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Default ILDA 10k scanner - What can it really do?

ok this thread is intended to give detail about how good a 10k scanner is, for those who are just starting out.

the cost -

you can get 10k scanner from as little as 45
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and laser of your choice, i would recommend a laser with analogue blanking. IM not a fan of TTL. im using a 200mw green with analogue blanking

so total cost without laser under 80

took me about 4 hours to put togther, thats from start to finish. this is my 5 scanner build so i do know what im doing now.










after running mine for a number of hours yesterday it does need a fan

i hate youtube so please download the videos here and they are in good quality.

there is some flicker from the camera, in real life the scanner does not flicker

10k scanners are great for beam shows they will do pretty much anything you throw at them. as shown in the below video they can do fast/random/mad beam shows

www.laser-man.co.uk/2006/10k/Compound20969.mpg


they can also do slow/smooth beam shows

www.laser-man.co.uk/2006/10k/Compound21832.mpg


they can do simple animations, you will see some flicker on the more complecx animations

www.laser-man.co.uk/2006/10k/Compound22958.mpg


this last video shows the scanner doing slightly more complex beam shows

www.laser-man.co.uk/2006/10k/Compound22494.mpg


heres two videos of the scanner in a large room with the rgb scanner above

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAQIewRMAdA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9lDmoahBXw

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Default Re: ILDA 10k scanner - What can it really do?

ive missed the most important part!!!!

the DAC!!!

a good dac and software are the most important part. you could have the best scanners and best lasers going but they wont perform well without a good dac.

i used moncha for these thread.

you can get a 12k version of moncha n ebay for cheap


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Default Re: ILDA 10k scanner - What can it really do?

Sound mate, I am really impressed what ya can get out of a 10k scanner and cheap DAC I really hope i can achive something just as good with my 20k's and Soundcard DAC.

I have gotta say a big thank you for uploading videos from UK Meet, I really wanted to come along but couldnt get the time off work. Plus it would have been nice to come with a working scanner. But i aint got a working laser at the moment. But atleast i got to see some of the cool goings on at the meet

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That's a cheap DAC? $300 USD at 12k? Damn, that's expensive. Like twice as expensive as everything else, not including laser.

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Default Re: ILDA 10k scanner - What can it really do?

So, without the DAC, what can it do?

Also, how well can you program the effects? Is it all PC operated?
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Sound mate, * I am really impressed what ya can get out of a 10k scanner and cheap DAC *I really hope i can achive something just as good with my 20k's and Soundcard DAC.

I have gotta say a big thank you for uploading videos from UK Meet, *I really wanted to come along but couldnt get the time off work. Plus it would have been nice to come with a working scanner. *But i aint got a working laser at the moment. *But atleast i got to see some of the cool goings on at the meet

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yes thats cheap, your working with lasers here. nothing to do with lasers is cheap.

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Also, how well can you program the effects? Is it all PC operated?
without a dac it wont even turn on!! this is an ilda projector not a dmx projector.

a dac is just an interface between the laser and the computer the software controls everything.
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Ah, I see. So it's not limited on what it can do then as far as creating effects goes? Can you get scanners like this in DMX format?
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Default Re: ILDA 10k scanner - What can it really do?

nope not limited at all.

if you want a dmx scanner go buy an off the shelf, pre made one.

this thread it not about dmx scanners, but ilda scanners.

this 10k scanner set came with a dmx but i have no use or care for dmx. so you can use the dmx that came with the scanners if you so wish
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Default Re: ILDA 10k scanner - What can it really do?

Them 10k scanners look exactly the same as my scanpro20's, I wonder if the galvo's are actully the same, and its just the Amp's that are bigger for the 20k versions.
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they may look the same but they wont be

different coils, bearings etc
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Default Re: ILDA 10k scanner - What can it really do?

Andy,

Do you think that you could make an RGB with two of these boxes, the lasers and optics in one, and the DAC, PSUs, and Galvo amps in the other, and just 'attach' them together ?
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ummm not sure, its not a strong box at all.

might work

you dont put the dac in the case, you have it by your pc for easy access
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Default Re: ILDA 10k scanner - What can it really do?

Andy, looks great man! What is the songs name in the 20969.mpg video??? :
My scanner is nearly done, just waiting for my 803t diode and a TTL driver from drlava! its going to be a RGV scanner ;D
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That should be good for a screen-show. All you need is a white, fluorescent screen to make blue from violet.
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