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Why the companies like Rayfoss and O-like has cheaper prices?

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Is it because of the lack of quality or high divergence and shorther duty cycle etc ?
Can anyone explain it ?
 





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Yes, low quality, high divergence, short duty cycle plus a large sales volume combined with a small profit margin = more money.
 
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Yes, low quality, high divergence, short duty cycle plus a large sales volume combined with a small profit margin = more money.

Thanks mate.
High divergence,short duty cycle are not important for me.
I just wonder by saying low quality is it like it dies after some use or something like that?
 

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I wouldn't quite say low quality, just not as high quality as the more expensive companies like Optotronics etc.

Duty cycle has nothing to do with which company, just on the size of the heatsink. Like a Rayfoss torch at 100 mW is sure to have a longer duty cycle than an equal power Optotronics pen

Rayfoss and O-like are well respected sellers here, and if you order from them you are sure to get good customer service / products. But if you do want a higher quality laser that is a bit more well built, some of the more expensive companies are the way to go.

My lasers from o-like and Rayfoss are very well built and sturdy, I can safely assume most lasers coming from them will last at least a year if not more.
 
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I wouldn't quite say low quality, just not as high quality as the more expensive companies like Optotronics etc.

Duty cycle has nothing to do with which company, just on the size of the heatsink. Like a Rayfoss torch at 100 mW is sure to have a longer duty cycle than an equal power Optotronics pen

Rayfoss and O-like are well respected sellers here, and if you order from them you are sure to get good customer service / products. But if you do want a higher quality laser that is a bit more well built, some of the more expensive companies are the way to go.

My lasers from o-like and Rayfoss are very well built and sturdy, I can safely assume most lasers coming from them will last at least a year if not more.
I just want a lasting laser like >5000 hours
 

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5000 hours? I doubt anyone has a Rayfoss / O-like / Optotronics laser that has been used that long.

If I used my lasers for half an hour every day (on - time), it would take almost 30 years to reach that... :eek:

If you do order an O-like or Rayfoss laser, I can't guarantee it will last 5000 hours (I doubt any handheld from any company will), but as long as you don't drop or tamper with it (and follow the duty cycle), it should last you for a very long time, probably years.
 
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5000 hours? I doubt anyone has a Rayfoss / O-like / Optotronics laser that has been used that long.

If I used my lasers for half an hour every day (on - time), it would take almost 30 years to reach that... :eek:

If you do order an O-like or Rayfoss laser, I can't guarantee it will last 5000 hours (I doubt any handheld from any company will), but as long as you don't drop or tamper with it (and follow the duty cycle), it should last you for a very long time, probably years.
Hmm at o-like it says >5000 hours
Opto says Diode: High reliability n-Light IR diode: 80,000 hours MTTF with BriteLife Technology but dunno what is this means
 
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Both rayfoss and o-like and now maybe even netbox360 all have good quality, low cost lasers and modules. What makes them have such a low cost is that their mass produced, with very little quality control.
quality control is more up to the seller. On how he or she, represents what they sell. And how they sell it.

I have purchased more then a few modules from both rayfoss o-like and DX. It's always hit and miss. Most are OK and then their are a few that suck. More so from places like DX. What sets rayfoss and o-like apart is that they strive to make you happy. If you get one that seems under spec or has a problem, they will always take it back.

As far as longevity goes I have not had any modules or lasers from o-like or rayfoss die on me, some have lots of heavy use. The few that did have problems were apparent right from the start.

You really don't have much of a option to get anything better with out spending much, much more.

However Optotronics does offer a very fair price on their 532nm pens. They have probably the cheapest higher quality pointers. The plus with one of their products is that their guaranteed to be exactly what you paid for.
 
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80,000 hours is over 9-years of constant-on. :huh:
Yeah but optotronics is really expensive.I just buying it for fun like shining it to far away distances my house at top of the mountain and have very nice view so I bought binoculars and some laser stuff for fun hehe
Btw I'm curious about this "focus" thing as I heard it just makes the dot bigger when you turn it but not reduces the divergence is it correct ? (talking about rayfoss products)
 
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Both rayfoss and o-like and now maybe even netbox360 all have good quality, low cost lasers and modules. What makes them have such a low cost is that their mass produced, with very little quality control.
quality control is more up to the seller. On how he or she, represents what they sell. And how they sell it.

I have purchased more then a few modules from both rayfoss o-like and DX. It's always hit and miss. Most are OK and then their are a few that suck. More so from places like DX. What sets rayfoss and o-like apart is that they strive to make you happy. If you get one that seems under spec or has a problem, they will always take it back.

As far as longevity goes I have not had any modules or lasers from o-like or rayfoss die on me, some have lots of heavy use. The few that did have problems were apparent right from the start.

You really don't have much of a option to get anything better with out spending much, much more.

However Optotronics does offer a very fair price on their 532nm pens. They have probably the cheapest higher quality pointers. The plus with one of their products is that their guaranteed to be exactly what you paid for.
Hmm If I order from rayfoss can Faone check my item before shipping for any problems?
 

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I say you should just order it already, don't worry... coming from a trusted seller your laser will be fine. :D
 

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Btw I'm curious about this "focus" thing as I heard it just makes the dot bigger when you turn it but not reduces the divergence is it correct ? (talking about rayfoss products)
Well. When the dot is "big" the laser is focused (in) closer to the aperture and the divergence is huge. If you focus "out" (all the way) to get a collimated beam, the divergence is low, but you won't be able to burn as many things. Rayfoss lasers don't have great divergence like Optotronics or CNI lasers, but surely good enough for the price. :san:
Hmm If I order from rayfoss can Faone check my item before shipping for any problems?
That is what she does. She checks that the lasers work and are up-to-spec (sometimes above the mW rating) before sending them. Rayfoss has great customer-service. :beer:
 
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About the 5000 hour lifetime. there is a thread about that, but i cant remember exactly what it said. I think it just said the expected lifetime just shows the quality of the diode. If you really wanna know then i suggest you find the thread.
 
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I think it's pretty much about quality of the product you recieve, heck I've gotten lots of cheep lasers that didn't even work when they got here that is 000,000 hour life time LOL
It all boils down to one thing or the bottom line what ever you want to call it, it's YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR ! ;)
 
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I say you should just order it already, don't worry... coming from a trusted seller your laser will be fine. :D
Well I'm waiting 17th April then I will order.I will also do some review about it when it arrives.

Well. When the dot is "big" the laser is focused (in) closer to the aperture and the divergence is huge. If you focus "out" (all the way) to get a collimated beam, the divergence is low, but you won't be able to burn as many things. Rayfoss lasers don't have great divergence like Optotronics or CNI lasers, but surely good enough for the price. :san:
That is what she does. She checks that the lasers work and are up-to-spec (sometimes above the mW rating) before sending them. Rayfoss has great customer-service. :beer:
Nah I dont want to burn stuff just want to shine my laser to far away as possible.So it wont be a problem as it seems.Not far as opto products does ofc but still good I think.
If she is checking before shipping its really good thats exactly what i want really because i dont want to be disappointed after waiting for a week.

About the 5000 hour lifetime. there is a thread about that, but i cant remember exactly what it said. I think it just said the expected lifetime just shows the quality of the diode. If you really wanna know then i suggest you find the thread.
Hmm its theorically life time it seems anyways it means that it lasts for years isnt it.Btw thanks for the thread will look.
 




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