Laser pointer discussion. Read/write reviews of laser pointers and laser pointer companies. Learn about all types of laser pointers and lasers





Welcome to Laser Pointer Forums! If you are looking for a laser pointer or want to compare different laser pointer companies, you may want to check out the LPF Laser Pointer Company Database. The link will open in a new window for your convenience.








Green Laser Pointers by Category Blue Laser Pointers by Category Red Laser Pointers by Category
Yellow Laser Pointers by Category Violet Laser Pointers by Category Orange Laser Pointers by Category
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes
Laser Technology Laser Pointer Parts Lasers by Wavelength
Top 10 Laser Pointer Companies Laser Pointer Company Database Visible Beam Laser Pointers


One laser store meets all your needs

























Go Back   Laser Pointer Forums - Discuss Laser Pointers > Lasers > Laser Shows



LPF List of Laser Pointer Companies (link opens new window)



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-11-2013, 05:00 AM #17
EpicHam's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 1,022
Rep Power: 95
EpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond repute
EpicHam EpicHam is offline
Class 3R Laser
EpicHam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 1,022
Rep Power: 95
EpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Consider my mind BOGGLED!

So its just basically one of those RGB lasers that goes for about 300 each fitted with a RGB analogue control board , a DAC board and a set of galvos + software.

So bringing the total to about 600-700 usd right?

How hard can it be?



Last edited by EpicHam; 08-11-2013 at 05:01 AM.
EpicHam is offline   Reply With Quote







LPF List of Laser Pointer Companies (link opens new window)







Old 08-11-2013, 08:12 AM #18
vk2fro's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,154
Rep Power: 160
vk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond repute
vk2fro vk2fro is offline
Class 3R Laser
vk2fro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,154
Rep Power: 160
vk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Consider my mind BOGGLED!

Yeah but those RGB units have horrible beam specs - the red laser is huge, and so is the blue.
__________________
Taipan Projector: 3.5-4 W B(445nm)1.5W, G(532nm)1.5W R(637nm)1W DT30 Still building!
All solid state PJ: 1W B(462)400mw G(520)200mw R(638) 400mw DT40W (collecting bits)
Pointers: 1.0 watt "Z-Lase" - 520 nm diode by DTR attached to segelei zmax V5 Vaporizer
Gassers: Omnichrome 643 Multi Line AR/KR+ ION!!!! doing ~190mW Low hours too!
Siemens 3 mw 632nm helium neon
vk2fro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2013, 08:17 AM #19
EpicHam's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 1,022
Rep Power: 95
EpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond repute
EpicHam EpicHam is offline
Class 3R Laser
EpicHam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 1,022
Rep Power: 95
EpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Consider my mind BOGGLED!

Quote:
Originally Posted by vk2fro View Post
Yeah but those RGB units have horrible beam specs - the red laser is huge, and so is the blue.
So what I want will be a RGB lasers with more or less the same beam diameter and divergence while maintaining the balance to produce a good white beam?
EpicHam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2013, 09:58 PM #20
vk2fro's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,154
Rep Power: 160
vk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond repute
vk2fro vk2fro is offline
Class 3R Laser
vk2fro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,154
Rep Power: 160
vk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Consider my mind BOGGLED!

That is correct. You use beams with vastly different beam sizes (e.g. a 3mm green, a 5mm red and a 4x2 blue) yes the blue will line up ok, but anything using the red will have red tinges to it because its so big. And since its so big, you'll need more power to even out the color balance.

Alignment of a projector is probably the hardest bit, seconded by wiring it
__________________
Taipan Projector: 3.5-4 W B(445nm)1.5W, G(532nm)1.5W R(637nm)1W DT30 Still building!
All solid state PJ: 1W B(462)400mw G(520)200mw R(638) 400mw DT40W (collecting bits)
Pointers: 1.0 watt "Z-Lase" - 520 nm diode by DTR attached to segelei zmax V5 Vaporizer
Gassers: Omnichrome 643 Multi Line AR/KR+ ION!!!! doing ~190mW Low hours too!
Siemens 3 mw 632nm helium neon
vk2fro is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-11-2013, 10:13 PM #21
Class 2 Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 349
Rep Power: 3905
swamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond repute
swamidog swamidog is offline
Class 2 Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 349
Rep Power: 3905
swamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Consider my mind BOGGLED!

the "lite" version of LSX plus a riya lite dac is slightly less than 1/2 the price of Quickshow/FB3. (274$)

the "pro" version of LSX and a etherdream dac is *slightly* more expensive than Quickshow/FB3 (619$ vs. 595$).

lsx is more complex, but considerably more powerful than quickshow,

Quote:
Originally Posted by Things View Post
Not anything decent, no. iShow is the cheapest, but it's also a heap of shit and shouldn't even exist, LSX is probably the next cheapest, but you also need a DAC for it, I think LSX + an Etherdream and the FB3/QS end up roughly the same price, with LSX a little cheaper. Good software is not cheap.

