They just miss major part of it in deed.

Luckily nowadays (and even in science history) there are (were) people capable to get out of the box and search and discover new views of our world. Still it is being forgotten to be more philosophical sometimes and the philosophy is the mother of science, therefore science has her genes. I do not like "buts", but there is some - there exist a lot of conspiracy theories and kind of these things. This IMO keeps people sometimes blind to out of box explanations and often too sceptic to new ideas. Scepticism is a very good thing, but is needed to use it wisely.

And be welcomed in rabbit hole(s). If you are not in risk of cutting yourself out from reality, there is nothing wrong with it.

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You were talking about learning of new techniques you learn and things not to do in every piece you create... I am curious if you've been able to experiment much with using atmospheric conditions (i.e. temperature inversions, rain, etc.) and any possible effects they have on the lasers to change the exposures you're after for your artwork?

Regarding various techiques - yes, I tried rain, snow, fog and various atmospheric conditions. Since I started to do laserpainting more in artistic way. Unfortunately rain and snow are proven to be very unfriendly to lasers and optics especially during windy weather, so it is difficult. Still I got these artworks during inversions and high light pollution therefore (city and vilages are not far). However I meaned it more like new ways how to use laser light in laserpainting, new patterns, objects, optics setups, compositions etc.


I posted below my earlier experiments/works. Yes, there are so many errors, but you can at least compare it with those recent artworks.

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If you have asked me why I love 589 nm laser, I would have answered because it's DPSS, because it's unique pure golden light, because...





The Laser Sun

It's a day at night in the forest. The sun is shining on the sky – is it real or is it not? What is real? What is dream? The souls of the trees, the souls of the light? The esence of reality is surreal… Many words all spoken by single picture…

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Yes, it‘s a real photo, no computer graphics, just pure laser painting of my style.

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Here some earlier pics with the inversion and light pollution. You might find more posted earlier in this thread. Note: The pics are taken in my Black forest, which is not in the mountains, so no cloud layer is at the bottom of the photo, and no clear sky. The inversion just caused a lot of smog in the sky at lower altitudes and brought therefore the light of sodium street lamps into the forest. Still it nicely fits 589 nm laser since 589 nm is sodium line. So I used it creatively instead of trying to remove somehow the light pollution... It was inevitable anyway since no leaves were on trees and often there was snow reflecting it.


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I really love this thread a lot of beautiful pictures! Aardvark777, will manners, ArcticDude and others...

Thanks to all keeping it alive.

To contribute more - here is what I shot yesterday in the night after work. It was heavy snowing (roads being closed), I used my mountain bike to get to the forest to my favourite place, but I should have used skis instead - big mistake. BTW: However it was fun in 30 - 40 cm of fresh snow, but downhill, uphill I had almost no traction.

I was doing also some other study pictures for my next project - new laserpainting method. I need to improve it to publish some pictures - but I got valuable experience. Anyway this picture is my "usual" style and was worth all the dificulties with weather and keeping lasers and camera dry.




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In deep black forest, when not observed, the Tree performs a vortex of concentrated magic

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Just a few pictures. More at my instagram (see my signature).
And these are my very early experiments with mobile camera (except the one with bubbles and green beam below - third from bottom). These were the first I found courage to post on LPF.


All these quoted pictures I posted in ArcticDude's Enchanted Beams Thread, before I started this one. The Laser Sun is however quoted even at opening post of this thread, as that one was the first artwork I was honestly proud of. I highly recommend Arctic's thread, he does really great beamshots.

And if you wish to see some awesome indoor artistry search for Brucemir he has a lot of threads with his awesome works here for example.
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I just like to write stuff, what I've realized...
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