Laser pointer discussion. Read/write reviews of laser pointers and laser pointer companies. Learn about all types of laser pointers and lasers





Welcome to Laser Pointer Forums! If you are looking for a laser pointer or want to compare different laser pointer companies, you may want to check out the LPF Laser Pointer Company Database. The link will open in a new window for your convenience.








Green Laser Pointers by Category Blue Laser Pointers by Category Red Laser Pointers by Category
Yellow Laser Pointers by Category Violet Laser Pointers by Category Orange Laser Pointers by Category
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes
Laser Technology Laser Pointer Parts Lasers by Wavelength
Top 10 Laser Pointer Companies Laser Pointer Company Database Visible Beam Laser Pointers


One laser store meets all your needs

























Go Back   Laser Pointer Forums - Discuss Laser Pointers > Lasers > Experiments & Modifications



LPF List of Laser Pointer Companies (link opens new window)



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-02-2014, 09:00 AM #1
Alaskan's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Alaskan Alaskan is offline
Class 4 Laser
Alaskan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

If you had several laser diodes mounted on one heat sink together and then collimated all of them with one lens, can you get a single beam out of the lens this way? If not, can the mounting surface for the diodes be curved in a way to help make the beam tighter? I'm guessing things get a bit hay wire when attempting something like this, otherwise I would see projects using this method instead of combining diode outputs with mirrors. Still, the idea interests me.


__________________

The forum costs more to run than donations received, if you wish to help click this link: http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm

Laser Safety: http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Sam's Laser FAQ: Sam's Laser FAQ: Welcome Page

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

To shorten my signature I have moved most of my laser related web links to this forum page, the second post in that thread shows most of my builds... Alaskan's Laser Links: http://laserpointerforums.com/f44/al...ml#post1449395


Sincerely investigate any of these three short quotes as new concepts and you've taken your first step into a larger world:

"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness..." - Max Planck. "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real" - Neils Bohr. "What we call physical things and events do not exist independently of subjective experience..." - Deepak Chopra.

Each of these three rabbit holes go deep, ending up in the same place.

Useless troll fighting.
.........................
PhotoB****t high jacking you too? Use this link instead:
http://imgbb.com

High resolution of my avatar: https://ibb.co/fWOhXF
Alaskan is offline   Reply With Quote







LPF List of Laser Pointer Companies (link opens new window)







Old 08-02-2014, 09:27 AM #2
Pi R Squared's Avatar
Class 3B Laser
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Snohomish County Washington, US
Posts: 3,798
Rep Power: 3794
Pi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond repute
Pi R Squared Pi R Squared is offline
Class 3B Laser
Pi R Squared's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Snohomish County Washington, US
Posts: 3,798
Rep Power: 3794
Pi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

Only 3 ways to combine beams as far as I know. Reference Guide: How to Combine Lasers

Alan
__________________
Keychain 650nm <5mW
Quartet 4-in-1 630-680nm <1mW

AtlasNova 635nm <5mW
MillionAccessories 532nm <5mW broken
M462 462nm one of a kind (in progress)
PLTB450B 450nm 1913mW G2 lens
PL520 520nm 82mW acrylic lens
S06J 12X 405nm 590mW G2 lens
C6 M140 445nm 1.5W 3 element lens
9mm 445nm with G2 lens in a stainless steel host
Radiant Electronics X4 3.7W Laser Power Meter


Everyone please post here: Countries of LPF. Where are you? <link>
___________________________________________
The light that shines twice as bright burns half as long.
Pi R Squared is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2014, 03:05 PM #3
Alaskan's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Alaskan Alaskan is offline
Class 4 Laser
Alaskan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

Thank you, I've never seen that thread before and helpful, but I still wonder what the product is when having several diodes aimed into one lens, maybe the problem is the wavelength troughs don't line up right and you get plus and minus distortions and end up with a very out of phase product, collimated, but out of phase. I'd sure like to see what happens but was hoping someone has done it, maybe save me the trouble of building one to see.
__________________

The forum costs more to run than donations received, if you wish to help click this link: http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm

Laser Safety: http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Sam's Laser FAQ: Sam's Laser FAQ: Welcome Page

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

To shorten my signature I have moved most of my laser related web links to this forum page, the second post in that thread shows most of my builds... Alaskan's Laser Links: http://laserpointerforums.com/f44/al...ml#post1449395


Sincerely investigate any of these three short quotes as new concepts and you've taken your first step into a larger world:

"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness..." - Max Planck. "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real" - Neils Bohr. "What we call physical things and events do not exist independently of subjective experience..." - Deepak Chopra.

