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I think you mixed up IN- and OUT-.

Otherwise, looks good. You can actually get rid of R2 and just short the pins together.

If it were me though, I would just connect the R4 output to the second op amp and take OUT- from the op amp output


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+ 6. and 7. Between 1K resistor.



I thik this is good! please check it!

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In this picture please write me OpAmp (ic2 lm358)
Used pins... because here is dont writed :

Is this that hard to understand?

You see in your other pic which pin is +In for the unused OpAmp. It´s Pin no. 5. You only need a voltage divider build by two resistors. Both can be either 1K or 5K or even 10K. Doesn´t matter. It only matters the +In gets half the voltage you feed the IC with.

The shematics is really simple: one resistor between VDD and pin 5 and the other one between pin 5 and VSS plus pin 6 and 7 bridged. So this costs you only two extra resistors to terminate the OpAmp correctly.
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I think i understand! Please check it!

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Yes, this will make it.
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Thank you brother!!! I make it but i now wait for lcd voltmeter and TEC modul

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You are welcome.

About voltmeter. You need something with a 0.001 resolution like this one:

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I ordered this two:

New 3˝ Digital Blue LCD DC 0 1 999V Volt Panel Meter | eBay

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be good, or not ?

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For the first one you need a DC/DC converter to feed it separately and make it work correctly. Or two separate batteries. If the secound one is using the same type of chip, this will be also necessary but there I´m also not sure it has a 0.001 resolution.

Most cheap LCD panels sold on ebay are lusing the same type of chipset like the first one you posted and need a separate power source. And most LED panels sold there do only have a 0.01 resolution.

The only exeption I found is the one I posted you. This one can be feeded by the same battery, has a 0.001 resolution and can be used up to 30V, so theoretically measure up to 30W. With this one you do not have to deal with DC/DC converters, bridging pads to move the decimal point and to exchange resistors to change to voltage range.

Only disadvantage is, it has no separate "-" in. But this is not really that important.

So better order the one I suggested you and use the other two for something else.
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I ordered this item!Thanks for advise! If I dont have on this voltmeter " - in " , is it enough to connect only from PCB " voltmeter out + " ? I think that the " - in " will be from power supply! what do you think?


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For the first one you need a DC/DC converter to feed it separately and make it work correctly. Or two separate batteries. If the secound one is using the same type of chip, this will be also necessary but there I´m also not sure it has a 0.001 resolution.

Most cheap LCD panels sold on ebay are lusing the same type of chipset like the first one you posted and need a separate power source. And most LED panels sold there do only have a 0.01 resolution.

The only exeption I found is the one I posted you. This one can be feeded by the same battery, has a 0.001 resolution and can be used up to 30V, so theoretically measure up to 30W. With this one you do not have to deal with DC/DC converters, bridging pads to move the decimal point and to exchange resistors to change to voltage range.

Only disadvantage is, it has no separate "-" in. But this is not really that important.

So better order the one I suggested you and use the other two for something else.

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I ordered this item!Thanks for advise! If I dont have on this voltmeter " - in " , is it enough to connect only from PCB " voltmeter out + " ? I think that the " - in " will be from power supply! what do you think?
Yes, that is what I finally did with this voltmeter, so the secound pot for trimming the "-out" isn´t in use though it´s still there on the pcb.

However this voltmeter is doing quite a good job in zeroing, so I´m getting something between 0.000 and 0.001 when no laser is shining on the TEC.

The "-out" is so to say left to connect a DMM when in need.
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thx!

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Zeebit wrote: Vmax is 2.7V.
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I already answered somwhere in this topic that this TEC will be fine. It has 6x6 junctions exactly like the TEC I used for my first LPM where the output is more linear compared to the other TEC with 7x7 junctions I´m using in another LPM.

So nothing to worry about the TEC. I also ordered two of them
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hello all,
i'm building this LPM too, but i'm a neebie in laser power metering, so i ask you:

1)
could you confirm me that the attached schematics is correct?
5k resistor will be 4k7 1/4w 5%
5k trimmer is not multiturn
10k trimmer is multiturn

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power supply will be 5v (or other)?

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also, are those components correct?
i've buy this TEC
TEC 6.6mm X 8.3mm Laird Compay
and this LCD meter
5 Digit DC 0-33.000V Digital Voltmeter

4)
is this pain right?
to paint the TEC i will you a black paint for motor (that resist heat).



thank you for your help!
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You could use a 9v battery for convenience.
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