Laser pointer discussion. Read/write reviews of laser pointers and laser pointer companies. Learn about all types of laser pointers and lasers





Welcome to Laser Pointer Forums! If you are looking for a laser pointer or want to compare different laser pointer companies, you may want to check out the LPF Laser Pointer Company Database. The link will open in a new window for your convenience.








Green Laser Pointers by Category Blue Laser Pointers by Category Red Laser Pointers by Category
Yellow Laser Pointers by Category Violet Laser Pointers by Category Orange Laser Pointers by Category
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes
Laser Technology Laser Pointer Parts Lasers by Wavelength
Top 10 Laser Pointer Companies Laser Pointer Company Database Visible Beam Laser Pointers


One laser store meets all your needs

























Go Back   Laser Pointer Forums - Discuss Laser Pointers > Lasers > Laser Shows



LPF List of Laser Pointer Companies (link opens new window)



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-12-2010, 07:52 PM #1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
sinisterchopper sinisterchopper is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
Default Blue laser project.. Help??

Hello all,
I'm new to this forum, I am wondering if anybody can provide me with some information on an idea I have.
I have some electronic know how as far as fixing LCD screens, adding channels to CB radios and such, so I know the components and how to assemble and solder. But as far as the components needed for my project I am confused.
I am a part time DJ and I would like to add a blue laser to my lighting effects. A couple of ideas I have are as follows.

I have a Scorpion Storm FX red and green laser from Chauvet, and I was thinking about swaping either the green or red laser for a blue. Or adding a blue as well as red and green.
Laser here: Scorpion


I also have a Photon Generator also from Chauvet could I swap this green for a blue. This is the idea I like best.
Laser here: http://www.lighting-effect.com/ebayp.../photongen.pdf

And lastly I bought a cheap Chinese laser on eBay to play around with, maybe just turn this into my blue laser.
Laser here: Amazon.com: Laser Effects Light Show Projector With Red And Green Lights: Everything Else

Any thoughts, ideas or help you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Don
Attached Thumbnails
Blue laser project.. Help??-51vybak8b9l__sl500_aa300_.jpg   Blue laser project.. Help??-31disdnhczl__sl500_aa300_.jpg   Blue laser project.. Help??-241dcef0.jpg  


sinisterchopper is offline   Reply With Quote







LPF List of Laser Pointer Companies (link opens new window)







Old 09-12-2010, 08:03 PM #2
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 1,132
Rep Power: 43
udanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond repute
udanis udanis is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 1,132
Rep Power: 43
udanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Blue laser project.. Help??

I will admit i don't know that much about these just but the first thing you are going to have to see is currents are going to the diodes. From there you can either adjust it to fit the new diodes or match diodes to the current. It will be easier to goto red to 445nm or 405nm than green. Green lasers are ir diodes with special crystals in front of them that convert the color to green. Green lasers modules are usually a good bit different in style and size than red/blue/purple. If you want to convert red to blue/purple that is probably going to be the easiest, all you will have to do is change the diodes and current. Hopefully this gives you some idea.

-Udanis
PS Don't forget to introduce yourself in the welcome section.
__________________
Lasers:
-405nm Ebay Pens
-532nm 250mw Jet Laser PL-C
-532nm O-like Cute 150mW

-Z-Bolt 635nm ~5mw

Website:
Udanis.com
udanis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2010, 08:17 PM #3
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
sinisterchopper sinisterchopper is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Blue laser project.. Help??

Thanks for the info udanis!
I also forgot to mention that the laser can't be anymore powerful than what is already in the factory lasers I have. I want to be safe so that I don't blind any party people
sinisterchopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2010, 08:19 PM #4
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 1,132
Rep Power: 43
udanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond repute
udanis udanis is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 1,132
Rep Power: 43
udanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Blue laser project.. Help??

