Laser pointer forums - discuss laser pointers and laser technology. Read and write laser pointer reviews. Freely discuss companies that sell laser pointers.

Laser Pointers

Welcome to Laser Pointer Forums!


Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Green Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Blue Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Red Lasers
Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Yellow Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Purple Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Orange Lasers
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes



Go Back   Laser Pointer Forums - Discuss Laser Pointers > Lasers > Experiments & Modifications

cnilaser
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-06-2012, 02:25 AM   #1
taz
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0
taz is on a distinguished road
Default Need help with (laser vaporizer)

First i would like to thank all of you that help me in this matter. I will be posting Pic's of the lay out of what I'm trying to make. i need to install my drawing software pad and pen first BUT here goes.

I'm trying to encapsulate a laser in a small AAA (or similar) box that will vaporize liquid that is on a wick (silica based). a vacuum will be created at the time of the burn pulling the vapor out of the wick chamber. The box will be hand held and controlled by a push button much like a laser pointer. I'm trying to keep cost WAY down. this is just a proto-type. I have seen lasers burn wood and tape but there is some things i have questions about, like what is the cheapest laser i can use? can i use a imr 18650 to power it? can i use a PTN04050CAZ to drive the laser? do i need a plate behind or around the wick to vaporize the liquid in the wick? what will be the battery life if 10 second or less of burn time is applied over a day or so, this would be like using a laser pointer in a presentation over two or three days (firing sequence). Hopefully I made myself clear as mud! Thanks again for all your help I'm sure you guys will have questions.
taz is offline   Reply With Quote




Old 06-06-2012, 02:55 AM   #2
Class 3R Laser
 
T_Warne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Spokane
Posts: 1,284
Rep Power: 93
T_Warne has a reputation beyond reputeT_Warne has a reputation beyond reputeT_Warne has a reputation beyond reputeT_Warne has a reputation beyond reputeT_Warne has a reputation beyond reputeT_Warne has a reputation beyond reputeT_Warne has a reputation beyond reputeT_Warne has a reputation beyond reputeT_Warne has a reputation beyond reputeT_Warne has a reputation beyond reputeT_Warne has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Need help with (laser vaporizer)

Why are you trying to use a laser? There are just so many obstacles to overcome with this approach. Why not be sensible and use nichrome wire?
__________________
" " jake21
KARMIC JUSTICE

Last edited by T_Warne; 06-06-2012 at 02:57 AM.
T_Warne is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 06:47 AM   #3
taz
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0
taz is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Need help with (laser vaporizer)

that's what I'm trying to get away from the wire doesn't last long at all and it a pain to deal with. It should be easier to replace the diode if mounted in the box correctly and cost will be the same (I think?). But thanks for bring that up.
taz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 11:48 AM   #4
AUS
Class 2M Laser
 
AUS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Albury NSW Australia
Posts: 564
Rep Power: 33
AUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Need help with (laser vaporizer)

To be effective the colour / frequency would need to be chosen to suit the colour of the wick and / or liquid.

If it absorbs 808nm Infra Red, 445nm blue or 405nm (violet / border line UV) it could be done relatively cheaply (ie $50 to $100). The window in the vacuum chamber would also need to be transparent to the colour light you use.

1 Watt 445nm and 808nm diodes (and 800mW 405nm diodes) are *fairly* cheap, and you can melt solder with 445nm (search "Soldering with light" on the forum).
__________________
405nm 100mW Ultrafire C3
445nm 750mW Ultrafire W501B
445nm 1.8W 9mm diode Ultrafire C8

473nm 100mw DPSS Labby
488nm 12mW Uniphase Single Line Argon Gas laser.
532nm 315mW Lab laser
532nm 30mW eBay pointer
632.8nm 2mW HeNe
638nm 360mW Titanium Ice
660nm 120mW Energizer AAA MacGuyver build
660nm 300mW Cree C3 Stainless build
850nm (bugger all power probably 10mW) in NV equipment
---------------------------------------
600-700nm protection glasses
190-540nm protection glasses
---------------------------------------
Various Amateur radio & broadcast radio bits.... AWA P5 all valve 500W MW TX. 400 watt AM17 ex VHF aircraft band amplifier on 144 MHz.
AUS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2012, 03:46 PM   #5
Class 4 Laser
 
