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Guys, for what it's worth, I spoke with the auction house today when they called to process my payment, and I felt pretty ok about this transaction afterwards.

Chris brought the items to them, and they're on the up and up. In my mind, there are really two concerns in general that I've read here:

1) That Chris is slow to ship, and/or might not ship at all.
- This concern is entirely mitigated in my mind, by the use of an intermediary

2) That the items may not be as described.
- Considering that these items were all pretty much described as being untested and/or in an unknown state, it's really up to the BUYER to mitigate this risk as much or as little as they want. As long as you don't bid more than you'd be willing to loose if the items you're bidding on turn out to hit the low end of that risk threshold, then you're safe. In my case, my bids are basically worth it if even 2 or 3% of what I purchased work. I know there's a lot of skepticism about these items - and perhaps rightly so - but I would have to imagine they'll exceed the 2 or 3% success rate. If they don't, I'll still be bummed out, even though it was my risk to take - but I won't have anyone but MYSELF to blame.

So, in my mind, evaluate the risks, bid accordingly, take responsibility for your actions as a buyer - and all will be well. That's my idea at least


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And I'd like to reiterate something I said earlier in the thread -

I think it is the responsibility of everyone who purchased something at this auction (myself included) to be honest about the source if they ever decide to re-sell any of this stuff. I would recommend not doing so in the first place. But if someone decides they want to, I think it is crucial that it be made very clear where the items came from.

I hope nobody was approaching these items from the perspective of trying to make a quick buck by "recycling" the working parts back into this community at a higher price. I would hope that anyone aware of this thread and this auction would point out if some of this stuff seems to "re-appear" in sale threads on this forum. I hope that doesn't turn out to be the case in the first place.
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If the items work as described when you sell them...
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Because I think there's some concern over quality as it relates to their likely lifetime. I could be wrong, but lower quality diodes may work initially, but have less longevity. No?
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If the items work as described when you sell them...
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I never (or very rarely) sell anything i buy. I purchase for myself alone. However, I agree, if they work, they work.

Sam warned me about the hene tubes I bought from him, the same way. Their was no warranty on them. I understand that and others should also on some items.

I have bought a couple lasers from reputable buyers on here that failed after way too short a time. I asked about them and was basically told "too bad, your problem."

Chris can't see the future and some items WILL fail. And someone WILL complain. But, if it works when he submitted them that's all he can do, they are used! If it's dead when it arrives, that is one thing. If it dies a day later, that's an entirely different scenario.

I think that once it's in your hands you assume responsibility and care for it. Use or sell as you see fit!
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I hope nobody was approaching these items from the perspective of trying to make a quick buck by "recycling" the working parts back into this community at a higher price. I would hope that anyone aware of this thread and this auction would point out if some of this stuff seems to "re-appear" in sale threads on this forum. I hope that doesn't turn out to be the case in the first place.
Why would this be a problem? Somebody then would have taken the risk of a broken product and now can sell a tested product. The added security would be worth something. And that somebody may accept paypal. I don't have a credit card, and I've missed some nice stuff.
If anyone here got the Nd:YAG mirror lot(s), I'm interested in a few mirrors.

Will the stuff that didn't got sold be offered again? Then I can find somebody to get the coherent compass power supply lot and the laser precision energy meter for me.
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I'm with Bluefan on this: why is this a problem? It is the responsibility of the seller to back up his or her claims, not provide a paper trail to the original seller. Furthermore, if you strongly believe in this concept, why are you not outraged that heruursciences is effectively "recycling" these goods in the same manner--purchasing the equipment and parts from fire-sales surplus auctions of defunct businesses, and reselling it on forums, auctions, etc.

Sellers are also entitled to make a "quick buck" turning around the goods they buy. After all, someone could purchase the entire lot for a bargain, and then make money selling the individual parts. It doesn't matter if the original source was from this auction, the original source, or whomever. It is now the responsibility of the seller to back up his or her claims.
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i think if you buy these diodes from chris, you have the right to resell them. if you want to be known as a trusted seller you will test each and every diode you ship. if you want to have a shady reputation then sell with out testing. remember that here at lpf we share everything, even pm's. so you wont get away with any thing for long. and if you send out a tested good diode, it is nobodies business where it came from. you are the seller now. you take responsibility.

and my post isn't directed at anybody in particular. just a scenario...

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Has anyone here actually heard from the shipper yet.... ?

It was supposed to be monday, it's not wednesday, no word. I'm fairly certain the auction house has charged our CCs. In terms of the shipper contacting me to arrange the method of shipping I'd like, nothing.
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Looks like it already hit eBay even though the lots are going to be shipped today.. NICE...

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Can you address my concern?

Why no word from the shipper five days after payment?
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Why no word from the shipper five days after payment?

I got an email last night from the shipper. They said that it was sent to everyone who won a bid.

Also, just got a phone call from Sharon, she is packaging my stuff tonight. She said I should have a bill by Saturday for shipping. Hope the yellow hene makes it ok!

Has anyone else who won a bid, heard anything?
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I'm curious to see how much they ask for shipping too ..... there was some interesting items in the auction, but cause i use a preload card, i had to know anticipately them, so this time i had no chance to bid anything ..... maybe, knowing the shipping fees, also indicatively, the next time i can place some offers too.

At the ones that won something: if you don't matter, when you receive your billings, can please post indicatively the items weight and related shipping fees ? (no need to specify what you have won, just something like "paid xx$ shipping fees for an approximatively xxKg item shipping in or out USA ..... especially if out USA) - Thanks.
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They are using USPS (correct me if I'm wrong). You can simply go HERE and calculate international shipping.
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They are using USPS (correct me if I'm wrong). You can simply go HERE and calculate international shipping.
IF they use USPS, yes, but i also don't know how they ship items (i mean, envelopes, boxes, flat rate, etc), so i can only estimate ..... according to that site, shipping with envelopes may require around 30$ in the better cases (but international envelopes not all the times survive to our postal offices gorillaz), or around 60$ for a box, but may be also more ..... and, more important, USPS site cannot say me what they charge for "packaging/handling", if they do that ..... and, last but not least, peoples that receive items, can tell you also if the shipper managed them bad or good (i mean, is different if you receive something barely throwed in a bubble envelope without additional protection, or properly packed and protected ..... also this is a good thing to know).

Having a feedback from peoples that already had their packages delivered, is better (if possible, ofcourse )
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