Each of these three rabbit holes go deep, ending up in the same place.

Useless troll fighting.
.........................
PhotoB****t high jacking you too? Use this link instead:
http://imgbb.com

High resolution of my avatar: https://ibb.co/fWOhXF
Alaskan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2014, 05:16 PM #4
Pi R Squared's Avatar
Class 3B Laser
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Snohomish County Washington, US
Posts: 3,798
Rep Power: 3794
Pi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond repute
Pi R Squared Pi R Squared is offline
Class 3B Laser
Pi R Squared's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2013
Location: Snohomish County Washington, US
Posts: 3,798
Rep Power: 3794
Pi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond reputePi R Squared has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

The beams would be a small distance apart, I think you would get multiple dots, better to properly knife edge them creating one larger beam and then use a lens, as is a common practice. You do get a single beam that can be focused, its just a larger beam.

Alan
__________________
Keychain 650nm <5mW
Quartet 4-in-1 630-680nm <1mW

AtlasNova 635nm <5mW
MillionAccessories 532nm <5mW broken
M462 462nm one of a kind (in progress)
PLTB450B 450nm 1913mW G2 lens
PL520 520nm 82mW acrylic lens
S06J 12X 405nm 590mW G2 lens
C6 M140 445nm 1.5W 3 element lens
9mm 445nm with G2 lens in a stainless steel host
Radiant Electronics X4 3.7W Laser Power Meter


Everyone please post here: Countries of LPF. Where are you? <link>
___________________________________________
The light that shines twice as bright burns half as long.
Pi R Squared is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2014, 05:22 PM #5
ARG's Avatar
ARG ARG is offline
Super Moderator
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,987
Rep Power: 1891
ARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond repute
ARG ARG is offline
Super Moderator
ARG's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Canada
Posts: 6,987
Rep Power: 1891
ARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond reputeARG has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

If the beams don't enter the collimation lens at the same angle they will not exit at the same angle. You'll have to overlap the beams somehow before the collimation.
ARG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-02-2014, 05:42 PM #6
upaa27's Avatar
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 624
Rep Power: 191
upaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond repute
upaa27 upaa27 is offline
Class 2M Laser
upaa27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 624
Rep Power: 191
upaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

You can use a bigger lense and focus the light into a fiber cable. Also provide a connection between the diodes and the cable so that there is minimal power loss. I would use an ytterbium doped cable for max output in the ir range but I do not know what wavelength the input will be. Don't forget to slap on a focusing optic at the end of the cable!

Can you tell what diodes you are using?

Last edited by upaa27; 08-02-2014 at 05:48 PM.
upaa27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2014, 04:25 AM #7
Alaskan's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Alaskan Alaskan is offline
Class 4 Laser
Alaskan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

I have some interest in doing this with IR, but also with blue laser diodes too, if some method will work. I was wondering if the light from several raw uncollimated diodes each falling upon the same area of a collimating lens (all producing overlapping wide spots on a single PCX lens) will roughly combine into a single collimated beam, once going through that lens. Somewhat distorted or not with interference patterns or not, my goal is to make a long throw flashlight with minimal divergence yet a big fat beam of a few inches in diameter for as long a distance as I can keep it like that.

If I can get a powerful enough beam by combining the raw output of several laser diodes then I will work on making a beam expander to both widen the beam while reducing the divergence at the same time, if combining power together like this is technically possible while continuing to maintain a high level of coherence.

Can something like this work? Anyone?

I haven't selected diodes for this yet, but I do have a large number of M140 blue laser diodes (over 30) which will likely be the ones used. Damn, I worked 45 minutes on this post trying to word this right, my momma always said I was her special boy, I guess she was right because I feel so low IQ'd on this.
__________________

The forum costs more to run than donations received, if you wish to help click this link: http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm

Laser Safety: http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Sam's Laser FAQ: Sam's Laser FAQ: Welcome Page

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

To shorten my signature I have moved most of my laser related web links to this forum page, the second post in that thread shows most of my builds... Alaskan's Laser Links: http://laserpointerforums.com/f44/al...ml#post1449395


Sincerely investigate any of these three short quotes as new concepts and you've taken your first step into a larger world:

"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness..." - Max Planck. "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real" - Neils Bohr. "What we call physical things and events do not exist independently of subjective experience..." - Deepak Chopra.

Each of these three rabbit holes go deep, ending up in the same place.

