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Old 11-05-2008, 06:23 PM   #51
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awesome! well lets keep adding to it! any more questions?
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could you do me a favor.could you ask the owner of photolexon why i can't register.if he/she wants to email me tell him/her to contact jamilm9@yahooo.ca .thanks
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why? whats the problem?
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or some reason i can't sign up. Quote:
Sorry, we are unable to register your account at this time.

and on the op amp board what do you do with all the pots
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try tomorrow or in a few days.

might be a temp problem
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Old 11-06-2008, 02:28 AM   #56
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i tried a week ago and tried today.no luck. :'(
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a quick goggle search found me this...

http://www.keenzo.com/showproduct.as...345&ref=GB

i searched for
25 serial ribbon cable

but really you dont need it to be a ribbon cable

i have since put min into a project box so this is all hidden
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Old 11-08-2008, 12:54 AM   #59
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i like how the ribbon looks and wouldn't it be easier to wire it like that. Now every where i go I'm constantly looking for cases. So many nice ones in music class. :-X
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i like how the ribbon looks and wouldn't it be easier to wire it like that. Now every where i go I'm constantly looking for cases. So many nice ones in music class. :-X

It would be a bit easier to wire it like that, the cord type 25 pin connectors are a pain in the butt to figure out which wire goes to which pin, I had to sit and test each one individually when I was wiring with one.
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how about tuning the scanner.How bad would it be with a sound card dac and scanpro 20
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You can tune the scanner according to the DAC . theres instructions here on how to tune the scanners.
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adams tutorial is GREAT, i highly recommend it! and you dont tune your scanners to match your dac.

you tune your scanners to look good at certain speeds.

ilda standard is 30kpps and as long as your scanners are at least 30k then you tune to 30 if they are 40 k you still tune them for 30k


for 20 k scanners you tune to 20

but you only tune your scanners when the ilda test pattern isnt up to par
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WHY CAN'T THEY PRE TUNE THEM.IT LOOKS HARD AND DANGEROUS.(opps caps on)
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WHY CAN'T THEY PRE TUNE THEM.IT LOOKS HARD AND DANGEROUS.(opps caps one)

they usually do
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Old 11-10-2008, 03:41 AM   #66
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do they tune scanpro 20's
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Old 11-10-2008, 04:46 AM   #67
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yes all scanners are pre tuned but they are not perfect.

your scan pro 20s will work fine without tuning.

just dont expect perfection
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MY SP20's worked out of the box ;D
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Rather than starting a new thread i figured i'd throw a quick post in here. I've found locally some "catweazle" 30K scanners with the controller board that the scanner connect to, and a 200mw green labby with psu. I don't quite understand exactly what i need, software and/or hardware wise to control the "catweazle" gear.

Is it going to be wrth the money (scanners ~USD80, labby ~USD145). I'm just starting out on the laser stuff, and i'm thinking this might be a big step in the beginning and i have no idea how often this kind of stuff comes up (esp locally in Australia). With the restrictions on importing more powerful lasers i'm seriously considering juts buying the green lab laser even if i don't end up with the scanners as i know it would be hard to get.

I have looked on PL, but couldn't find much (if any) info on the catweazle gear, which means its rubbish or its ancient (some links to threads with info were 404's).

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i personally have never heard of catweazle scanners but they are 30k and if they work thats a good deal non the less.

i would personally jump on it, im pretty sure you will not find another deal like this especially locally.

the only other thing you would need is a DAC and software.


you could get the sound card dac and use free programs such as laserboy or spaghetti.



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well how do you use laser boy?Thanks
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oh gosh this thread is not the place to discuss this.. lol

i think the best idea is to just play with it and spend some time learning. i personally have spent +15 hours on the phone with james (creator of laserboy) talking about what all it can do and having him walk me through how it works.

its a very powerful program but it takes some patience to learn.

i still cant really draw with it very well but i can do some pretty cool effects to .ild frames

actually now that i think about it james just started a thread on pl of how to use part of it.

keep checking it out it is an on going thread.

http://www.photonlexicon.com/forums/...ead.php?t=5814
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so if i put a switch between 4 and 17 i can turn it on and off.what about 13
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How do i power the actual scanner
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13 is only useful if you have a shutter. that is left untouched if you dont.

and yes bridge the 4 and 17 or hook it to an emergency stop button.

what do you mean by powering the actual scanners? like the whole thing like lasers galvos and fans?

simple.

each laser will have its own ac to dc psu and the galvos will too.

so you can run a ac power cord to one of the psu's and then bridge the connections to each psu you have.



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