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he's referring to the fact that they are trying to rule out the 25nm difference between 445-470nm. Then he stated "thats thinking big for ya"

Sarcasm since its only a 25nm difference in wavelengths
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he's referring to the fact that they are trying to rule out the 25nm difference between 445-470nm. Then he stated "thats thinking big for ya"

Sarcasm since its only a 25nm difference in wavelengths
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and 25nm is a very very short distance.

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A question of practicality, are the modules standard size - that is, 12mm? And can the lenses be changed?
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and 25nm is a very very short distance.
It's not a small amount though, really. That's more of a difference that you'd see between a 488nm and a 505nm, or a 589 and a 612.
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This is a 470 diode. Why can't we just use aixiz modules or custom make a diode pocket/module?
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This is a 470 diode. Why can't we just use aixiz modules or custom make a diode pocket/module?
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as RHD said 25nm is very noticeable difference even with the naked eye

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Lets set aside the fact that it is not yet confirmed. My question is why can we not just take the module apart and replace it with out own? Even if the diode turns out to be square or rectangular which I highly doubt without some sort of sophisticated lens assembly. There should be no reason we HAVE to use the modules that the diodes come in... Right?
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Because this "source" isn't selling the diodes alone, nor will the "source" tell ABlaze where the diode is from. Comically, I think the module maker was initially claiming to be building the diodes themselves. I hope they've abandoned this claim by now.

IF these are 470nm, and IF we can find out what the underlying diode is, and IF we can find a source to order it from bare, then we likely could use aixiz module, IF it's a 5.6mm diode.

To be frank though, I don't understand why Ablaze hasn't told us who this source is. His stated reason for not wanting to do so was that the name and contact details for this source were a competitive asset for his business / project / start-up idea. But then I showed him fairly definitively that the prices his source was charging him for modules were 25 to 50% higher than what you could basically source the same thing for anywhere else.

So I'm not sure why the source hasn't been revealed to us at this stage. I think that was the initial deal.
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I'm sure he's not revealing it now because of it being the only possible source 'for the moment' of 470nm diode lasers. However.. this is a chinese company we're talking about. When they figure out they have something special.. If these are 470nm.. it won't take long for them to start advertising... in which case it won't be a 'secret' for very long. All anybody would have to do would be google. Though as pricey as these are, I doubt ablaze will find a huge market for them here. At 80mw tops.. the 'burning kids' will have no real interest in these when they can get 20x the power for less money, and there aren't really that many 'wavelength collectors' with deep pockets around any more.

And also.. the laser didn't show up today. So that means friday.
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Wow. Didn't show up today? Does the mail still come at the crackadawn there, Qume? With like, a mustachioed man with a hat and a sack over his shoulder, and a spotted dog biting at his pants-cuff, totally Norman Rockwell painting? Please tell me that Postman Joe also delivers to Old Man McGillacuddy's Farm. And that you know the local phone operator by name, and have pleasant conversations with her before she connects you to Betty at the Woolworths, to check if your tincture is ready?


Here, if mail comes by 1pm, that's early. Sometimes it comes twice. And they have to use a jeep.

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Lol.

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Because this "source" isn't selling the diodes alone, nor will the "source" tell ABlaze where the diode is from. Comically, I think the module maker was initially claiming to be building the diodes themselves. I hope they've abandoned this claim by now.
There is too much of a language barrier for me to even attempt a dialog about whether they are building diodes or just modules, and when I started this thread I didn't make the distinction. A lot of places online seems to call a module a diode and a diode a module. When I asked you rebuffed that idea quite firmly, which was really the original reason why I was asking in the first place.

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To be frank though, I don't understand why Ablaze hasn't told us who this source is. I showed him fairly definitively that the prices his source was charging him for modules were 25 to 50% higher than what you could basically source the same thing for anywhere else.
Honestly, I don't think a 635nm line module with an exposed circuit board can be compared to a fully enclosed 635nm dot module. In my mind those are two different products. I think that I could actually buy a 635nm line module without the fancy enclosure if I asked, and the price would be lower... but the back and forth dialog that would be necessary to actually determine relative prices for the same product is not worth the cost of breath.

I'm with the majority at this point: There's a significant chance that there is nothing new or amazing going on here. We'll find out one way or another what the output is in a short time, and if we find that it is a simple diode that you can get anywhere then all your attempts to strong-arm me into revealing my source will be moot.

I imagine it would be possible to purchase the raw diodes, but if they are 445nm diodes I don't think I will be doing that. I believe there is already plenty of places selling those.
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I'm fairly certain these aren't 445 diodes. They're possibly the new 450nm single mode diodes.. Aryntha has convinced me that there is a 'slim' possibility that they might even actually be 470nm.. But i'm still in the believe it when I see it camp heh. Which i'll know sometime friday.
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What?? Are you saying that 445nm and 450nm are actually different diodes? I thought it was just an approximation.

Do you have any info on this that I could look at?
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