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Focusable 200mw Blue 445nm Laser






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Some things to note on ALL high power 445nm diode lasers(that are currently available at a cost effective price at time of this post. I'm not claiming to know the future). The output will ALWAYS be rectangular REGARDLESS of what chinese websites and sellers claim. All these lasers use the exact same multimode diode. There are only two ways to get circular, or at least a symmetric square, out of these. Both have tradeoffs.

The two methods are:
Pass the beam through an aperture and simply 'cut off' all but the center section of the 'line' output. This can give you a circle, but at the expense of >50% of your power.. Meaning there's no way it will anywhere near 1W of actual usable output unless they're pushing the diodes to 2W+

The other method is to use corrective optics to make the fast axis divergence match that of the slow axis. This method will NOT be used on 'cheap' blues like the ones discussed in this thread simply due to the cost and complexity of implementing it properly, plus it leads to a needing a larger host.

So my thoughts as to the final rayfoss laser mentioned. It either has the typical rectangular output (which, to a camera at close range, will indeed look circular due to the camera sensor washout due the intensity) Or it has an aperture (unlikely due to it being focusable) and the power is likely nowhere near spec.

Just things to keep in mind.
 
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Right, if you want <$150, buy on the forum. Go to Buy\sell\trade and you'll be able to get the best deals. With a bit of luck you could get goggles included, but otherwise Radiant Electronics - Home is ran by forum users MarioMaster and Spyrorocks and their goggles are currently $5 off for LPF users.

EDIT: Sorry for not replying sooner and preventing you from paying $20 more than you needed to. Check out the forum anyway for future purchases... usually that's where you'll find the best stuff.
 
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In any case, I'm sure that AMN not going to give as much importance to what you mentioned. I think that no matter which be circular or rectangular, keep in mind that for a beginner like he or I, this isn't matter. With practice one begin to give importance to minor things, but now isn't matter.

And why is better purchase lasers here? It is better? I don't understand why. The price?
 

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So is the WickedLasers Arctic Spyder III rectangular beam?
And if that Rayfoss laser is >600mw, I'll be happy for that price.
As for buying it from the forum, I'll see what I can get there.
 
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@Antoniio: Well, buying from here you get the best customer service on the market. The prices are good, the selection is the best and the lasers go up to a much higher power.

Also, a fellow hobbyist is far more likely to know what ou want than a big company who's having to cater for many different needs in different customers.

@AMN: Have you already ordered the Rayfoss? If not, start checking out B.S.T right now!! ;)
 

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@Antoniio: Well, buying from here you get the best customer service on the market. The prices are good, the selection is the best and the lasers go up to a much higher power.

Also, a fellow hobbyist is far more likely to know what ou want than a big company who's having to cater for many different needs in different customers.

@AMN: Have you already ordered the Rayfoss? If not, start checking out B.S.T right now!! ;)

No, I haven't ordered it yet. And I already made a thread in the Buy, Sell and Trade section.
I'm still curious as to whether all blue lasers have rectangular dots or not.
 
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@Antoniio: Well, buying from here you get the best customer service on the market. The prices are good, the selection is the best and the lasers go up to a much higher power.

Also, a fellow hobbyist is far more likely to know what ou want than a big company who's having to cater for many different needs in different customers.

@AMN: Have you already ordered the Rayfoss? If not, start checking out B.S.T right now!! ;)

And I can find here, common lasers to the same way that I would can find in online shops? Or only custom lasers and built before?

Sincerely, I would prefer a new laser, instead of buying one already used.

But, If you can answer the first question : ).

And other question haha. What's the meaning of this words you've written?

B.S.T
 
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Yes the arctic has a rectangular 'dot' as well. It uses the exact same 445 diode.. from the same source, as everybody else.. i.e. Scavenged out of a certain manufacturer's DLP projectors.
 
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And I can find here, common lasers to the same way that I would can find in online shops? Or only custom lasers and built before?

Sincerely, I would prefer a new laser, instead of buying one already used.

But, If you can answer the first question : ).

And other question haha. What's the meaning of this words you've written?

B.S.T

B.S.T is Buy\Sell\Trade, the section of the forum. Sorry for not making that clear.

Some people here buy lasers, use them fora while and resell them when they get fed up, but the best sales are from the people that make the lasers themselves. There's also group buys (where someone buys a large number of a product and gets bulk discounts them distributes them to the forum at the discounted price) but that's usually not for complete lasers.

Check it out, it's great! :)
 

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People....

As much as I can understand your excitement, but please keep in mind, you are talking
about and recommending a CLASS IV LASER device to a total laser newb (as is
very clear from the posts).

Until recently, only professionals in labs and maybe some projector hobbyists with
severl thousands of dollars had access to class IV lasers. And none of them were
handheld pointers you flick about from your wrist.

I'm not saying AMN or Antoniio are stupid, but they are clearly lacking
in experience when it comes to lasers.

I see the class IV monster is already ordered, so I only can hope the soon to be owner will
use the time until it arrives to read up on safety.
These are really really dangerous devices, especially when they are your 1st laser,
and you haven't built it yourself.

I always recommend "low" powered lasers as a first experience, and the responsible
thing for AMN to do would be to get a 5mW greenie and/or BluRay and play with
those for a week or two before touching the 1W monster, although I know this is
not going to happen.:rolleyes:
 
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People....

As much as I can understand your excitement, but please keep in mind, you are talking
about and recommending a CLASS IV LASER device to a total laser newb (as is
very clear from the posts).

Mehh, wasn't really thinking hugely about that. Silly of me, good point.

The laser hasn't been ordered yet, so, yeah, AMN, get something much lower-powered if this is your first laser. Stick to the blowtorch for burning.
 
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I'm sure AMN knows the dangers which IV class involve. He's not idiot.

If he has the money to buy a expensive laser to first buying, why not?

It's a good decision.

We aree newbs, but NOT idiots.

And sorry to my ignorance, but why the idea to build an own laser, is so extended here?
 
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If he has the money to buy a expensive laser to first buying, why not?
What?:crackup:
Money != Experience!:tsk:
We aree newbs, but NOT idiots.
My words exactly.:thinking:
I'm not saying AMN or Antoniio are stupid, but they are clearly lacking
in experience when it comes to lasers.
No estoy diciendo que AMN y Antoniio son estupidos, pero obviamente les
falta experiencia con lasers.
 
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I understand your concern and feel it was very sensible of you to input that from what you have read you can make out that I'm not very experienced with lasers.
But I have owned about 20 + lasers before this, and I did start with 5mw, then moved on up, I have handled many burning lasers, and am well aware of laser dangers.
So be sure that this 1W laser that I have ordered will be used with care and I will be using goggles with it.
Thanks a lot for your concern, I appreciate it.
 
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ok MAAAN! (Y)

Do you really care what this guy is going to do?

Do you know him? What does it matter if he want a CLASS IV?

me is quite alike, he ask to buy a class iv laser. Only this.

not which they be given father advices
 
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