Quote:
Originally Posted by sinisterchopper View Post
Thanks for the info udanis!
I also forgot to mention that the laser can't be anymore powerful than what is already in the factory lasers I have. I want to be safe so that I don't blind any party people
For that you'll need a laser power meter to get your initial power (unless the mfg states it) then determine what you need from.
__________________
Lasers:
-405nm Ebay Pens
-532nm 250mw Jet Laser PL-C
-532nm O-like Cute 150mW

-Z-Bolt 635nm ~5mw

Website:
Udanis.com
udanis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2010, 09:17 PM #5
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
sinisterchopper sinisterchopper is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Blue laser project.. Help??

Here are all the specs I could find on the Scorpion FX:

Coverage angle: 99
Light source: 532nm/30mW green laser diode, 650nm/80mW red laser diode
Power and current: 120V, 60Hz: 14W, 0.1A operating, 0.4A inrush

This is info on the Photon Generator:
1 x 4.9mW Green Laser
Diode Part No. 4.9mW
CLASS 3R LASER PRODUCT
5.0 mW max CW Diode 532 nm
IEC/EN 60825-1, ed 1.2

Info on the Chinese junk

Class B
Power:AC power supply Input AC 110-240V,50-60HZ,output 5.0V,1.5A.
Laser generator:Green:wavelength 532nm,power 50mW,Red:wavelength 650nm,power 100mW.



Is any of this helpful?
sinisterchopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2010, 09:23 PM #6
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 1,132
Rep Power: 43
udanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond repute
udanis udanis is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 1,132
Rep Power: 43
udanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Blue laser project.. Help??

Yeah that has the laser power listed. The scorpion fx has a 30mw green laser and a 80mw red guy. You could swap red to blue/purple fairly easily, but like i said before there isn't much that you can do with the green.

The photon generator is green so I would try to covert it to red. It would probably be a good bit of work.

And the third guy has a 50mw green laser and a 100mw red lasers.

With the reds you might be able to convert them to a 405nm (blu-ray produces a purple color) or if your drivers can go that high you might be able to go to a 445nm (it is a lot closer to blue, the only thing that looks "bluer" is 473nm, but that is dpss so you can't use it)

Hope this helps a little.


Quote:
Originally Posted by sinisterchopper View Post
Here are all the specs I could find on the Scorpion FX:

Coverage angle: 99
Light source: 532nm/30mW green laser diode, 650nm/80mW red laser diode
Power and current: 120V, 60Hz: 14W, 0.1A operating, 0.4A inrush

This is info on the Photon Generator:
1 x 4.9mW Green Laser
Diode Part No. 4.9mW
CLASS 3R LASER PRODUCT
5.0 mW max CW Diode 532 nm
IEC/EN 60825-1, ed 1.2

Info on the Chinese junk

Class B
Power:AC power supply Input AC 110-240V,50-60HZ,output 5.0V,1.5A.
Laser generator:Green:wavelength 532nm,power 50mW,Red:wavelength 650nm,power 100mW.



Is any of this helpful?
__________________
Lasers:
-405nm Ebay Pens
-532nm 250mw Jet Laser PL-C
-532nm O-like Cute 150mW

-Z-Bolt 635nm ~5mw

Website:
Udanis.com
udanis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2010, 11:48 PM #7
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
sinisterchopper sinisterchopper is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Blue laser project.. Help??

Thanks for the info Udanis, I'm learning something already I wasn't aware that the green lasers are really UV lasers. I would really like to use either the Scorpion or the Photon because they are both DMX controlable and move very well to the music, the Chinese one is pretty corny. I would also be willing to add a complete blue laser if possible in addition to the red and or green rather than changing just the diode.
Like I said I don't know much about lasers so sorry if any of this is foolish, I'll provide as much info as I can see.

