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Old 04-08-2011, 07:56 PM   #1
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Default Navy Laser sets ship on fire

Hi Folks,

Here's a video of a recent test the Navy did with a 15KW laser tracking a boat a mile away. Pretty amazing that it can keep the beam steady with both laser and target on a rolling sea. Their plans for the future are pretty outrageous too.

Check it out: Video: Navy Laser Sets Ship on Fire | Danger Room | Wired.com

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*Gulp

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Hey CC...
looks weird in the fact that they didn't put a target on the target
ship and aimed at the outboard motors instead... They could have
used another Black target...

The ignition looked like some onboard pyrotechics.... Much too
position stable.. IMO

Also...no shots of the ship that had the laser... not much proof
that a laser started the fire....


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Laser Destroys IEDs in Test - Video - Wired

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^^^^ Those IED Laser Shots look realistic...

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ship and aimed at the outboard motors instead... They could have
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Why not test it in a realistic scenario?

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position stable.. IMO
This is perfectly feasible with all of the guidance technology the Navy has at its disposal. We had absurdly accurate guidance technology 10 years ago. It's only advanced since then.

Besides, my DSLR can do face tracking at the rate the boat was bobbing and it's only a $1200 device. Now apply the budget that the military was given during the Bush administration. Now when you put two and two together...

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that a laser started the fire....
Well, there are vehicle mounted lasers to destroy IED's and shoot down ICBM's. I feel like a laser doing this is not far fetched.

But... based on your experience with 15kW CW lasers, did a laser start this fire?

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Nice nice .. but real fun starts with megawatt class.

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I think the concept is feasible. Aiming at a boat a mile away is not that difficult with modern technolgy. Israel has developed laser systems to shoot down incoming projectiles travelling much faster and demonstrations of that system were successful... which is quite a feat since the projectiles they are faced with are not nicely shaped rockets but homebrew unguided ones with erratic flight paths.

Obviously such lasers have little or no role in modern warfare as you could easily make your target reflective to the wavelength of the laser, and even retroreflective if you want to shoot back free of charge
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This is perfectly feasible with all of the guidance technology the Navy has at its disposal. We had absurdly accurate guidance technology 10 years ago. It's only advanced since then.

Besides, my DSLR can do face tracking at the rate the boat was bobbing and it's only a $1200 device. Now apply the budget that the military was given during the Bush administration. Now when you put two and two together...



Well, there are vehicle mounted lasers to destroy IED's and shoot down ICBM's. I feel like a laser doing this is not far fetched.

But... based on your experience with 15kW CW lasers, did a laser start this fire?

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Gee Trevor.... with all those first hand facts you must be right and I must be wrong....

BUT....based on your experience with 15kW CW lasers, did a laser start this fire?

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this laser is amazing!

Maybe it can light a boat (or not, whatever^^) but the ultimate question is:

will it pop a balloon?


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As long as the balloon will threaten fleet security, it surely will !
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this laser is amazing!

Maybe it can light a boat (or not, whatever^^) but the ultimate question is:

will it pop a balloon?


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I think it will vaporize it or send it into another dimension...

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Maybe if this balloon was coming after you...
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^^^^ He!!... we can probably bring that hydrogen filled balloon down with
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Gee Trevor.... with all those first hand facts you must be right and I must be wrong....

BUT....based on your experience with 15kW CW lasers, did a laser start this fire?

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Based on what else the Navy (and Air Force) has at their disposal, I'm just saying that the burden of proof this didn't happen is on you. Remember the words of our friend A. C. Clark: "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

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All I was saying is the Video in the 1st post looks like... as you put it
"magic"... to me.... and question it...
I never said that the technology does not exist since I'm fully aware
that it does... It still doesn't look like a Laser set it on fire to me...

Prove to me that in that specific Video a Laser caused the fire...
I can be convinced with facts... With the facts as I see them now
I question that a Laser set the Fire... It looks more like pyrotechnics
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I don't need to prove anything to you... I stated what I see in that
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All I was saying is the Video in the 1st post looks like... as you put it
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I never said that the technology does not exist since I'm fully aware
that it does... It still doesn't look like a Laser set it on fire to me...

Prove to me that in that specific Video a Laser caused the fire...
I can be convinced with facts... With the facts as I see them now
I question that a Laser set the Fire... It looks more like pyrotechnics
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I don't need to prove anything to you... I stated what I see in that
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Okay, then.

We know that kilowatt-class CW lasers like to throw sparks when trained on materials like metal: YouTube - Stage 2: Laser Cutting Stainless Steel YouTube 3D Logo

Materials also tend to catch fire when a kilowatt-class CW laser is trained on them. Need I prove this?

The video showed sparks flying from a point on the engine housing, with the engine housing quickly catching fire. A bright, stationary dot persisted where the matter was being obliterated by the laser beam. This looks consistent with a 15kW laser being kept stationary on an absorptive object.

That's really beside the point though. There are more powerful lasers (think the ATL) that can track faster moving objects farther away. We've all seen the videos on youtube of multi-kilowatt lasers operating in controlled environments, and how the targeted materials behave. The only extra thing that happens here that doesn't happen in machine shops is the large ensuing fire.

Is the authenticity of this video really so far-fetched?

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We can dance all day long with this... I got better things to do...
I know what I saw in that video...

Yeah... you win... it was gremlins...

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Yeah... you win... it was gremlins...

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Hey, I'm not gonna stop you from boating in restricted waters.

Good job not closing with "lol ur gay" this time though.

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here look at this post in another section. we have already talked about this naval laser.
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I already got a room.... just having problems kicking
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