3 cheap 200mw laserPEN at FOCALprice.WHAT i shoud buy?

hello.. i only have 2 30mw green laser.. but i would have a more powerfull laser. in the future i will buy one of the best powered laser PEN..(pen...pecause i can bring it with me everywhere...and i think HANDHELD lasers are too big to use often) from optotronics or other trusted laser company ( if skylasers.net will underprice the 150mw version of their laser.. i will buy ot.. thay told me that for free they could Change the lense and have a bigger beam diameter of about 2mm but with a 0.5 mrad!!!wow).

but now... for the moment i would try to have a more than 30mw laser.....i am interested about to have 100mw.. or more.. for the cheapest price .

putting OUT....o-like and rayfoss... we have only dealextreme,focalprice and qualitychinagoods for have lowprice lasers.... is it right?
dealextreme 200mw pen is at 69$..a bit too high!!! focalprice have 3 good priced NOMINAL 200mw....the first was the initial 74$ that someone received to be 140mw!!!!good!( i don't remember the member name).then.. this pen.. goest at 44$.

now.. focalprice has 3 laser
1-- 200mW Green Beam Laser Pointer (Silver) $38.65 - Free Shipping sold at $ 38.65 (new adeed,new body style)
2-- 200mW Green Beam Laser Pointer (Silver) $41.07 - Free Shipping sold at $ 41.07
3-- 200mW 532nm Green Laser Pointer (Black) $44.7 - Free Shipping

i hope that someone can help us to decide

realista said:

now.. focalprice has 3 laser
1-- 200mW Green Beam Laser Pointer (Silver) $38.65 - Free Shipping sold at $ 38.65 (new adeed,new body style)
2-- 200mW Green Beam Laser Pointer (Silver) $41.07 - Free Shipping sold at $ 41.07
3-- 200mW 532nm Green Laser Pointer (Black) $44.7 - Free Shipping

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I own the last one of those. LP041B. It can light matches if used with UltraFire 3.6V battery. But it suffers from a huge dot on close up distances. It's not even a round dot. It's more of oval.

I would not recommending that one nor the LP121S.

The LP131S is new. But first impression tells me this is a 50mW-ish at the most.

Mikael

mmh---but with 3.6 volt it is about 100mw... not bad. however focalprice is a strange place to get lasers ahaha.. firtsly a 44$..then a 41..then a 38. the first impression is not so important. what to you see to say 50mw? the case? it is a new style case.. never seen by me other people reviewed your same laser pen.. and others can light match without use a 3.6 v battery so... i think that this laser is "generally" between 80/120 mw... to light matches... or am i wrong? the black case looks to be similatr to olike.. and optotronics...the laser of 41% seems like the ledshoppa(half grey half black)..and the first..XD ehehhee

however... can you tell me how is the beam divergence and diameter of your laser?i think that also if it is oval..it is a LITTLE oval..with little diameter... because it light a match

please make a review if you have this laser XD we should help us.. all member.... if someone buy something...READ THIS: PLEASE REVIEW ( i speak to everyone.. not only you )

realista said:

mmh---but with 3.6 volt it is about 100mw... not bad. however focalprice is a strange place to get lasers ahaha.. firtsly a 44$..then a 41..then a 38. the first impression is not so important. what to you see to say 50mw? the case? it is a new style case.. never seen by me other people reviewed your same laser pen.. and others can light match without use a 3.6 v battery so... i think that this laser is "generally" between 80/120 mw... to light matches... or am i wrong? the black case looks to be similatr to olike.. and optotronics...the laser of 41% seems like the ledshoppa(half grey half black)..and the first..XD ehehhee

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My "True" 100 from DX (they are quite on spec, aren't they?) could not light matches. The matches would get very warm. But the focus on those DX and these FP are different. (which I will come back in the next quote section)

The reason for 50mW is just a hunch. The casings looks a lot like the slim carbon/light metal bodies that buyincoins.com use for some of their pointers (don't order at their web site yet. they have not yet set up all stuff. They sell on ebay, but I *really* like their 5-50mW series of this type! Tight and nice!).

By all means take a chance on it. But I think that this casing is not sufficient for cooling the unit I am tempted myself. But had wickedly bad experiences with FP's delivered lasers lately.

realista said:

however... can you tell me how is the beam divergence and diameter of your laser?i think that also if it is oval..it is a LITTLE oval..with little diameter... because it light a match

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It is slightly oval. Yes. Why does this make a difference to burning properties? Thought this was mainly an issue of the lens focus. Which brings me to the next part:

Up close the dot is REALLY small. Like for instance on close distance lighting a match. Shining it on the wall that is located 6m away the size is surely about 5-8cm (oval shape) in diameter. This would mean 80mm in 6m, a Mrad of 13 (Mrad is diameter millimeters per meter growth of dot size, right?).

