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Joker of sci-fi outright lies to customers. STAY AWAY.

Razako

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I was really holding off on starting this thread, but things have gotten WAY out of hand with this company.


Here Joker is posting in my thread that the lasers were shipped on the 20th and I'd get a tracking soon. I never did. I finally complained in the thread and then he pmed me a tracking which still doesn't work and a VERY odd message. Seems to imply that my lasers were never shipped on the 20th at all huh?

No lasers, no working tracking, no communication. Let me guess? Israeli Postal service lost everything right? I wouldn't recommend this company to my worst enemy. Most aggravating buying experience of my life right here. Personally I think we need to award RedCowboy the forum medal of honor. He was right about this company the whole time.

:beer: Paypal claim is now active.:beer:
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Now to hope Joker hasn't emptied. his Paypal account and disconnected his credit card from it.

Anyone know if Paypal provides insurance if that happens?
 
That makes no sense. Why would a package that contains expensive lasers not get delayed at customs? What?

I don't know why anyone is still giving him the benefit of the doubt. Open a claim while you still have time :\

-Alex
 
Now to hope Joker hasn't emptied. his Paypal account and disconnected his credit card from it.

Anyone know if Paypal provides insurance if that happens?

Not how PayPal works. Paypal is an echeck service. It acts almost as an intermediary bank account between your purchases/sales and bank account. The credit card functionality is actually an afterthought which is why it costs extra in fees. When claims are opened up, your money is stuck in the intermediary account until they're resolved.

Pretty sure Joker's got a huge amount of stuff to deal with before he can touch a dime of recent orders. He won't be able to dash will all of you guys' money.
 
Not how PayPal works. Paypal is an echeck service. It acts almost as an intermediary bank account between your purchases/sales and bank account. The credit card functionality is actually an afterthought which is why it costs extra in fees. When claims are opened up, your money is stuck in the intermediary account until they're resolved.

Pretty sure Joker's got a huge amount of stuff to deal with before he can touch a dime of recent orders. He won't be able to dash will all of you guys' money.

That makes me feel a lot better, thanks.
 
Wow, I think a got mine from him in late Sept and sure do feel like one of the lucky ones. As long as paypal is on your side at least thats a sign of relief :)
 
Well all this has happened just in time. You lot have saved me a lot of future grief so thanks. I was about to buy the other day.
 
I had a rough experience as well. But it did show up, after 3 tracking numbers and a lot of confusion. I fried it soon, and I've given up on the replacement module he said he sent me
 
Joker is a liar and a completely untrustworthy, that advert up top needs to go.
 
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