Useless troll fighting.
.........................
PhotoB****t high jacking you too? Use this link instead:
http://imgbb.com

High resolution of my avatar: https://ibb.co/fWOhXF

Last edited by Alaskan; 08-03-2014 at 06:11 AM. Reason: Trying to word this right
Alaskan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2014, 06:16 AM #8
upaa27's Avatar
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 624
Rep Power: 191
upaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond repute
upaa27 upaa27 is offline
Class 2M Laser
upaa27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 624
Rep Power: 191
upaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

That should definitely work but all the loss would make it more efficient to just use a single diode and unfocus the lense a bit.

Lol all I do is research lasers now -_-

I need to go out more often.
upaa27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2014, 06:25 AM #9
Alaskan's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Alaskan Alaskan is offline
Class 4 Laser
Alaskan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

What will cause so much loss? Cancellation from out of phase energy?
__________________

The forum costs more to run than donations received, if you wish to help click this link: http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm

Laser Safety: http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Sam's Laser FAQ: Sam's Laser FAQ: Welcome Page

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

To shorten my signature I have moved most of my laser related web links to this forum page, the second post in that thread shows most of my builds... Alaskan's Laser Links: http://laserpointerforums.com/f44/al...ml#post1449395


Sincerely investigate any of these three short quotes as new concepts and you've taken your first step into a larger world:

"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness..." - Max Planck. "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real" - Neils Bohr. "What we call physical things and events do not exist independently of subjective experience..." - Deepak Chopra.

Each of these three rabbit holes go deep, ending up in the same place.

Useless troll fighting.
.........................
PhotoB****t high jacking you too? Use this link instead:
http://imgbb.com

High resolution of my avatar: https://ibb.co/fWOhXF
Alaskan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2014, 06:48 AM #10
upaa27's Avatar
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 624
Rep Power: 191
upaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond repute
upaa27 upaa27 is offline
Class 2M Laser
upaa27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 624
Rep Power: 191
upaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

I don't really know what cancellation from phase energy is but basically if you are firing a bunch of unfocused diodes into a lense 20%+ of each diode's energy is going to hit the lens holder or module and not go through.
upaa27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2014, 06:55 AM #11
Alaskan's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Alaskan Alaskan is offline
Class 4 Laser
Alaskan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

I meant if uncollimated light from several laser diodes are all aimed at one spot, some will be out of phase from one another and cancel out. i.e., if a wave of light is 180 degrees out of phase from the light (at the same frequency) from another diode, they cancel and no net gain. I expect an amount of that will happen because each diode is slightly different and the wave fronts won't meet at the same exact phase.

Regarding the loss, I think I understand what you are saying but from my perspective it doesn't matter, you still loose the same percentage whether 1 diode or 10 diodes. 20 percent of 1 watt, or 20 percent of 10 watts is still 20 percent either way you look at it, you can't avoid it.
__________________

The forum costs more to run than donations received, if you wish to help click this link: http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm

Laser Safety: http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Sam's Laser FAQ: Sam's Laser FAQ: Welcome Page

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

To shorten my signature I have moved most of my laser related web links to this forum page, the second post in that thread shows most of my builds... Alaskan's Laser Links: http://laserpointerforums.com/f44/al...ml#post1449395


Sincerely investigate any of these three short quotes as new concepts and you've taken your first step into a larger world:

"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness..." - Max Planck. "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real" - Neils Bohr. "What we call physical things and events do not exist independently of subjective experience..." - Deepak Chopra.

Each of these three rabbit holes go deep, ending up in the same place.

Useless troll fighting.
.........................
PhotoB****t high jacking you too? Use this link instead:
http://imgbb.com

High resolution of my avatar: https://ibb.co/fWOhXF

Last edited by Alaskan; 08-03-2014 at 07:16 AM. Reason: I'm slow
Alaskan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2014, 07:24 AM #12
upaa27's Avatar
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 624
Rep Power: 191
upaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond repute
upaa27 upaa27 is offline
Class 2M Laser
upaa27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 624
Rep Power: 191
upaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

Very true. Have you looked into 1/2 waveplates? They might be able to do the trick. Also there will be little to no loss if you are only using a lens. Kind of like a standard laser just defocus the lense
upaa27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2014, 05:42 PM #13
Alaskan's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Alaskan Alaskan is offline
Class 4 Laser
Alaskan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

I guess you mean defocus the lens to make a wider beam, but I also want the divergence to be as low as possible. What is the relationship of a defocused beam to divergence?

