47" LCD 1080p $675!!!

If I didn't just buy one for a couple hundred more than that price I would be buying this one.

47" Westinghouse LVM-47w1 1080p DVI HD Ready LCD Monitor (Black) - Connect an External HDTV Tuner for Use as a TV! Westinghouse LVM-47W1

It looks like $499

yobresal said:

If I didn't just buy one for a couple hundred more than that price

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Oh man that freaking SUCKS, I hate it when that happens...

You buy something to walk one block and see the same product in another shop at 10% of the price you paid or less.

DOUBLE POST!

samsomiler said:

It looks like $499

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He included shipping fees

Nice, only 60hz though

It's LCD so the Hertz don't matter.

Jon

? Yeah they definately do. 120 hertz allows for 3d, and I think if I'm gaming (not saying I would on a TV) I would want 120fps vs 60.

Have you seen 60fps vs 120fps comparisons? 120 looks way nicer

I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing. CRT monitors have a refresh rate that is usually 60Hz and with a better video card and a capable monitor you can get even higher refresh rates up to 120Hz. 60hz is an NTSC standard for Televisions in the U.S. and is the reason why you see the flicker on televisions. The higher the refresh rate the faster the screen is painted and that's why anything above 60Hz looks more stable and causes less eyestrain. LCD's don't suffer from this limitation because they don't draw the image on the screen like a traditional CRT and therefore don't need a refresh.

FPS is not the same as Hz and I agree that higher FPS looks nicer and runs better but any LCD will be able to handle 120fps as long as the video card can handle the output.

Jon

Actually, on TV, you use an interleaved refresh, so you get only 30fps - first every even line is drawn and then every odd; and as the last line is drawn for each frame, the top half has already faded out again. This top-down drawing is more responsible for the TV flicker than the refresh rate itself.

LCDs refresh at 60Hz. So actually higher fps rates are pointless. For lower fps rates, only 30 and 20 fps make sense (simple divisors of 60). Anything else will just cause a tiny "stutter". With 40fps and 60Hz for example, you'd get twice an identical frame, followed once by a new one, then twice the following one, then once the next one, etc.

Six things you need to know about 120Hz LCD TVs - Fully Equipped - CNET Reviews
and yes...LCD tvs do have a refresh rate.

LoL I have to chime in on this one. I happen to know wayyyy more about televisions and home theater than ill ever know about lasers.


First off, 120hz will make a difference over 60hz on an LCD television, however its important to realize that the tv's video processor is just processing the image to 120hz. Thus why samsungs and tv's alike have adjustable settings for the enhanced motion. Most lcd's with 120hz will always look better compared to a standard LCD, partly because the 120hz is featured on the higher models in that particular lineup. Which most of the time include glossy screens which will be a big help to the overall image. However you can definitely notice the fake looking or overly smoothed out image. To me it doesn't look right but everyone is different. I actually sold my Sony 40" XBR (with 120hz), and purchased a 720p Pioneer Kuro Plasma. Some thought I was nuts but the picture from all aspects is way better. I dont want to hear the gaming thing and burn in factor because it simply doesn't exist no matter how long I game. I have only seen cases of plasma burn in when neglagence is at play. Ex. You leave your dvd running at the menu screen for 8 hours, Of course this will burn in.

Now take this into consideration. Instead of spending 675$ on a 47" Westinghouse or whatever other el-cheapo tv. Save up a measly 200$ more and go get yourself a panasonic, ( poor mans Pioneer ) and have the following.


Deep Dark Blacks ( Contrast = Most Important aspect of picture.)

excellent motion ( no need to have 120hz processing the plasma technology renders motion better as a technology.)

brilliant unfaded color ( In part to a glossy or non matte finish screen )

and of course your hd res of 720p or 1080p

If your at a viewing distance of 8 - 9 + ft. You will not notice a difference between 720p and 1080p. With either blu-ray or 720p hd content.

The thing is people feel like they have to have 1080p, and you don't. Resolution is like the 5th most important characteristic of a television. Do your research.. The funny thing is I see all over this forum people talking about the quality of different diodes, drivers, companies, etc. But then go out and buy a Westinghouse 47". Just because you can tell your friends and co workers you own a fancy pants 1080p tv does not mean anything.

AVSFORUM.COM is an excellent place to do research, and I suggest you do before you buy a new TV. You would be suprised at what another 200$ can buy you in terms of overall enjoyment and longevity.

Sorry to go off a little bit, but Ive dealt with this for years. If you have lighting issues, and I mean too much light or a room full of windows with no blinds, go with a matte finish LCD. Even buy your westy if you want. If lighting is not an issue, look into the Panasonics, and If you want the best go for a Pioneer or Pioneer Elite, you will be stunned.

Even wicked lasers vs Opto or CNI isnt a good enough comparison to the quality of a Pioneer vs a Westinghouse LCD LOL.

-Greg


I took a couple pics using a Pioneer Benchmark testing Blu-Ray I acquired from a Pioneer Rep. I dont have my tripod nor am I much of a photographer. Just thought Id put these up to show how good black levels can be on these tv's.