recommendation for birds

duh!

DUH !


double DUH!!!

most birds are not too fond of owls and hawks. a very effective bird deturrent is a plastic owl decoy. Available on-line and in some stores. You mount it anywhere near your window and most birds will avoid that area. done deal! laser will not work.

I was in a food court and there was a big male starling flying about in the ceiling girders. When it decided to perch directly above me and my lunch I give it a shot of 700mWs of 445 nm. did not need to flash it in the birds eyee btw. the bird split.

a few minutes later it returned--repeat above.

It came back a little later and then completely ignored my laser. I moved it rapidly all over the bird and it seemed obliviouse to the laser. I ended up moving to another table.

Starlings BTW are extremely common here and considered somewhat as a pest species. Owl decoys can be seen on the porches of MANY beach houses here in Tx. and on docks were boats are kept. Seagulls are the main offenders and can crap all over everything. Flying rats!! never feed them-- they dont need it and the food most peeps throw at them is not in thier normal diet-( in some USA cities feeding gulls is outlawed!)- once you start they will keep coming back for more and if your car is under where they perch.... you get the picture.

hak(SPCA)

GREAT to hear someone that actually know what is talking about. :beer:

hakzaw1 said:

duh!

DUH !


double DUH!!!

most birds are not too fond of owls and hawks. a very effective bird deturrent is a plastic owl decoy. Available on-line and in some stores. You mount it anywhere near your window and most birds will avoid that area. done deal! laser will not work.

I was in a food court and there was a big male starling flying about in the ceiling girders. When it decided to perch directly above me and my lunch I give it a shot of 700mWs of 445 nm. did not need to flash it in the birds eyee btw. the bird split.

a few minutes later it returned--repeat above.

It came back a little later and then completely ignored my laser. I moved it rapidly all over the bird and it seemed obliviouse to the laser. I ended up moving to another table.

Starlings BTW are extremely common here and considered somewhat as a pest species. Owl decoys can be seen on the porches of MANY beach houses here in Tx. and on docks were boats are kept. Seagulls are the main offenders and can crap all over everything. Flying rats!! never feed them-- they dont need it and the food most peeps throw at them is not in thier normal diet-( in some USA cities feeding gulls is outlawed!)- once you start they will keep coming back for more and if your car is under where they perch.... you get the picture.

hak(SPCA)

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to hakzaw1 again.

The only thing the crows here will react to is the 12 gauge.

qumefox said:

The only thing the crows here will react to is the 12 gauge.

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There is more than 1 way, you can;t say "Only" It might work granted, and yeah they wont come back guaranteed. But it's not the "Only" way.

to OP: Someone mentioned a Hawk dummy and now a Owl dummy both i think and more so the Owl if you gave Hakz the right bird.

qumefox said:

The only thing the crows here will react to is the 12 gauge.

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WRONG --Crows in particular HATE owls. I have made them scatter with my owl call.

@hakzaw1
Dude the cat will have kitten!! I don't know how to explain I'm not english.. She has a big belly she had sex you know, can you help me??

edit: pregnant cat! Thats the word

Leo--PM

Leonard

ftr we do have a plastic owl a short distance away from the tree.

I got a plastic owl that is motion controlled. It hoots and moves its head around in a very disturbing way.
I build log homes and the pigeons get into the shop where the logs are milled. The owl didn't do jack...
I am fond of 12 gauge population control but it doesn't work once they wise up to gunfire.
For sparrows and starlings (pest birds) I have heard that you can mix pig chop (food) or I guess any small seeds with portland cement and when they eat it, it plugs them off and they eventually die.
I am all for killing for food, killing for fur, and killing destructive/threatening animals but unless it is a clean kill (humane) it shouldn't be done. No reason to make a critter suffer.

