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Yea, been working with frequency and wavelength most of my carrier as a RF tech/engineer, but for lasers we don't use frequency, we use wavelength. The number is too long if using frequency when talking about different colors of light.


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I had a feeling that was why, as I know you deal with RF very frequently. That explains it.
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Guys, just one more information to add - if you think about the frequency of light, it is better option (however a bit inconvenient compared to nm) - just because its relevance to photon energy. If you consider wavelength, you have to specify in which medium the EM radiation is moving - the speed of light depends on it and therefore wavelength as well - assuming no change in frequency. As conclusion - the wavelength in vacuum would be slightly longer than in air and also from material of your eye, but you would not notice it because you are looking via your eye and also air layer has to be between it and some other environment - just try to focus in water without goggles - impossible.
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I'm certain how far a laser will go depends entirely how good ones throwing arm is. I think it's safe to say the typical pen style laser would travel farther do to lesser mass than the Hercules style laser for comparison. If anyone asks this question again, I will direct them to this post.

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Aha, another variable, whether viewing in the dark or not, the peak wavelength shifts down to a slightly longer wavelength for scotopic vision, when your eyes have adjusted to the darkness. That would shift the peak sensitivity down and make the red wavelengths a bit more sensitive to our eyes, but the blue worse. I forgot about this, question is, when viewing a powerful laser beam in the dark, does it shift your vision out of scotopic?
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Scotopic sensitivity only applies to ambient natural lighting. There is no red light available under natural scotopic ambient conditions. A comparison of natural light vs. articial is not applicable because the number of photons entering the eyes is much less than would enter ones eyes from a red light source. If comparing two sources of artificial light blue and red equidistant from the peak of 555nm the one which appears brighter depends on the output. If the outputs are equal they will be equally bright. There is a chart at Sam's Laser FAQ showing the relative brightness at various wavelenghts.
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I use it occasionally to do quick checks, but I do believe it to be far too harsh on the blue however.
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Well, that makes sense, my own observations confirm that.
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Yea, been working with frequency and wavelength most of my carrier as a RF tech/engineer, but for lasers we don't use frequency, we use wavelength. The number is too long if using frequency when talking about different colors of light.
IDK, as the light from a 532nm laser is actually 563.5 THz. Not really such a big number as 532nm is as much a small number.
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If you use THz, that makes it easy, but because I'm an RF technician, I am used to seeing the number expressed to at least the last KHz, which really is a gross number for our use in that spectrum, RF frequencies are often expressed to the cycle for equipment calibrations. That said, it would be silly to express the frequency of light down to the last cycle or Hertz, or even MHz, we don't use it that way.
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