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Cyparagon · 01-27-2010, 05:30 PM

It's about 3V. I wouldn't run the tube any higher than 8A anyway - it's best to run it as low as possible to improve tube life. 8A is generally thought of as the best compromise between power and lifetime.

Experimentonomen · 01-27-2010, 07:35 PM

I think i´ve found out the brand of the umbilical connector: Cinch-Jones / Beau Interconnects - 11 Pin to 20 Pin <-- the 15pin one there looks mighty similar, i´ve ordered one along with a male and female DB15 connectors for an interlock/remote control plug.

Experimentonomen · 01-28-2010, 08:17 PM

I feel like its about that time to release some schematics of this thing, here they are.

The power section:

The control part which im yet to build and test:

I call this construction the MF-IL1, MF beeing my initials and IL meaning Ion Laser and the 1 meaning its my first one.

timelablasers · 02-01-2010, 09:22 AM

Hi,
Just wondering if you have received the SP tube housing? I think it's coming up to about a couple of weeks since I sent it.
Cheers,
Rob.

Experimentonomen · 02-01-2010, 09:59 AM

Its about two hours by car away from me and possibly on its way, i got the postal notice last week that sez i can go get the package today after 16:00
so im monitoring the postal service tracking to see when it shows up at the local post office.

Unfortunately there may still be another week before the fans arrives, and 3-5weeks before i get the connector i need.

Experimentonomen · 02-01-2010, 11:36 AM

Tube in place:

This end goes to the psu, either through a connector or hardwired:

Plastic flaps to direct the air through the tube fins:

Warning sticker, woot 160mW!? o_O That cant be right, tube only does 15

Now where are those fans i ordered?? Bah still in shipping and wont arrive for a few days, so no fun just yet

vk2fro · 02-01-2010, 11:38 AM

Looks like you just need to wire in your supply, and slap on the starting blower for a small jet engine and your laser will look like a bought one (once you box up your supply and add my LCD controller (I'll get the design finished and send you one)

Experimentonomen · 02-01-2010, 01:47 PM

timelablasers · 02-02-2010, 10:13 AM

Hey that's neat.

timelablasers · 02-02-2010, 10:16 AM

BTW, I left two screws loose on the terminal block which are the positions where the tube leads go.

Experimentonomen · 02-02-2010, 11:06 AM

Yah i noticed those two and used them. Im currently waiting for a lazy courier to deliver my fans.

vk2fro · 02-02-2010, 12:40 PM

yay his fans just rocked up. Now lets hope it stays cool, and the longer run will provide better output as the gas pressure comes down

Experimentonomen · 02-02-2010, 12:51 PM

This is what a real laser should look and sound like

vk2fro · 02-02-2010, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Experimentonomen

This is what a real laser should look and sound like

(edit: cut video - no need to quote it)

"Airport ground control, Experementonomen, requesting push and start"

at least now you can run it for a while and see how it performs without worrying about it dying due to high temperature.

Experimentonomen · 02-02-2010, 07:12 PM

And heres the laser running with its new fan: YouTube - Spectra Physics 161B Argon Ion Laser

jaycey · 02-02-2010, 08:49 PM

Theres alot of fingers near big looking wires in that video!
and at 1:22 I think you step on a frog

Well done, I love the colour of the argons.

Experimentonomen · 02-03-2010, 07:18 AM

Now i just need to finish the psu which will be put in a different box and the transformer doesent fit into this one.

Experimentonomen · 02-03-2010, 01:50 PM

Now the laser have had a good 1.5 hour run on around 6A of tube current, any lower and the dot started flickering.

Tube voltage was measured to be 85V and filament voltage was measured to be 2.6V with 3 turns on the transformer under load, with the laser lasing.

Here are some new pics:

timelablasers · 02-06-2010, 11:58 AM

How bright do you think it is now after the extended run?

Experimentonomen · 02-06-2010, 12:17 PM

Not sure, yesterday i put the dmm on the light sensor and got 25mV on full power, im gonna get a laserbee lpm that you hook to your dmm to check the output power.

It still stops lasing below 6A so i think it needs some more hours or running.

timelablasers · 02-15-2010, 06:41 AM

Hi mate,
Looking forward to seeing how your power supply will all be packaged up. How are you going with it?
Cheers,
Rob.

Experimentonomen · 02-15-2010, 08:13 AM

The new psu is under construction, here are a few pics:

Thats the exterior pretty much done, whats left is the light/current toggle switch, the current/light control pot and some indicator lights.

vk2fro · 02-15-2010, 09:18 PM

I really love the way you recycle stuff Magus. You turn junk that you have in your basement into an artform, in this case, a case for a laser power supply. Well done

01-27-2010, 05:30 PM	#51
Cyparagon Class 3B Laser Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,610 Rep Power: 125	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon It's about 3V. I wouldn't run the tube any higher than 8A anyway - it's best to run it as low as possible to improve tube life. 8A is generally thought of as the best compromise between power and lifetime. __________________ A problem well stated is a problem half solved.

01-27-2010, 07:35 PM	#52
Experimentonomen Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 106 Rep Power: 5	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon I think i´ve found out the brand of the umbilical connector: Cinch-Jones / Beau Interconnects - 11 Pin to 20 Pin <-- the 15pin one there looks mighty similar, i´ve ordered one along with a male and female DB15 connectors for an interlock/remote control plug.