Cyparagon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 7,390
Rep Power: 598
Cyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Need help with (laser vaporizer)

If the wire doesn't last long, you're driving it too hard. Use longer or thinner wire, or use a lower voltage source.
__________________
A problem well stated is a problem half solved.
Cyparagon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-07-2012, 10:25 AM   #6
AUS
Class 2M Laser
 
AUS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Albury NSW Australia
Posts: 564
Rep Power: 33
AUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond reputeAUS has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Need help with (laser vaporizer)

Oh another thing- you may need something a bit bigger than a AAA sized module. The higher the power of the diode and the longer you have it on, the bigger the heatsink will need to be.

Also, if it's in a vacuum chamber you may have to carefully think about cooling- vacuum is, by definition, a very good insulator and it won't have air circulation to cool it down. You would have to rely on the thermal inertia of the heatsink or liquid cool it.

NOTE everyone in the room will also NEED safety glasses. Infra red is worse as you can't see what it's reflecting off, and it may not make it though whatever window is in the vacuum chamber.

It still could be worth trying but lots of experimentation will be needed!
__________________
405nm 100mW Ultrafire C3
445nm 750mW Ultrafire W501B
445nm 1.8W 9mm diode Ultrafire C8

473nm 100mw DPSS Labby
488nm 12mW Uniphase Single Line Argon Gas laser.
532nm 315mW Lab laser
532nm 30mW eBay pointer
632.8nm 2mW HeNe
638nm 360mW Titanium Ice
660nm 120mW Energizer AAA MacGuyver build
660nm 300mW Cree C3 Stainless build
850nm (bugger all power probably 10mW) in NV equipment
---------------------------------------
600-700nm protection glasses
190-540nm protection glasses
---------------------------------------
Various Amateur radio & broadcast radio bits.... AWA P5 all valve 500W MW TX. 400 watt AM17 ex VHF aircraft band amplifier on 144 MHz.
AUS is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2012, 12:52 AM   #7
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Posts: 2
Rep Power: 0
bones52ca is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Need help with (laser vaporizer)

Quote:
Originally Posted by taz View Post
First i would like to thank all of you that help me in this matter. I will be posting Pic's of the lay out of what I'm trying to make. i need to install my drawing software pad and pen first BUT here goes.

I'm trying to encapsulate a laser in a small AAA (or similar) box that will vaporize liquid that is on a wick (silica based). a vacuum will be created at the time of the burn pulling the vapor out of the wick chamber. The box will be hand held and controlled by a push button much like a laser pointer. I'm trying to keep cost WAY down. this is just a proto-type. I have seen lasers burn wood and tape but there is some things i have questions about, like what is the cheapest laser i can use? can i use a imr 18650 to power it? can i use a PTN04050CAZ to drive the laser? do i need a plate behind or around the wick to vaporize the liquid in the wick? what will be the battery life if 10 second or less of burn time is applied over a day or so, this would be like using a laser pointer in a presentation over two or three days (firing sequence). Hopefully I made myself clear as mud! Thanks again for all your help I'm sure you guys will have questions.
It sounds like you're trying to make a laser powered vaporizer or cartomizer for an e-cig. I have been thinking of doing that as well. You can buy replacement wire wound vaporizer heads 5/roughly $20.00 but they only last about two weeks each, you never know when you will have to replace one and besides, it's a pain, especially when higher technology exists.
bones52ca is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply








Database of Laser Pointer Companies




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://laserpointerforums.com/f42/need-help-laser-vaporizer-75008.html
Posted By For Type Date
Let's look forward: Where do you think vaping will be in five years? : electronic_cigarette This thread Refback 05-14-2013 03:12 AM
The Game Changer - Page 2 This thread Pingback 04-01-2013 10:44 PM
vaporizzatore laser - Pagina 4 This thread Refback 03-29-2013 10:47 AM








Loading


laser pointer forums top

















Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Green Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Blue Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Red Lasers
Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Yellow Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Purple Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Orange Lasers
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes




All times are GMT. The time now is 06:48 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use
Copyright (C) 2014 Laser Pointer Forums, LLC