I am just now looking into (googling) 1/2 wave plates and trying to understand the application such could have for this project, I'm not following on that yet.
__________________

The forum costs more to run than donations received, if you wish to help click this link: http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm

Laser Safety: http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Sam's Laser FAQ: Sam's Laser FAQ: Welcome Page

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

To shorten my signature I have moved most of my laser related web links to this forum page, the second post in that thread shows most of my builds... Alaskan's Laser Links: http://laserpointerforums.com/f44/al...ml#post1449395


Sincerely investigate any of these three short quotes as new concepts and you've taken your first step into a larger world:

"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness..." - Max Planck. "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real" - Neils Bohr. "What we call physical things and events do not exist independently of subjective experience..." - Deepak Chopra.

Each of these three rabbit holes go deep, ending up in the same place.

Useless troll fighting.
.........................
PhotoB****t high jacking you too? Use this link instead:
http://imgbb.com

High resolution of my avatar: https://ibb.co/fWOhXF
Alaskan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-03-2014, 06:53 PM #14
Cyparagon's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 9,141
Rep Power: 9321
Cyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond repute
Cyparagon Cyparagon is online now
Class 4 Laser
Cyparagon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Wisconsin
Posts: 9,141
Rep Power: 9321
Cyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond reputeCyparagon has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

Would you mind clearing things up by sketching your idea?
__________________
A problem well stated is a problem half solved.
Cyparagon is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2014, 04:53 AM #15
Alaskan's Avatar
Class 4 Laser
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Alaskan Alaskan is offline
Class 4 Laser
Alaskan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Currently in Iraq.
Posts: 7,050
Rep Power: 46257
Alaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond reputeAlaskan has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

My drawing skills are poor but I found a photograph which is somewhat representative of what I am trying to do, but I can draw one for you if this doesn't explain things well enough:

Looking at these three spot lights, see them as three laser diodes without lenses all aimed at one spot and that spot is the flat side of a PCX lens, wouldn't the light from all three combined make a brighter output and would that output have a limited divergence the same as if one diode? Before you start laughing, I realize if there was this much of an angle between each of the sources the output of the lens would have three widely separated focal spots of light, because of this I would put the diodes as close together as possible, all in parallel radiating into the flat side of a PCX lens with minimal angle between them.

Doing so, would this work to increase the power of the light if using several laser diodes as the source instead of one, maintaining a single beam with tight divergence regardless of the interference patterns which might be produced from having separate coherent light sources? I'm thinking it would but I cannot find an example of something built this way yet, not for use as a flashlight. Hope you guru's aren't laughing too hard anyway - I work as an engineer with RF, although light is also electromagnetic, it's a different ball game.

__________________

The forum costs more to run than donations received, if you wish to help click this link: http://laserpointerforums.com/donations.htm

Laser Safety: http://www.laserpointersafety.com/index.html

Sam's Laser FAQ: Sam's Laser FAQ: Welcome Page

RHD's Relative Perceived Brightness Calculator. Compare brightness @nm: http://lsrtools.1apps.com/relativebrightness

To shorten my signature I have moved most of my laser related web links to this forum page, the second post in that thread shows most of my builds... Alaskan's Laser Links: http://laserpointerforums.com/f44/al...ml#post1449395


Sincerely investigate any of these three short quotes as new concepts and you've taken your first step into a larger world:

"I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness..." - Max Planck. "Everything we call real is made of things that cannot be regarded as real" - Neils Bohr. "What we call physical things and events do not exist independently of subjective experience..." - Deepak Chopra.

Each of these three rabbit holes go deep, ending up in the same place.

Useless troll fighting.
.........................
PhotoB****t high jacking you too? Use this link instead:
http://imgbb.com

High resolution of my avatar: https://ibb.co/fWOhXF

Last edited by Alaskan; 08-04-2014 at 06:01 AM. Reason: Because I can't write well
Alaskan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2014, 05:16 AM #16
upaa27's Avatar
Class 2M Laser
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 624
Rep Power: 191
upaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond repute
upaa27 upaa27 is offline
Class 2M Laser
upaa27's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: San Francisco
Posts: 624
Rep Power: 191
upaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond reputeupaa27 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Multiple laser diodes prior to collimation?

You would have very intense divergence but it would work
upaa27 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply





Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On











Loading








Green Laser Pointers by Category Blue Laser Pointers by Category Red Laser Pointers by Category
Yellow Laser Pointers by Category Violet Laser Pointers by Category Orange Laser Pointers by Category
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes






Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use


 


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:50 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use
Copyright (C) 2017 Laser Pointer Forums, LLC