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Hey guys. So I have read about the military utilizing high powered lasers as dazzlers against the enemy in the overseas combat zones. It was stated that at a distance, lasers have been used to "dazzle" the enemy and avoid an all out engagement or firefight. Other things stated was that enemy would become very disoriented and vomit as a result of the laser dazzling. The information presented depicted that lasers were a great alternative and used as an effective form of non-lethal force, which at certain times, was safer for our troops. I was just wondering the validity of this information as I have read about it through various sources, some of which are deemed reliable. If it is so, then how come when we use our lasers and people see them...they don't go around throwing up or falling over in disorientation?

I mean I know we never point our beams directly at someone, but it would be naive to say that absolutely NO ONE sees our beams when we laze at night, let alone the first person view who is actually operating the unit. Would the beam need to hit someone directly in his/her field of vision to cause the vomiting and disorientation? And if so, does anyone know the physics behind that reaction? I don't think it can be brightness alone as strobes even at a close distance rarely if ever cause anyone to vomit...just maybe a little disorientation which quickly subsides. The subject is interesting to me and I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts. Thanks in advance for any insight.

- Recon
 





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well, I don't see a hobbist laser dazzler being easy to do, because you need enough power to dazzle, but low power to not blind, I have thinked of this yet and didn't like the idea, as a 9hz flashlight will do the job much better than a very collimated light source as a laser.
 

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I see. Well I definitely don't want or need one but I was just wondering what would cause the vomiting and the inability to fight after being "dazzled."
 

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Looks like they are not super powerful:

B.E. Meyers: GLARE LA-9/P Non-Lethal Visual Disruption Laser

Tough to tell, but the Laser Dazzler looks like two or three 250mW 532nm green lasers mounted on a rifle stock?

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the vomiting is caused by the brain, you could look at wikipedia for "strobe light" and "seizure".
 

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Interesting. That sure would look nice on my bushmaster :cool:Not sure I quite understand the whole idea though. I mean, a strobe at close range, i.e. a couple feet away, won't make me or anyone I know vomit. Nor seize. Seizure disorders and epilepsy are a completely different subject matter. Strobes can induce seizures for pre-existing conditions. But I doubt every member of opposing forces has epilepsy :D. I'm not understanding why a strong beam would suddenly incapacitate an enemy at hundreds of yards away when a powerful strobe couldn't and wouldn't do this at close range.
 
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well, maybe someone with more knowledge can help you on the "why it happen" question. :beer:


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well, wait some time should be the right option.
if you want, you can send an email to a specialized manufacturer about that :beer:
 

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That one in the pic is a single pulsed high-power module with autofocus system (the two vertical lenses on the side of the main laser body is a rangefinder unit that drive the focusing lens) ..... it's used for avoid that the beam can be focused too tight on a too near target, causing permanent blinding (there is also a version that just reduce the output power, instead to change the focus, but from just the outside viewing is difficult to say clearly if this unit is the varifocus or the varipower, so it can also be the second type).

Good system, but knowing the militar market, probably it will cost a pair of lungs and an eye (and a b*ll as package fees, too :p :crackup:)



EDIT: ROTFL ..... "avoid eye exposure" advice on a device made intentionally for be pointed at eyes :p :D


EDIT 2: found some more informations about it ..... it's not a "vari" type ..... opposite to them, the rangefinder just turn off the beam when someone is less than 60 meters from the front, in this model, and it can be excluded for use it as a weapon ..... maybe a "reduced features model" ? ..... not sure.
 
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Wouldnt mind seeing it running, i'd take one for the team :)
 

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The more I look at it and read about it I want one for my rifle lol. Honestly its crazy to think about the laser technology that's probably used by the military that we don't even know about yet. And maybe never will.
 




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