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Helios · Jan 11, 2011

the good news is these #100 are dirt cheap!

Also just so you know...mentioning the origin of the 445nm diodes is widely considered a no no on this forum. Its an easy mistake but I would advise editing your post to not include mention of that electronics brand.

treetrimmerguy1977 · Jan 11, 2011

Helios said:
the good news is these #100 are dirt cheap!.

oops, thanks for the heads up=)

LtKernelPanic · Jan 11, 2011

Wow. I swore I wasn't going to buy one of those #100s but after seeing the numbers posted so far I may have to. If I do I may have to snag a couple of those 3v tenergy batteries you guys keep mentioning. I suspect the "Juice" brand that came with my 445 aren't the best. Although when I measured it against a fully charged AW I got the same results (within a mw or so) so maybe it is okay. Too bad I need to get the parts to finish my 12x 405 and my 1+W 445 before I can even consider one of these. Now I really wish there was a way to make these focusable. Although I just had an idea....

Helios · Jan 11, 2011

treetrimmerguy1977 said:
oops, thanks for the heads up=)

no problem its an easy mistake but an important one to fix for several reasons discussed elsewhere. We just refer to them as 445nm diodes generally.:beer:

treetrimmerguy1977 · Jan 11, 2011

LtKernelPanic said:
Wow. I swore I wasn't going to buy one of those #100s but after seeing the numbers posted so far I may have to. If I do I may have to snag a couple of those 3v tenergy batteries you guys keep mentioning.

Mine is putting out a ton more with a 3.6v than the 3.v panasonic it came with.

LtKernelPanic · Jan 11, 2011

Yeah while the 3v panasonic is a good battery it sucks for these. With rechargeable LiiOns the x.y voltage is basically the dead voltage. A fully charged 3v should be around 3.6v and a 3.6/3.7v should be around 4.2v. I think the 3.2v LiPOs are 3.6v at full charge too. Could be wrong though since I've never had any of that type.

treetrimmerguy1977 · Jan 11, 2011

LtKernelPanic said:
Yeah while the 3v panasonic is a good battery it sucks for these. With rechargeable LiiOns the x.y voltage is basically the dead voltage. A fully charged 3v should be around 3.6v and a 3.6/3.7v should be around 4.2v. I think the 3.2v LiPOs are 3.6v at full charge too. Could be wrong though since I've never had any of that type.

That's cool. Ok, I have a ultrafire protected 3.6v 880mAh. I wonder how low the voltage would have to drop for the battery's circuit to cut out the power completely? I guess I could look it up myself, but if you already have a rough idea, it would be nice.

Helios · Jan 11, 2011

treetrimmerguy1977 said:
That's cool. Ok, I have a ultrafire protected 3.6v 880mAh. I wonder how low the voltage would have to drop for the battery's circuit to cut out the power completely? I guess I could look it up myself, but if you already have a rough idea, it would be nice.

depends on the driver. Once the voltage drops below the threshold of the driver it will shut off.

treetrimmerguy1977 · Jan 11, 2011

Helios said:
depends on the driver. Once the voltage drops below the threshold of the driver it will shut off.

Yep, that's true, but I'm just curious how low the voltage has to drop before the driver shuts off the battery. The reason I'm curious is, should I expect the laser to stay at a pretty high power then shut off? (while still at a decent power level) or should I use the laser for a little bit at a time, then swap out for a freshly charged one. Should I allow the battery to drain to the point that the battery's "circuit breaker" shuts it down? or would the lasers milliwatts be so low at that point that I would have changed batteries a long time ago?

btw, this protected battery also say on it no "memory effect" That tells me It shouldn't matter how far it's been discharged when I plug it back into the charger.
I'm still wondering though if my laser is going to have pretty high power when the protected battery discharge protection kicks in.

Long question short, how often should I swap out the batteries with these protected cells?

treetrimmerguy1977 · Jan 11, 2011

Ok, I think I found a rough answer on this link

The Anatomy of a Protected Battery

I know that in this link they are referring to an 18650, but it gives me a rough idea that the battery would be waaaaay down in voltage before the discharge protection turns it off.

Sorry to bother you guys with all of this =)

Helios · Jan 11, 2011

The quickest way to kill a li-ion is to discharge it all the way. Whether protected cells will stop this I am unsure as I never dare to fully drain mine. Ive had good luck just using them for awhile and then using a multimeter to test the drop making sure to always keep them topped off.

treetrimmerguy1977 · Jan 11, 2011

Helios said:
The quickest way to kill a li-ion is to discharge it all the way. Whether protected cells will stop this I am unsure as I never dare to fully drain mine. Ive had good luck just using them for awhile and then using a multimeter to test the drop making sure to always keep them topped off.

Thanks, this was the answer I was looking for.

Bobby · Jan 11, 2011

treetrimmerguy1977 said:
Ok, I think I found a rough answer on this link

The Anatomy of a Protected Battery

I know that in this link they are referring to an 18650, but it gives me a rough idea that the battery would be waaaaay down in voltage before the discharge protection turns it off.

Sorry to bother you guys with all of this =)

Good link!

FYI, the little #100 is too fun -- we spent most of last night with it aimed at a black cashew-can lid and watching the melt-reflection on the ceiling; who needs TV! It ran for ~5 mins per run before starting to dim, and never really got noticeably hot.

sampson · Jan 11, 2011

I got in touch with Item Quick Ship and I have awesome news:

He said that he would sell the 100mw Super Beast for $25 to LPF members (you'll need to contact him directly).

AND

He WILL ship to Canada for FREE from China or for $12 extra via USPS Priority Mail from the USA. Personally I'd pay the $12 and get it shipped from USA so that it doesn't take 4-8 weeks to arrive from China.

He told me to share his contact info with interested members. It wasn't clear if he wanted me to share this info publicly on the forum so for now just PM me for his contact info. I will get clarification on this and/or see if I can get him to introduce himself in the "Companies" section that way people don't have to PM me and wait.

Also, forgive the 'double post' (I posted this over in the Super Beast 005 review, also).. I just want everyone to know about the $25 offer and shipping to Canada.

elite ares · Jan 11, 2011

sampson said:
He said that he would sell the 100mw Super Beast for $25 to LPF members (you'll need to contact him directly).

Darn, I just ordered one for $28. Oh well, still a bargain! Thanks for getting the forum deal though.

On another note, I've been in contact with emall2011 and he's interested in getting a LPM so he can test the lasers he sells on eekbay. His 532s are overspec too. See this thread for an output plot.

sampson · Jan 11, 2011

Helios said:
The quickest way to kill a li-ion is to discharge it all the way. Whether protected cells will stop this I am unsure as I never dare to fully drain mine. Ive had good luck just using them for awhile and then using a multimeter to test the drop making sure to always keep them topped off.

elite ares said:
Darn, I just ordered one for $28. Oh well, still a bargain! Thanks for getting the forum deal though.

On another note, I've been in contact with emall2011 and he's interested in getting a LPM so he can test the lasers he sells on eekbay. His 532s are overspec too. See this thread for an output plot.

Nice job on that output plot. Any chance of seeing that for the Super Beast when you get it? :beer:

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