Last edited by swamidog; 08-11-2013 at 10:15 PM.
swamidog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2013, 01:39 AM #22
EpicHam's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 1,022
Rep Power: 95
EpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond repute
EpicHam EpicHam is offline
Class 3R Laser
EpicHam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 1,022
Rep Power: 95
EpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Consider my mind BOGGLED!

What's so special about their DAC that's worth $400?
Can't I just build one out of Arduino?
EpicHam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2013, 03:31 AM #23
Class 2 Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 349
Rep Power: 3905
swamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond repute
swamidog swamidog is offline
Class 2 Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 349
Rep Power: 3905
swamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Consider my mind BOGGLED!

you can, they just won't have the resolution or speed of higher quality DACs.

here are some examples: http://www.fab-favreau.com/index.php...enLaserShowDAC

notice the top speed is 30kpps and the limited color resolution.

on the other hand, they're quite inexpensive. i could never use them for my laser shows, but they would be ok for beam shows. especially if your lasers were just TTL.

Quote:
Originally Posted by EpicHam View Post
What's so special about their DAC that's worth $400?
Can't I just build one out of Arduino?
swamidog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2013, 03:39 AM #24
EpicHam's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 1,022
Rep Power: 95
EpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond repute
EpicHam EpicHam is offline
Class 3R Laser
EpicHam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 1,022
Rep Power: 95
EpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond reputeEpicHam has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Consider my mind BOGGLED!

Quote:
Originally Posted by swamidog View Post
you can, they just won't have the resolution or speed of higher quality DACs.

here are some examples: http://www.fab-favreau.com/index.php...enLaserShowDAC

notice the top speed is 30kpps and the limited color resolution.

on the other hand, they're quite inexpensive. i could never use them for my laser shows, but they would be ok for beam shows. especially if your lasers were just TTL.
so.
If I want to have a show similar to that of the Ministry show.
Why cyclic rate do I need?
Is 40kpps any good?
Cos above that it start to get expensive.
VERY EXPENSIVE ....

Last edited by EpicHam; 08-12-2013 at 03:40 AM.
EpicHam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2013, 03:57 AM #25
Class 2 Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 349
Rep Power: 3905
swamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond repute
swamidog swamidog is offline
Class 2 Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 349
Rep Power: 3905
swamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond reputeswamidog has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Consider my mind BOGGLED!

40kpps is probably fine, but generally that's more of a restriction due to your glavos than your DAC.

Quote:
Originally Posted by EpicHam View Post
What's so special about their DAC that's worth $400?
Can't I just build one out of Arduino?
Quote:
Originally Posted by EpicHam View Post
so.
If I want to have a show similar to that of the Ministry show.
Why cyclic rate do I need?
Is 40kpps any good?
Cos above that it start to get expensive.
VERY EXPENSIVE ....
swamidog is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-16-2013, 06:51 AM #26
vk2fro's Avatar
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,154
Rep Power: 160
vk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond repute
vk2fro vk2fro is offline
Class 3R Laser
vk2fro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,154
Rep Power: 160
vk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond reputevk2fro has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Consider my mind BOGGLED!

Yep 40kpps galvos will do that show, and quite a lot of graphics shows as well.

There are two more popular examples - the Dragon Tiger 40's (or DT40's for short) and the Dragon Tiger 40W's (or DT40W's for short). They are almost always referred to by their short name e.g. "I have a set of DT40W's in my projector, whats in yours?".

The two differentiate in one aspect - the DT40W's have smaller mirrors than the DT40's (which can be bought with the small mirrors or the larger mirrors which fit fatter beams - the smaller mirrors will take up to a 3mm beam without overspill, or 4mm beams with only a small amount of overspill), and the 40W's can do beam shows at stupidly insane angles like 90! Note that I mentioned beam shows. Doing a graphics show with a set of DT40W's at over the normal angle (into their "wide territory", or where their scan angle exceeds that of normal scanners) will ruin them.
__________________
Taipan Projector: 3.5-4 W B(445nm)1.5W, G(532nm)1.5W R(637nm)1W DT30 Still building!
All solid state PJ: 1W B(462)400mw G(520)200mw R(638) 400mw DT40W (collecting bits)
Pointers: 1.0 watt "Z-Lase" - 520 nm diode by DTR attached to segelei zmax V5 Vaporizer
Gassers: Omnichrome 643 Multi Line AR/KR+ ION!!!! doing ~190mW Low hours too!
Siemens 3 mw 632nm helium neon

Last edited by vk2fro; 08-16-2013 at 06:53 AM. Reason: Punctuation
vk2fro is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply





Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On











Loading








Green Laser Pointers by Category Blue Laser Pointers by Category Red Laser Pointers by Category
Yellow Laser Pointers by Category Violet Laser Pointers by Category Orange Laser Pointers by Category
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes






Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use


 


All times are GMT. The time now is 02:04 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use
Copyright (C) 2017 Laser Pointer Forums, LLC