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Old 10-13-2010, 01:52 AM   #1
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So, just out of curiosity, is Priceangels and DX the same thing? Reason I ask is pretty much everything seems identical down to the processing backend. I've had a real shitty experience with DX not refunding me on a complete shipping fuckup on their end and I refuse to give them any more business. If Priceangels had no affiliation with them by some miracle that'd be super.
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So, just out of curiosity, is Priceangels and DX the same thing? Reason I ask is pretty much everything seems identical down to the processing backend. I've had a real shitty experience with DX not refunding me on a complete shipping fuckup on their end and I refuse to give them any more business. If Priceangels had no affiliation with them by some miracle that'd be super.
Do some google searches on the subject and learn.
I suspected this too a couple weeks ago and detailed reading of the priceangels site showed support email addresses of DX, so unless someone inside DX, stole the whole site and then forgot to change some of the email addresses, my money is on them being the same company operating under 2 or more names.
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I'm not convinced... DX will absolutely NOT ship to the USA
and will refund your money from the USA...

PA on the other hand says they have no problems shipping to
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But then again perhaps it's a ploy to get around the DX to USA
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So, just out of curiosity, is Priceangels and DX the same thing? Reason I ask is pretty much everything seems identical down to the processing backend. I've had a real shitty experience with DX not refunding me on a complete shipping fuckup on their end and I refuse to give them any more business. If Priceangels had no affiliation with them by some miracle that'd be super.
I don't not know their relationship, but it seems like PA has better customer service. I'm sure John, we be on soon (he usually gets on lpf around this time) and he'll probably comment on this
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I'm not convinced... DX will absolutely NOT ship to the USA
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From what I've gathered reading through google searches.
I think you're right.
They are run by the same company DX.
It seems PA sells everything DX does and has the same website, except PA will ship lasers to the USA (or at least says they will even though they still have the DX warnings), they also sell counterfeit Nintendo DS cards which DX no longer does.

I speculate that when PayPal & Nintendo came down on DX for selling the counterfeit DS cards and perhaps other things as well, DX got the idea of creating a copy of their website under a new name that sells the contraband items, at least until PA gets in trouble for it, then I suppose they may create yet another site still if one is not already in the works.
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To be honest both sites could be the same company. I whois looked up each and both are privately registered to the same company. Could be a coincidence (I use that company too). I took a look at their source code, they are fairly different. The sku's on products are also different. Lets look at 2 products that appear the same:
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The size listed is the exact same down to the 100th of an in. Although the weight, picture, and price are different.

I can't figure it out one way or another and I am really curious now!!!
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Having a lot of identical products indicate that they use the same suppliers, nothing more.
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Yes it is that simple.
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Yes it is that simple.
Hopefully, would like a clarification from them though. The identical ecom software/policies/other similarities are what makes you wonder.
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Hello, sorry for my late

To tell you the truth, many other customers have asked me about the same question.
Now I have two quetions for you firstly:

Do you think John and Andy are the same person, if they have the same family name, the same father and the same mother? Do you think Rolls-Royce and BMW are the same company, only because they have some relationship in finance?


We are the same, if you consider both of us have the same supplier.
We are the same, if you consider both of us want to provide customers with good products in the lowest price.


we are different, if you consider PA is trying her best to give better service to all customers, PA is trying to give the last hope to the customers who have lost their faith with DX.


After all, there is a long way to go for us to be as large as DX, as popular as DX. But I will try my best, john will always be reliable john, priceangels will always be reliable priceangels.


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Hey man, that's all I wanted to hear. As long as you only share suppliers, thats the only thing that matters to me. You'll be receiving some orders from me shortly. ^_^
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Hey man, that's all I wanted to hear. As long as you only share suppliers, thats the only thing that matters to me. You'll be receiving some orders from me shortly. ^_^

Thanks for your trust, and thanks for your understanding for that's all I can tell.

Don't forget to tell me before you order, then you will get some coupons, not too much though.
don't forget to tell me the order after you order, then I will make sure everthing will be Ok for you.

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Hello, sorry for my late

Frankling speaking, many other customers have asked me about the same question.
Now I have a quetion for you:

Do you think John and Andy are the same person, if they have the same family name, the same father and the same mother? Do you think Rolls-Royce and BMW are the same company, only because they have some relationship in finance?


We are the same, if you consider both of us have the same supplier.
We are the same, if you consider both of us want to provide customers with good products in the lowest price.


we are different, if you consider PA is trying her best to give better service to all customers, PA is trying to give the last hope to the customers who have lost their faith with DX.


After all, there is a long way to go for us to be as large as DX, as popular as DX. But I will try my best, john will always be reliable john, priceangels will always be reliable priceangels.


Thanks all


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Hi John,
Does this mean that DX and PA are related "like brothers" and that they have the same "father (owner)"?
It's hard to understand exactly what your answer is when your answer is given with more questions & paraphrases.