I opened up all three of the lasers and one by one here is what I can see:

The Scorpion FX appears as if it has a red laser that is self contained and only requires power (I lent out my multimeter so I cant check the voltage now, I'll get back to you on that) the sticker on that on only says 650nm Class IIIB. The green laser also appears self contained with a small fan attached to the back, this one says 532nm Class IIIB 12v however it has 3 positive and 3 negative wires going into the module, not sure why.

The Photon Generator also appears to have a self contained green laser though it is much smaller than the scorpion's and has no fan, this one has only a positive and negative wire and a sticker that says >10.00mW DC5V Class 3R.. seems simple enough.

And finally the cheapo has a very small Red module (about 1/2" x 3/4") with a positive and negative wire, and also a very small (about 1/2" x 1 1/2") green module that looks like it has the (driver?) sticking out of the back with only one positive and one negative wire, not sure on the voltage but it's worth it to mention that the entire unit is powered by only 5 volts DC via a wall transformer. No markings on anything other than what they claim on their packaging (which I have a hard time beliving) Green 532nm,50mW, Red 650nm, 100mW.

So is it possible to either,
(A) remove any these modules and drop in a blue one of the same voltage?
(B) add a blue module as well as the red and or green, by just jumping some wires of the appropriate voltage over?

And if so where could I find a reasonably priced module or kit that I could assembly and put in?

Sorry for all the questions! I REALLY want a blue laser in my light show but I can't afford to buy one ready to go and I also would hate to ruin the two nice ones I already have.

Thanks so much for any help!!
sinisterchopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-12-2010, 11:57 PM #8
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 1,132
Rep Power: 43
udanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond repute
udanis udanis is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 1,132
Rep Power: 43
udanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Blue laser project.. Help??

Green lasers start from ir :P Blu-Ray 405nm laser are close to UV :P Learning more.

I have been happy with the products Ive received from hightechdealz.com modwerx is also highly recommend on this board. The biggest thing is the current that is going to the diodes. Generally the more current the more bight the laser is (the depends on the diode too) Lets say the circuit board is pumping 50mA into one of the red lasers. If you try and lets say attach one of the oh-so poplar blue 445nm diodes to it it wont light up because you need to go past the threshold current of the diode. Your going to have to measure the out put of the circuit board (look up dummy load) and attach that in place of the red diode and measure the current. I personally wouldn't mess with the green stuff, but a lot of red diodes and blue diodes are the same size.



Quote:
Originally Posted by sinisterchopper View Post
Thanks for the info Udanis, I'm learning something already I wasn't aware that the green lasers are really UV lasers. I would really like to use either the Scorpion or the Photon because they are both DMX controlable and move very well to the music, the Chinese one is pretty corny. I would also be willing to add a complete blue laser if possible in addition to the red and or green rather than changing just the diode.
Like I said I don't know much about lasers so sorry if any of this is foolish, I'll provide as much info as I can see.

I opened up all three of the lasers and one by one here is what I can see:

The Scorpion FX appears as if it has a red laser that is self contained and only requires power (I lent out my multimeter so I cant check the voltage now, I'll get back to you on that) the sticker on that on only says 650nm Class IIIB. The green laser also appears self contained with a small fan attached to the back, this one says 532nm Class IIIB 12v however it has 3 positive and 3 negative wires going into the module, not sure why.

The Photon Generator also appears to have a self contained green laser though it is much smaller than the scorpion's and has no fan, this one has only a positive and negative wire and a sticker that says >10.00mW DC5V Class 3R.. seems simple enough.

And finally the cheapo has a very small Red module (about 1/2" x 3/4") with a positive and negative wire, and also a very small (about 1/2" x 1 1/2") green module that looks like it has the (driver?) sticking out of the back with only one positive and one negative wire, not sure on the voltage but it's worth it to mention that the entire unit is powered by only 5 volts DC via a wall transformer. No markings on anything other than what they claim on their packaging (which I have a hard time beliving) Green 532nm,50mW, Red 650nm, 100mW.

So is it possible to either,
(A) remove any these modules and drop in a blue one of the same voltage?
(B) add a blue module as well as the red and or green, by just jumping some wires of the appropriate voltage over?

