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Default LumenOS: firmware upcoming for Kenometer Pro's and more!

All of my development on LumenOS has been behind closed doors thus far.

I'm now far enough into the development cycle to where I'd like to show a few images and ask for input from potential buyers and users.

So, when you boot the meter you get this screen:



That's the main menu. This is point from where most of the functionality of the meter will be accessed. Let's go to the graphing screen:



The first thing you'll notice are the unused fields on the right. I have yet to write those in yet. Second, I'm not using the bar graph in this mode. When I was experimenting, I found that points were often easier to follow, depending on how a user configures the meter. You can also configure the graphing screen to display an analog meter:



Now let's go to the graphing screen configuration menu. Here's what you see when you open it (by pressing Config on the Kenometer ):



First off, you navigate menu items by using up/down. To change a value, press select and the highlight will move over to the item. Up/down will then change the value. I've introduced acceleration into the buttons - the longer you hold them, the quicker they repeat or the more value they add. Once you've changed the value to your liking, press select again to be able to navigate more menu items. Looking at the menu, Minimum and Maximum are self explanatory. Threshold is the minimum value that the meter will wait for before it starts graphing. This allows you to start a graph then have time to get a laser started before the graphing starts.

Now for the more interesting items. Overlap describes how many graph points get drawn per X coordinate. The lower it is, the faster the graph moves. If you turn it up you get a more filled-in curve, the graphing session lasts longer, and you get a really dense view of the instability of your laser.

The two values for Mode are Session and Stream. In session mode, the graphing area will fill up and graphing will stop. You have overlap values available from 1-100. In Stream mode, the graph area will fill up then begin scrolling. This is so you can be watching the power curve in realtime without a PC connection. Overlap values from 1-5 are available in this mode. If you have an Overlap set higher than 5, this mode will default to 5.

Now let's scroll down. In the last image, you'll notice a down arrow denoted more menu items. Now there's an up *and* down arrow. Oh joy!



The option labeled "Graphic" lets you choose whether you want an analog panel or a graphing area on your graphing screen. Scroll down again and...



Now you see the options to return to the graphing screen or go back to the main menu.

So... how does it look? Is this a step forward in the LPM world (I hope it is...)? Does it look intuitive?

Kenometer Pro owners, would you be interested in purchasing a firmware upgrade?

Any suggestions are welcome. Delivering what people want is really important to me.

So are all forms of criticisms, including trolls (disclaimer: must be hilarious).

Also, props if you happened to notice me in the photos on my laptop screen. I was streaming a demo, that's the view from my webcam.

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I don't know how the interface looked before and what features it had, but your
version looks mighty fine. Professional look, just what you'd expect to see on a display like that.

Maybe add some little scale markings (without numbers, just -) on the Y axis on the right side of the graph, close to where the "action" is at?
I trust you remove the "debug" feature from the release version?
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Are Kenom and MarioMaster and Things the original developers
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They're fully aware. When I took those photos I was actually showing a demo on ustream. I got quite a positive reaction.

TL; DR: yes.

It's a standalone purchasable upgrade... it's completely different firmware, it just happens to run on the platform.

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The new firmware looks a lot better than the original
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What's the price for the firmware upgrade...


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Is the projected selling price a secret.....
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I'd be interested definitely.
But price may be a limiting factor!

It looks easier to naviagate than the current software. With the current one you have to go through each item whether you are changing or not. It appears that one you can pick and choose what to change without having to go through the whole thing, is that correct?

I also like the graph or bar option.

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But price may be a limiting factor!

It looks easier to naviagate than the current software. With the current one you have to go through each item whether you are changing or not. It appears that one you can pick and choose what to change without having to go through the whole thing, is that correct?

I also like the graph or bar option.

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I've not settled on a final price since I'm not done with development. Probably between $30 and $50. It depends on how much longer it takes me and how interested people are.

How's that sound?

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I'll reiterate - if you're interested, you can drop me an email.

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I can handle that for a firmware upgrade. I was worried you were going for triple digits. That would be a bit too much.

Considering the meter works fine as is, you need to have a good reason for many to upgrade or it won't happen. But I appreciate the hard work and look forward to seeing the results.

BTW, dropped another PM about previous firmware.
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I can handle that for a firmware upgrade. I was worried you were going for triple digits. That would be a bit too much.

Considering the meter works fine as is, you need to have a good reason for many to upgrade or it won't happen. But I appreciate the hard work and look forward to seeing the results.

BTW, dropped another PM about previous firmware.
Noooo, no no. Not three digits.

When and if (depends on Jerry answering an email) this does come out, it gives you an extra usable digit of precision that is accurate below 1W. I'm working on a new noise sensing system that, if I'm right, will yield better precision in far less time. It will, of course, integrate the menu system and new features that give you more functionality than the old Pro firmware.

LumenOS will also be available for LPM manufacturers (Radiant Electronics, J.BAUER Electronics, I'm looking at you ) to license or purchase outright (in the form of source)... so you might see it on a non-Kenometer someday.

Concerning your PM... my latest from you is about cost, which I answered in my previous post. Did you send another?

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Trevor, as you know, I'd buy that for several tens of dollars.

Just waiting for it to become available..
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Yes I did, No go on my Mac.
Oh! This is about the other thread.

You'll need the FTDI driver:

Virtual COM Port Drivers

If you install that on your windows install in parallels (I'm assuming you use this?), then you can flash the firmware properly using the bundled program.

Do you use parallels or have you done any datalogging from your Pro at all?

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Trevor, as you know, I'd buy that for several tens of dollars.

Just waiting for it to become available..
Can't believe I missed your post. Thanks for the vote of confidence! I've been making strides forward on this in the last week or so; it's really coming together.

I've spun off a website to keep track of all of my development projects. Further updates on the status of LumenOS can be found there.

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