It may be a good and even necessary property for burning. But I prefer something tight and nice beam.

realista said:

please make a review if you have this laser XD we should help us.. all member.... if someone buy something...READ THIS: PLEASE REVIEW ( i speak to everyone.. not only you )

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Hehe. The main reason for not doing it is because others have. Perhaps I should anyhow.

Mikael

Get the low beam divergence that has some reasonable power. When the beam stays narrow, it is so beautiful to view at night.

millirad said:

Get the low beam divergence that has some reasonable power. When the beam stays narrow, it is so beautiful to view at night.

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I don't think that was in the description in any of them... I would probably discourage all of the above. Maybe take a chance on the silver just for the price tag.

hei.. focaplprice told me that their better laser is the 44$ one... ( mhh the one that cost more.... mmmhh).

do you trust it?. i have a 5$ of credit ....in focalprice site because e ireceived a low powered bottle shape laser... but it should be perfect to use the 5$ cretid with the 38$ laser=33 dollars..

the 41$ seems to be the same laser of hte 44....with a grey battery holder mmm i think i wil lwait for 1 or 2 reviews of the 38$ laser........... i would this laser NOT ONLY for the lower price.. but for change the USUAL aspect of these clone newwish body style....laser pointer.

realista said:

hei.. focaplprice told me that their better laser is the 44$ one... ( mhh the one that cost more.... mmmhh).

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I managed to light matches with that model with a 3.6V battery. It however has a horrible beam. The dot size on even low distances is huge.

It's shape is more oval than round.

I would discourage.

Mikael

ok..thanks for the information but i don't tink that EVERY unit will be like your there ale lucked and mad unit of all laser pointers.... probably you got a bad one focused laser... however.. how do you think that you have in mw to light a match?... i think you reach about 80/100mw. can you light the match very fast and with easy?. if yes.. you have for sure a >100mw...

mmh.. i iwll wait for the first review of the 38$ laser.. hoping that the buyer will tell if the laser burn matches. if yes.. i will buy it. i think that focal price for first buyers.. should get the best units...

realista said:

ok..thanks for the information but i don't tink that EVERY unit will be like your there ale lucked and mad unit of all laser pointers.... probably you got a bad one focused laser... however.. how do you think that you have in mw to light a match?... i think you reach about 80/100mw. can you light the match very fast and with easy?. if yes.. you have for sure a >100mw...

mmh.. i iwll wait for the first review of the 38$ laser.. hoping that the buyer will tell if the laser burn matches. if yes.. i will buy it. i think that focal price for first buyers.. should get the best units...

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I know from experience that my DX true 100mW (which has a very nice and tight beam!) can NOT light matches. Not sure if it reaches the 100 mark in reality.

It is not by any means easy. It requires a steady hand and precision. Due to the lens focus the best result is given if pointed from a ~15-20cm distance.

And I have ordered two of these units. Both had bad focus. I have a friend who has one. His has a bad focus aswell

I've ordered one of those 200mW silvers for a customer here. I'll probably do a quick review of it on 2x 1.5v batteries.

Mikael

i update: i bought the 38$ laser pen but now i don't understand how to get the 5$ credit refund.. of my previous purchase(it was an underpowered laser). i payed FULL price now. now i wait for the focalprice assistant what to do to pay 38.65-5=33.65. i think thay will tell me to add an item of about 5$..but i don't want this. i want the refund XD

HOWEVER......i asked them what is betetr between the 41$ laser or the 38. i had A LOT of messages with them.... i explained i don't wait a true 200 because it is IMPOSSIBLE.... i just told them i would an OVER 100mw laser they wrote it:

"Dear customer,
Thank you very much for your message.
we do not say which is better. both item can work well.
we suggest LP131S, due to it is in stock, and it to be over 100mw.
we will tst all item before shipping. do not worry about it."

. and this is the RMA(of my previous laser) response:

"Could you pls provide us the SKU to us,which you want to ask us to test for you.We have to inquiry with our related dept."
THEN: "After our confirmation with related dept. LP131S has 100mw at least.As it can light the something.But normally it couldn''t reach 200mw."

OK..they assure me it has at least 100mw... but.. WHAT MEANS.."can light the something". XD something??? i would it light a match....not something XD maybe they would say.. something it touch with the beam... in few words...."we tried on some black surface and it smoke quite fastly"....do i think correclty?
they have not a LPM.. but i think that thay did this kind of test...to say me if the laser is for sure over 100mw.

i think that if the laser "burn something"...could easily be over 100mw...
do you think that at 38$ (or 33$ for me) is a good deal to receive a 100mw laser even if it is including ir? i hope it will be TRUE green 100mw.. but i don't have a lpm XD. iwhen i will receive the laser.. i will ask you if the speed of the burning ability is good for a 100mw laser..

realista said:

i update: i bought the 38$ laser pen but now i don't understand how to get the 5$ credit refund.. of my previous purchase(it was an underpowered laser). i payed FULL price now. now i wait for the focalprice assistant what to do to pay 38.65-5=33.65. i think thay will tell me to add an item of about 5$..but i don't want this. i want the refund XD

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Ask them to refund and they'll issue a refund of $5 to your paypal on the payment. Just refer the new order in your ticket.

