Glow Crazy

aryntha said:

Has anyone ordered this? If not, I will.

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Not yet, I tried finding one somewhere around me (walmart, target, etc) but couldn't find one. If you order it I'm looking forward to seeing what power it is.

sopark4000 said:

At 5mW a 405 is still barely visible even with fog.

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In the commercial, the video is taken with a camera, not a human eyeball, therefore there will be some discrepancy between what is seen in the video and what is seen in first person.

EVERYTHING for TV is modified or changed to show whatever they want to sell to the maximum for how they want to sell it.
Watch the ads and note the small print disclaimers that show for a few seconds, usually at the bottom of the screen. IF you could read it, it would tell you that the product you buy "may not look or work as shown" or in other ways not be the same as the one displayed. The disclaimers sometimes even say strait out that the units used for TV have been modified for the "purposes of advertising" and do not reflect the products being sold.
Check the packaging for the products when you have it in your hands and quite often it will also have some form of disclaimer to the same effect on it concerning the products inside.
Advertising is a form of publicity to get your attention. They want to make things look good enough that you want to buy it. (Go ahead and find some of those postings on the internet that show you the comparisons of the major fast-food outlets and their products. I have never seen a burger that looks like the pictures in the restaurants) It's all about the sale. And they only have a few scant seconds to sway your opinion.
Of course the ads will be full of doctored best case scenarios that are "indications" of the actual results.
Anyone that thinks otherwise is just being foolish.

I maintain my opinion that they are using a 450nm laser to make that commercial. I do agree with rhd though, I doubt the product uses a 450nm.

Anyway, this is all speculation at this point.

ShortyInCanada said:

EVERYTHING for TV is modified or changed to show whatever they want to sell to the maximum for how they want to sell it.
Watch the ads and note the small print disclaimers that show for a few seconds, usually at the bottom of the screen. IF you could read it, it would tell you that the product you buy "may not look or work as shown" or in other ways not be the same as the one displayed. The disclaimers sometimes even say strait out that the units used for TV have been modified for the "purposes of advertising" and do not reflect the products being sold.
Check the packaging for the products when you have it in your hands and quite often it will also have some form of disclaimer to the same effect on it concerning the products inside.
Advertising is a form of publicity to get your attention. They want to make things look good enough that you want to buy it. (Go ahead and find some of those postings on the internet that show you the comparisons of the major fast-food outlets and their products. I have never seen a burger that looks like the pictures in the restaurants) It's all about the sale. And they only have a few scant seconds to sway your opinion.
Of course the ads will be full of doctored best case scenarios that are "indications" of the actual results.
Anyone that thinks otherwise is just being foolish.

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Ummm none of us are debating this. I think all of us here know that what you see on a commercial is not what you get. What we are debating is what wavelength this laser is (most of us agree it is 405nm) and what power it is.

Yeah, I get your point.
As I don't get to see video clips at work (even IF there was bandwidth available) I could only remind everyone that what was seen will have little to do with what is being sold.
For those considering the possibility of purchasing the item shown they would be getting something that has no real bearing on the discussions here.
That was the purpose of my post.
(Then I don't feel so left out as I don't get to watch the video, you see ?)


I would think that due to the associated costs and the liability insurance(s) required for trying to use a product of a higher calibre that using a 450nm for the video would be cost prohibitive.
The tools to enhance or even simulate a beam in post production would be far easier, cheaper, and timely which all translate to big $$$$ in savings.
It doesn't make sense to use a more powerful and dangerous replacement.
Without seeing the video I can't comment on whether a focused LED or a laser was used. But knowing that the beam could be enhanced or simulated in post production the only thing to need on the video of the item being used is to see the reflected light or effect they want to show.(GITD material brightly fluorescing from exposure, a blueish glow from the spot, etc.) A fairly low power 405nm laser would provide the necessary effects for the camera to pick up. Again some post production processing might be used to enhance the effects but the video tools are commonly available to even the pro-sumer level videophile.
-I had a video processing suite of tools a while ago that could do most of this and I didn't even spend much time with it. A professional company should be able to do the needed processing without any effort or expense.
So my logic would lean towards the 405nm version that might have been a little higher power than the pieces included in the item for sale.

From doing my research about this product, I have concluded:

The pens used in the commercial are laser pointers (rayfoss QPT model), the pens provided in the actual product are focused LED devices.

At 1:07, you can see that the kids are using the rear-clicky on the rayfoss lasers to play a "tag game". (this rayfoss laser)
Also, you can clearly see the type of laser used at 1:29-1:31; a purple, focusable rayfoss with rear-clicky used to operate the laser.

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Nice catch, I didn't even notice that at first.

Also. If you look at someone actually using the product with the included pen: HSN video

You can see it fails to work as advertised. The flood-light feature does not glow anything, and the LED is too weak to make the GITD charge for very long. (I would also be very surprised if it works 10-feet away [like they claim]) :tired:
I wonder how many families will get swindled this season thinking that this is a good gift for their kids. shame

Lol it's funny how it does not work almost at all ..

The 'fail' is probably most likely due to the them using the cheapest GITD material possible rather than the source. the 'pens' in these look to be a low power 405, coupled with a near UV LED.. After all, Good GITD material will 'charge' even with very low levels of UV while the cheap stuff will fade quickly if it charges at all.

qumefox said:

The 'fail' is probably most likely due to the them using the cheapest GITD material possible rather than the source. the 'pens' in these look to be a low power 405, coupled with a near UV LED.. After all, Good GITD material will 'charge' even with very low levels of UV while the cheap stuff will fade quickly if it charges at all.

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You beat me to it. The GITD material I purchased from glorope charges even after being flashed in front of an incandescent light bulb for a second. Even in the commercial you can see that the charge lasts for like 5 seconds on most of the surfaces. Flashing a crappy UV LED on the glo rope sheeting charges it for a while. You can literally see a remnant of the charge a good half an hour after you've charged it. Obviously it's faded but it is there.