New terrorist weapon, should we be worried ???

I found this on a website & thought that some of the "PYROMANIACS" out there might find it interesting. It's NOT disgusting, & does NOT show anything that could make you want to toss your lunch. It SHOULD however, 'cause you to have a great deal of RESPECT & PRIDE for our ARMED FORCES, wherever in the world they are fighting against Terrorism, 'cause this is but one of the insidious explosive devices that they must face on an almost daily basis. If nothing else, it should send a chill down your spine :yabbmad:
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SCARY, ISN'T IT ????? rob

That is just crazy.

Did ya notice how they worded everything ? They referred to the components used, as generically as possible, so that NOBODY would be able to put something so volatile as that together "just to see what it would do ?" Just the fact that crap like that exists at all, sent a shiver down my spine when I watched this video !!!

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I call this fake.

I'm becoming suspicious of pens...
Imagine how much damage a small can-ful could do... poor watermelon :cryyy:

Ya, they could have easily filled the pen up with something else or alot of the same stuff. Even so IED's are still easy to make.

@ ]Hallucynogenyc, I took two years of Chemistry in High School, & a year & a half in college. Just with my limited education, & an unlimited access to the 'storeroom' (in high school), you'd be very surprised at what you can whip up with just a partial education in chemistry. NOT FAKED !!!!

It's fixed.

Virtually anything can be made to explode if the right conditions are met.

Chemistry and physics, combined they are dangerous knowledge.

Without going into a lot of details, you can buy everything you need at wal mart to level wal mart.

Thanks, fixed by editing. How the H**L did THAT happen ?!?!?!? Thanks BRANDO !!!

You are very welcome.

lol fake. look at the point of the explosion. it's coming from centered over the pipe the melon is sitting on. It should look more off to the side of the pen is blowing up.

Binary explosives are nothing new, and yes they can be made powerful. In fact every explosive must be mixed together at some point. The concept of a binary explosive is simply make it later. However this video looks set up to fool you. Besides, even TNT or nitroglycerin could knock a melon off a pipe. You don't get to see the ground afterward. Just the top of the pipe and no more melon. All the video shows is a melon, a boom that doesn't look quite right, then no more melon on screen.. I'm certain it's in pieces, but the way he's showing it makes it REALLY hard to gauge how powerful the explosion was. You would need to zoom out and show a wider view to gauge the blast radius. Nothing useful is shown to allow you to gauge the explosion.

Just another weirdo trying to scare people online with a video set up to make things look scarier then they really are. Even down to the cheesy suspense music.

Also, you don't need a binary explosive to make a bomb that has no metallic parts, Anyone could simply load up some nitroglycerin into a nice plastic or glass container, then throw it. While you have a good chance of killing yourself trying, there are no shortage of suicidal terrorists. You wouldn't even need to go black market to make the stuff, the chemicals are easily available.

As Photon said, a little knowledge of physics and chemistry is a dangerous thing. What should be feared is terrorists ever getting smart. Not terrorists finding expensive black market high explosive recipies.

I'm inclined to call bullshit on the video. The drop used is minute, in the other of several, maybe tens of milligrams. This might be enough to just nudge a watermelon of a pole, but not enough to 'completely obliterate' one using any chemical explosive.

Chemical explosives hold a limited amount of energy per mass. In fact, there is less energy in a kilogram of dynamite or TNT then there is in a kilogram of gasoline. The only difference is how quickly that energy can be released.

In the broader sense: it would be perfectly possible to reproduce that result with a pen-sized explosive device. A pen could hold 10 ml or so of nitroglycerine, and a blast cap to set it off too. While that would not be a 'huge bomb' by any standards, it could be enough to blast out an airplane window causing a serious incident.

Should we be worried about that? No.

We should accept that it is possible to cause a large number of victims using very small devices of various natures in some circumstances. Measures like limiting the amount of liquids someone can take on a plane are completely useless in this regard.

Even a 100 ml bomb could blow a hole in an airplane hull or window, and if someone would set that off in the front rows of seats, chances are that matter blasted out would end up in the engine(s) on that side, resulting in a plane with limited areodynamics, rapid decompression, possible damage to flight controls, and loss of one engine. A plane could be safed despite all of that, but its by no means guaranteed and it'd be a very serious incident almost guaranteed to end up in at least injuries.

Somehow people obsess about tiny bombs on airplanes, while all other forms of transportation bascially allow you to put a 20 kg bomb in the luggage, and not even travel yourself (getting off the train or bus before departure).

Terrorists prefer to target airplanes because this instills a fear to travel more than anything else. If the goal is to actually kill large numbers of people, they resort to much easier targets - we have seen this on european subways, as an almost daily practise on isreali busses, and even bombings on nightclubs on bali where a van full of explosives was simply parked out front and set off.

Increased air security -only- is a nuisance to passengers. Terrorist that set out on creating casualties dont have to resort to high tech small explosives. We obsess about a liter bottle on an airplane, while it would be trivial to drive a truck loaded with several tons of explosives into a sports arena, potentially killing thousands in one shot.

StridAst said:

Anyone could simply load up some nitroglycerin into a nice plastic or glass container, then throw it. While you have a good chance of killing yourself trying, there are no shortage of suicidal terrorists. You wouldn't even need to go black market to make the stuff, the chemicals are easily available.

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Nitroglycerin is very easy to make using commonly available chemicals (glycerin, nitric acid and a bit of surfuric acid), but its very tricky to use. Not only can it detonate prematurely with little agitation, it can also refuse to function with mechanical impact.

If stabilized as dynamite (absorbed in sawdust or a particular kind of dirt) its less prone to spontanous detonation, but you'd need a blast cap or other primary to set it off reliably.

As I said earlier, I call this fake.

It's exactly what Benm said, you can make me believe that such an small amount of explosive could break a watermelon, but not "completely destroy it". Also, what the hell is the tape for?

@benm: that about killing the most people you said isn't that correct IMO. If you get to take the plane down you have a 99% chances to kill everyone inside that plane. (300?) Bombs in undergrounds and such are not that effective. Here in Madrid, they used several bombs and killed 190 people. And then, about "fear", actually there are a lot of controls a terrorist should pass trough before entering a bomb in a plane, there are 0 controls in a train, underground... I think if they aim planes is exactly because of the amount of people they can kill with a single bomb.

I suppose the end result with attacking a plane is killing everyone aboard. This may or may not work out, whereas a subway or club attack will have a number of casualties regeardless of how well the attack is perormed.

The only thing i want to remove is the aviation-risk stigma: if you will die in a terrorist attack, chances are that will not happpen on a plane as a passenger. Horrible scenarios like the 9/11 attacks should serve as examples for that.

Anyone with intent to kill large numbers of random people can and will succeed in that, regardless of air traffic.