I got a $20 refund on their "200mW" star bluray pointer due to underspec.

realista said:

HOWEVER......i asked them what is betetr between the 41$ laser or the 38. i had A LOT of messages with them.... i explained i don't wait a true 200 because it is IMPOSSIBLE....

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Of course it is not impossible. I would however not count on focalprice to deliver it for you. Not for this price tag.

And yes. Their support sucks. You need to rephrase what you want to know in 3 different ways before they understand plain english.

realista said:

i think that if the laser "burn something"...could easily be over 100mw...

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Key word is "could". I've seen reviews here of focusable 50mW:ers which can burn stuff.

I hope your buy serves the purpose! I would not hope for much however.

Mikael

1- did you buy the $ 58.85 bluray laser? i read 1 reviews by a FP member called "LASER". mmh 38$ for a 50mw bluray with star.. is very good .. who asked 20$ you ?or it is a refund that thay told you?(why 20...and not 15.. or 25.. this is the point... is it depending on you or them?).
2- yeah it is impossible to have a laser PEN at 200mw optotronics jmax output is about 170mw... and it is one of the best laser pen in the market. i read the rewiev of a member.. maybe brewcitymsic.. that bought the 44$laser ( he payed 74$ before) and it was at 130/140mw with wide beam. also the DX 200mw pen can do max 130mw about. i've never heard of these chinese pen to do over 135 mw about!

3- yeah..50mw can burn if FOCUSABLE laser.. but if this laser .. standing on the focalprice information.. CAN burn at fixed focus( and we know.. is difficult that a cheap laser have a beam of 1mm, this laser could have a 1.5-2mm diameter).....i can say that yes.. it is at 80% over 100mw...to burn UNfocused.

i hope you understand my 3rd point....i think it is reasonable

HOWEVER... i think focalprice support is great... do you think the same thing? what seller give a partial refund for a underspec laser? dealextreme do this????i think not. i know dealextreme can CREDIT you the cost of the shipping return if defective( that's good).... but.. also FP gave me this option free return cost! ..i've never heard people receive partial refund by DX..so i think that for lasers... FP support is better.

realista said:

1- did you buy the $ 58.85 bluray laser? i read 1 reviews by a FP member called "LASER". mmh 38$ for a 50mw bluray with star.. is very good .. who asked 20$ you ? [...]

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I bought it at full price. Then I noticed that it was severely under spec. Their 20mW shipped one at a lower price is stronger. So I requested to return the product for a full refund & since it was so severely under spec I demanded that they would cover for my whole return shipment (about $25 USD from Sweden to HK, registered mail).

Their compromise was to either refund $20 (which they initially refused until I posted above demand) or that I took all shipping and they did a full refund of product value. The decision wasn't hard.

realista said:

2- yeah it is impossible to have a laser PEN at 200mw optotronics jmax output is about 170mw...

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Well.. They'll just have a Very short cycle time due to heat...

realista said:

HOWEVER... i think focalprice support is great... do you think the same thing? what seller give a partial refund for a underspec laser? dealextreme do this????i think not.

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In that respect it's probably better. They however have a VERY hard time understanding what their customers say. It feels like they are translating it to chinese via google language tools or something. This is for my part a quite bad quality.

But sure, it's great that they can take responsibility for their wrongs. But this is to be expected from a company. Otherwise I would not deal with them again.

Mikael

I think all of them are the same, but as we all know when it comes to the 200mW pens coming from everywhere they are just a lotery, get the one that have the host you like the more and pray a bit

ah.. the OLD 20mw is stronger??...mmh.. is it over 50mw? 70.. 80mw? please do some photo and a review of your 50mw kaleidoscopik lburay and the 20mw(now200) bluray laser. also both in 1 review.. that should be good...

they changed the name of the laser from 20 to 200mw ahahah so we can ask a partial refund also with it..XD that is just at good price.. but they should put the precise power! 200mw is too much...to be true..

however now i can't ask a partial refund for the NON 200mw i bought XD doh.. i am thinking that i did the wrong thing!!! i should heve oreder other things.. like battery.. ecc.. end use the 5$ credit/refund. not... i cannot ask a refund for the non 200mw because i asked an over 100mw. but i am GENUINE... i think to be HONEST.. i only requested them to receive an over 100mw ( half nominal power)..because i know..that for just 38$ is A steal...a good deal...to have a >100mw.