To answer your original question:
Reds are supposed to work the best of the diode lasers
Blue is said to be nearly invisible to any bird except owls
Green works the best but it is VERY temperature sensitive and will stop lasing green once it gets cold.
I have killed MANY magpies in my youth with a blowgun (they maim sick livestock). Q-tip darts work allright but a piece of 3/16" dowel, drilled to accept a finely sharpened finishing nail, with a little cotton wrapped on the back end is a lot more accurate and they are actually easier to make.
I use an aluminum arrow (from a high quality 160lb pull compound bow) because they are VERY strong and can take a bit more of a beating once the ends are cut and dressed.
A little electrical tape works if you don't have a mouthpiece (my mouthpiece was from an elk call) and gives you something to push against so you have more power/range.
I also used spent .22 brass if I wanted a stun shot, the whistle when you shoot them and they still have a pretty mean sting.
They can kill small birds if you head shoot though so tone down your breath.
When you are focusing on the target, in your peripheral vision you will see two blowgun ends (double vision), just center the target and elevation comes with practice and consistency.
I have competitions with my girlfriend with the blowguns, it is still a lot of fun.

One of these does the trick.

Cyclone Slingshot | Canadian Tire

weidmark said:

One of these does the trick.

Cyclone Slingshot | Canadian Tire

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Go a couple extra bucks and get the one with a wrist brace, your accuracy will thank you

Instead of a wrist brace get something with lower forks that's the key to accuracy. Welcome To A+ Slingshots - Slingshots & Accessories
If you do get a sling shot use sugar cubes or make some clay balls.
be careful though shooting slings can be very addictive

1mW :crackup: your something else comparing birds to humans, maby you should think twice befor posting.

Leodahsan said:

people, if you were annoying someone, would you like to take a 100mW green hit at your eye? THINK TWICE BEFORE POSTING.

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did you say 1mW so he wouldn't hurt the birdies eyes ?
did you know the united states goverment has declaired 5mW safe for human consumption !

1mW aint going to do crap, I have tryed to do the same thing with much higher power lasers and some birds just don't care about laser beams.

I would try and make a diricitional speaker and blast the bird with some ROCK-N-ROLL.

Leodahsan said:

@Krogith
Yeah dude. I think the maximum for scaring the bird away should be 1mW greenie. That should "flash" him for a instant and he would fly away.

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Blasting with rock and roll still isn't as effective (or satisfying) as blasting with primer cord ^_^
Your best bet is to just take away what is attracting them.
I am all for killing a pest species but might not be necessary, if you can make it more troublesome to be there than it is worth, they have no reason to come back.
My granola grabber neighbor LOVES magpies (mexican pheasant) and feeds them dog food all winter.
I generally kill all of the new ones when they are still young and stupid but the old adults get wise to shotguns if you miss even once.
Magpies have fluorescing panels on their wings though, 405nm or 445nm might be where their visual acuity is.
If I can dazzle and kill, I'm all for that.
If you think this is cruel, you don't know how bad magpies are.
If there is a sick animal laying down they will peck it's eyes out or even peck a hole in it's hip. In nature this makes the animal an easy target for predators and the magpies get a big kill, close to the nest.
These birds are torture experts but the neighbor doesn't listen to reason. They are also ****ing annoying, bouncing around on the roof and cackling at 6am after I'm out partying all night :evil:

Xoxos,

I guess a twelve guage and #8 shot are off the table for consideration?:undecided:

my annoying bird has got the message and high-tailed it. my interest in lasers remains

yeah, magpies. a year ago i rescued a baby magpie that another male had driven away from its parents. dripping water down it's throat while deterring the aggressor with a stick bcs he kept making passes at my head, silently gliding in from behind and snapping with his beak. gave me a scratch, which cost him a few embarassing run-ins.

now that i'm less in need of information i can go on to describe my experiences that are not favoured by science. the vagaries of the universe have made it possible for me to understand what other creatures are saying ("mental"), which is why this one particular bird was so annoying and i had no interest in wounding it (because it was essentially being coerced by a malicious person). yap, mad, gifted, whatever you want to call it, i've heard it before for decades, doesn't change my experience.

that magpie was funny though. after i was out of his space he went back to his tree where his missus was and she wouldn't give him the time of day bcs i'd embarrased him, so he went on for a good while about how brave he'd been trying to charm her with his machismo. and the babe found his nest again