And if so where could I find a reasonably priced module or kit that I could assembly and put in?

Sorry for all the questions! I REALLY want a blue laser in my light show but I can't afford to buy one ready to go and I also would hate to ruin the two nice ones I already have.

Thanks so much for any help!!
__________________
Lasers:
-405nm Ebay Pens
-532nm 250mw Jet Laser PL-C
-532nm O-like Cute 150mW

-Z-Bolt 635nm ~5mw

Website:
Udanis.com
udanis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2010, 12:17 AM #9
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
sinisterchopper sinisterchopper is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Blue laser project.. Help??

Here are the pics
Attached Thumbnails
Blue laser project.. Help??-hkgk.jpg   Blue laser project.. Help??-jlghlj.jpg   Blue laser project.. Help??-photo-2.jpg   Blue laser project.. Help??-photo-3.jpg  
sinisterchopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2010, 12:24 AM #10
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 1,132
Rep Power: 43
udanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond repute
udanis udanis is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 1,132
Rep Power: 43
udanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Blue laser project.. Help??

Quote:
Originally Posted by sinisterchopper View Post
Here are the pics
I've never seen the insides of one of those before....cool stuff

Usually diodes are very small like around 1/4" and those are pressed into housing to displace heat, those are the black boxes in the first picture. Generally the diodes are hard to remove with out damaging them. I really think the next thing you should do is build/buy a dummy circuit and test the output of the circuit board. There are a bunch of posts and topics on the forum covering that. One you have that you can decide if it is possible and what diode to use.
__________________
Lasers:
-405nm Ebay Pens
-532nm 250mw Jet Laser PL-C
-532nm O-like Cute 150mW

-Z-Bolt 635nm ~5mw

Website:
Udanis.com
udanis is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2010, 12:25 AM #11
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
sinisterchopper sinisterchopper is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Blue laser project.. Help??

Quote:
Green lasers start from ir :P Blu-Ray 405nm laser are close to UV :P Learning more.
Oops.. Lol!! I meant "ir" been playing around with blacklights to much lately getting ready for halloween.. LOL!
sinisterchopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2010, 12:32 AM #12
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
sinisterchopper sinisterchopper is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Ct. USA
Posts: 11
Rep Power: 0
sinisterchopper is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Blue laser project.. Help??

Quote:
Originally Posted by udanis View Post
I've never seen the insides of one of those before....cool stuff

Usually diodes are very small like around 1/4" and those are pressed into housing to displace heat, those are the black boxes in the first picture. Generally the diodes are hard to remove with out damaging them. I really think the next thing you should do is build/buy a dummy circuit and test the output of the circuit board. There are a bunch of posts and topics on the forum covering that. One you have that you can decide if it is possible and what diode to use.
Awesome I'll look into that and post back here.. You've been a ton of help, thanks a bunch!
sinisterchopper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-13-2010, 12:34 AM #13
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 1,132
Rep Power: 43
udanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond repute
udanis udanis is offline
Class 3R Laser
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: PA
Posts: 1,132
Rep Power: 43
udanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond reputeudanis has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Blue laser project.. Help??

Quote:
Originally Posted by sinisterchopper View Post
Awesome I'll look into that and post back here.. You've been a ton of help, thanks a bunch!
No problem.
__________________
Lasers:
-405nm Ebay Pens
-532nm 250mw Jet Laser PL-C
-532nm O-like Cute 150mW

-Z-Bolt 635nm ~5mw

Website:
Udanis.com
udanis is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply





Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On











Loading








Green Laser Pointers by Category Blue Laser Pointers by Category Red Laser Pointers by Category
Yellow Laser Pointers by Category Violet Laser Pointers by Category Orange Laser Pointers by Category
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes






Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use


 


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:25 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use
Copyright (C) 2017 Laser Pointer Forums, LLC