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using a laser to print circuit boards?

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So, I'm working on a way to produce PCBs for small jobs, and I thought that lasers might be a good way to go, as etching seems to be very difficult from small traces, needed for many microcontrollers.

I started by searching the absobance spectrum of copper, as the metal itself is very reflective. A quick search turned out that the absorbance of copper rests right around 800nm. Thus I came to the conclusion that an 808nm etching diode would probably be best.
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My question to you, is weather or not the laser qould actually remove material, or if the copper will take on the heat? 808nm lasers are very focusable,and I plan on having an estimated power of 360KW/cm2 (40W diode at .112mm2 dot)..

I've worked with many lasers before, ranging from IR to UV, and I know enough safety to know that 808 modules are generally focused beasts.

also see: http://laserpointerforums.com/f44/best-laser-melting-copper-powder-80583.html
 





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I'm sure you could direct etch just fine - but the easiest way would be to use some sort of coating on the board - either a paint or some sort of photo-sensitive layer. It's been done those ways plenty of times.

Laser etched PCB production | Hackaday

Exposing PCBs with a home made laser printer | Hackaday

Laser-Based PCB Printer | Hackaday

Exposing PCBs with a home made laser printer | Hackaday

https://web.archive.org/web/20120119142047/http://blog.reonarudo.info/

Not sure how well 40W of CW power at 808nm would work, something Q-switched would probably work better - that'd ablate the copper. May run into issues with the substrate/surrounding copper melting if you go too slow with CW.


I take it you're looking at a fibre coupled 808nm diode? Keep in mind a 40W bar isn't going to give you the beam performance you want otherwise.
 
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I take it you're looking at a fibre coupled 808nm diode? Keep in mind a 40W bar isn't going to give you the beam performance you want otherwise.

I'm planning on using a lens to focus the laser based on the substrate. I'm reading up on pulsed abalation of copper now, but I'm having no luck on beam abalation.
 

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I'm planning on using a lens to focus the laser based on the substrate. I'm reading up on pulsed abalation of copper now, but I'm having no luck on beam abalation.


Could you give us a little more detail on your planned optical setup?
 

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like a schematic, a technical drawing, a few words? what would be most useful?


A drawing would be good if you have something handy :p - but words would work too :D

Which diode? Which Lens(es)?

Might need to fire up the ~20W 808 and see what it does to some blank PCB - fibre coupled so I can get down to a reasonably tight spot with a short FL lens.
 

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I am curious how powerful of the laser you will need in order to etch the copper.
 
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