Please answer yes or no to these questions.
1. Are PA & DX related in any way besides using the exact same suppliers?
2. Did PA steal the DX website?
If PA and DX are not owned by the same entity, I see it very difficult to believe that DX would offer to give away all of it's sourcecode and hard work to a competitor (a company selling the exact same items).
A couple of weeks ago when I read the details of the PA website it still had DX support email addresses on their site that have since been changed to PA email address since I brought this to your attention a couple weeks ago; so we know the site is an exact copy of the DX with just the company name changed with minor changes to some product links and such.

Please explain this to us without using questions or paraphases.

I think when you asked the question
"Do you think John and Andy are the same person, if they have the same family name, the same father and the same mother? "
You meant that PA and DX are owned/created by the same person.
I do not have a problem with that, I just want and up front answer.
Like I mentioned before, I do have a problem with website theft and plagiarism. I figure if someone does not take the time to create their own work for their business and rather steals from others, they are dishonest thieves and care not about running an honest business, but about making a fast buck anyway they can.

If you just admit that DX and PA have the same "parent" then we will know PA did not steal from DX.
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Could just be that their supplier offers the ecomm integration software as a customizable package they roll out independently.
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Quite likely, different forums can use the same software/interface too, with some customizations. Many shipping companies use the AMOS maintenance and stores system on-board their vessels.
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If I remember right, Focalprice ripped off DXs site template, and did a huge DoS attack on DX last year. Maybe the template is common. After all there is no copyright in China.
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I think when you asked the question
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You meant that PA and DX are owned/created by the same person.
I do not have a problem with that, I just want and up front answer.
Like I mentioned before, I do have a problem with website theft and plagiarism. I figure if someone does not take the time to create their own work for their business and rather steals from others, they are dishonest thieves and care not about running an honest business, but about making a fast buck anyway they can.

If you just admit that DX and PA have the same "parent" then we will know PA did not steal from DX.




acctually DX and PA are not owned by the same person. For DX is a listed company now. That means thousands of chinese are owners of DX, but PA has only 3 owners, I am one of the 3.

Now do you think they are the same??

Is it possible for me to list the name of 3 owners of PA and the name of thousands of DX owners, then you can compare the difference, and decide whether they are the same company?

clearer now?

BTW, Will you try your best to find out who is the the owners of BMW before order one?
as far as I know, a customer will pay attention to products and service only.
So I guess you are not and will never be a customer, but a competitor.
Sorry for my rude.
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acctually DX and PA are not owned by the same person. For DX is an listed company now. That means thousands of chinese are owners of DX, but PA has only 3 owner, I am the one.

Now do you think they are the same??

Is it possible for me to list the name of 3 owners of PA and the name of thousands of DX owners, then you can compare the difference, and decide whether they are the same company?

clearer now?

I'm afraid you are a competitor of DX or PA, as far as I know, a customer will pay attention to products and service only. If you are a competitor, I suggest you to improve your service rather than attact your competitors, if you are a customer, you are welcome always by PA.

Sorry for my rude.
Okay that answers a lot of the questions. Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but what about the dx support email addresses on your site?
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Okay that answers a lot of the questions. Not trying to be a jerk or anything, but what about the dx support email addresses on your site?
DX support email address? I'm afraid you may make some mistakes.
Our customer service stytem is different from DX, and of course the email is not the same.

But now, there is something wrong with the email system, it sometimes losts Email. we recommend our customers to tell us their questions via customer service system rather than Email.
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I'm really not trying to be difficult, I'm just referring to this post (it's the second one down)

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I suspected this too a couple weeks ago and detailed reading of the priceangels site showed support email addresses of DX, so unless someone inside DX, stole the whole site and then forgot to change some of the email addresses, my money is on them being the same company operating under 2 or more names.
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I'm really not trying to be difficult, I'm just referring to this post (it's the second one down)

I'm sorry,I think you'd better check it yourself. To tell you the truth, PA has more than 100 competitors in china, maybe that's the reason .
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I looked yesterday didn't see anything, he said he looked a few weeks ago....that answers that (kinda)

It really wouldn't affected me if PA and DX were owned by the same people. I know that PA has a ton better customer service that DX and actually cares about their business/customer relations
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I looked yesterday didn't see anything, he said he looked a few weeks ago....that answers that (kinda)

It really wouldn't affected me if PA and DX were owned by the same people. I know that PA has a ton better customer service that DX and actually cares about their business/customer relations
maybe DX is too large to think of each customer of theirs. (DX have billions of orders every year, we only have millions) . It is a challenge for a company to become larger if they are large enough.

But DX is one of the best companies after all.
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I was going to order (UltraFire 500mW 532nm Back-Open Handheld Green Laser Pointer WF-502C) but I see that since I live in the U.S I can't!
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I was going to order (UltraFire 500mW 532nm Back-Open Handheld Green Laser Pointer WF-502C) but I see that since I live in the U.S I can't!
John has already stated that he just put that on the site for some compliance. He has no problem sending lasers to the US despite what the site says.
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