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Old 01-15-2011, 12:38 AM #17
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Good hell! It's morons like these that make me wish for Class 3b+ laser licensing.


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That shows the absolute ignorance that the general public has to these high power lasers. An attractive light beam is just like moths to the porch light.
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That shows the absolute ignorance that the general public has to these high power lasers. An attractive light beam is just like moths to the porch light.
"well its just a light right??"

thats what 99% of people would respond
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OMFG Someone should take the damn thing away from HIM.
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Default Re: Can a laser show blind you?

What am I missing here? You're all ranting about that guy in a video.

He's pointing a laser downwards and holding a cigarette in his hand, thus avoiding any dangers of pointing it in somebody's face.
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....If your looking for any more info about audience scanning check this out.....
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http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1493830/Scan...s_2009-09a.ppt
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and mess everything up with his super cool arctic... then the next day when they have blurry vision, they wont think of the jerk off with the pointer, the lawyers will say "well wasn't there some dude running lasers?? sue him!"
This is a true risk if you run laser shows for a living.

Some drunk idiot in the audience could carry a lsser pointer that is far below your well calculated MPE. And the reality of things is that people will complain at the person responsible for the legit laser show since they cannot tell the diffference even if they wanted to.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bryW...eature=related

This place gets away with crowd scanning. Those big shows use 100W-200W of lasers too. I would think that could possibly cause eye damage but it would be extremely unlikely since they are diffracted and moving so quickly. If they had shows near me like this, there would be no way anyone could keep me from going haha
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Those shows are done by a well-known member of the laser show community, Hugo Bunk. The man had a hand in developing the internationally recognised guidelines for audience scanning. I can guarantee you that there is nothing unsafe about those or any other Laser-Image shows. The primary methods of ensuring safety while crowd scanning are software attenuation zones and scan-fail circuits.

The attenuation zones are areas of the projection zone in which the power is dialed back to safe levels. Whenever the scanned beam enters an attenuation zone, it is dimmed. Measurements are taken at various points in the projection zone prior to the show to make sure that the beams are being dimmed enough to be safe.

The scan-fail circuitry is connected to the scanning system in each projector. If the scanning system stops unexpectedly, resulting in a static (motionless) beam, the laser output is killed.

I would be surprised to find that any of those lasers are over 5W.
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Those shows are done by a well-known member of the laser show community, Hugo Bunk. The man had a hand in developing the internationally recognised guidelines for audience scanning. I can guarantee you that there is nothing unsafe about those or any other Laser-Image shows. The primary methods of ensuring safety while crowd scanning are software attenuation zones and scan-fail circuits.

The attenuation zones are areas of the projection zone in which the power is dialed back to safe levels. Whenever the scanned beam enters an attenuation zone, it is dimmed. Measurements are taken at various points in the projection zone prior to the show to make sure that the beams are being dimmed enough to be safe.

The scan-fail circuitry is connected to the scanning system in each projector. If the scanning system stops unexpectedly, resulting in a static (motionless) beam, the laser output is killed.

I would be surprised to find that any of those lasers are over 5W.
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...the main laser deck at Quilmax
Are you and/or I confusing quilmax with qlimax?
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