01-28-2010, 08:17 PM	#53
Experimentonomen Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 106 Rep Power: 5	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon I feel like its about that time to release some schematics of this thing, here they are. The power section: The control part which im yet to build and test: I call this construction the MF-IL1, MF beeing my initials and IL meaning Ion Laser and the 1 meaning its my first one.

02-01-2010, 09:22 AM	#54
timelablasers Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 142 Rep Power: 3	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon Hi, Just wondering if you have received the SP tube housing? I think it's coming up to about a couple of weeks since I sent it. Cheers, Rob.

02-01-2010, 09:59 AM	#55
Experimentonomen Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 106 Rep Power: 5	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon Its about two hours by car away from me and possibly on its way, i got the postal notice last week that sez i can go get the package today after 16:00 so im monitoring the postal service tracking to see when it shows up at the local post office. Unfortunately there may still be another week before the fans arrives, and 3-5weeks before i get the connector i need.

02-01-2010, 11:36 AM	#56
Experimentonomen Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 106 Rep Power: 5	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon Tube in place: This end goes to the psu, either through a connector or hardwired: Plastic flaps to direct the air through the tube fins: Warning sticker, woot 160mW!? o_O That cant be right, tube only does 15 Now where are those fans i ordered?? Bah still in shipping and wont arrive for a few days, so no fun just yet

02-01-2010, 11:38 AM	#57
vk2fro Class 1M Laser Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 120 Rep Power: 2	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon Looks like you just need to wire in your supply, and slap on the starting blower for a small jet engine and your laser will look like a bought one (once you box up your supply and add my LCD controller (I'll get the design finished and send you one) __________________ Lasers: 150mw lab DPSS module, 1 watt DPSS laser Newest toy: ArIon that does around 80 mW! Next up: Co2 Laser goggles then a 50w CO2 laser

02-01-2010, 01:47 PM	#58
Experimentonomen Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 106 Rep Power: 5	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon

02-02-2010, 10:13 AM	#59
timelablasers Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 142 Rep Power: 3	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon Hey that's neat.

02-02-2010, 10:16 AM	#60
timelablasers Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 142 Rep Power: 3	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon BTW, I left two screws loose on the terminal block which are the positions where the tube leads go.

02-02-2010, 11:06 AM	#61
Experimentonomen Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 106 Rep Power: 5	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon Yah i noticed those two and used them. Im currently waiting for a lazy courier to deliver my fans.

02-02-2010, 12:40 PM	#62
vk2fro Class 1M Laser Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 120 Rep Power: 2	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon yay his fans just rocked up. Now lets hope it stays cool, and the longer run will provide better output as the gas pressure comes down __________________ Lasers: 150mw lab DPSS module, 1 watt DPSS laser Newest toy: ArIon that does around 80 mW! Next up: Co2 Laser goggles then a 50w CO2 laser

02-02-2010, 12:51 PM	#63
Experimentonomen Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 106 Rep Power: 5	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon This is what a real laser should look and sound like

02-02-2010, 07:12 PM	#65
Experimentonomen Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 106 Rep Power: 5	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon And heres the laser running with its new fan: YouTube - Spectra Physics 161B Argon Ion Laser

02-02-2010, 08:49 PM	#66
jaycey Class 2 Laser Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: London Posts: 446 Rep Power: 14	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon Theres alot of fingers near big looking wires in that video! and at 1:22 I think you step on a frog Well done, I love the colour of the argons.

02-03-2010, 07:18 AM	#67
Experimentonomen Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 106 Rep Power: 5	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon Now i just need to finish the psu which will be put in a different box and the transformer doesent fit into this one.

02-03-2010, 01:50 PM	#68
Experimentonomen Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 106 Rep Power: 5	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon Now the laser have had a good 1.5 hour run on around 6A of tube current, any lower and the dot started flickering. Tube voltage was measured to be 85V and filament voltage was measured to be 2.6V with 3 turns on the transformer under load, with the laser lasing. Here are some new pics:

02-06-2010, 11:58 AM	#69
timelablasers Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 142 Rep Power: 3	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon How bright do you think it is now after the extended run?

02-06-2010, 12:17 PM	#70
Experimentonomen Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 106 Rep Power: 5	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon Not sure, yesterday i put the dmm on the light sensor and got 25mV on full power, im gonna get a laserbee lpm that you hook to your dmm to check the output power. It still stops lasing below 6A so i think it needs some more hours or running.

02-15-2010, 06:41 AM	#71
timelablasers Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 142 Rep Power: 3	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon Hi mate, Looking forward to seeing how your power supply will all be packaged up. How are you going with it? Cheers, Rob.

02-15-2010, 08:13 AM	#72
Experimentonomen Class 1M Laser Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Sweden Posts: 106 Rep Power: 5	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon The new psu is under construction, here are a few pics: Thats the exterior pretty much done, whats left is the light/current toggle switch, the current/light control pot and some indicator lights.

02-15-2010, 09:18 PM	#73
vk2fro Class 1M Laser Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 120 Rep Power: 2	Re: Experimentonomen´s first argon I really love the way you recycle stuff Magus. You turn junk that you have in your basement into an artform, in this case, a case for a laser power supply. Well done __________________ Lasers: 150mw lab DPSS module, 1 watt DPSS laser Newest toy: ArIon that does around 80 mW! Next up: Co2 Laser goggles then a 50w CO2 laser

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