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happytomato 03-29-2008 10:39 AM

Scammer List - READ BEFORE TRADING
 
LPF Username: ZANE

Real Name: Steve/Jeff Francoeur/ Steve Scaife

E-mail:69seth@live.ca
Note: Beware of any address containing 69seth

Scammer's address:
S. Francoeur
3910 30th ave
Vernon, BC
V1T 2G1
Canada

The swap he scammed me on: PDA for Green laser

Other claims he makes:
Z.S Francoeur
SVP- SENTEC
Founder- InZane Lazers

Traits: Communicates very nicely and often, just doesn't send anything. Gives a fake tracking number.

Odd things that generally are not traits of scammers: His ebay account: jeebus22, has 100% positive feedback. However, this may not be his eBay account.

See also:
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:a...ient=firefox-a
http://www.w-g.jp/wp/branch-wp.htm Some weird political orginisation he is member of
http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php...8567&rid=0 Some other poor sap he scammed

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On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:44 PM, - Spyrorocks - <spyrorocks@gmail.com> wrote:

Man.. that sucks,

You should have boughten from novalasers.


On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Steenburg Daniel H <Daniel.H.Steenburg@****> wrote:

Strange as he, if same one, went to Bryon College and graduated in 203. Looking for his phone number via Intellius.
Seriously doubt a police report will get anywhere!

thanks anyway,

I did have him at about 7AM PST on phone the first time before he gave me the tone after realizing who I was. First it was "You must have a wrong number" I said remember me? HE said yes and hung up!!!! Know he sold it to somebody after repairing that power button . Those soft ones on the top tend to get stuck. My new (3-17-08 95 mw Tech Laser Infiniti green laser doing same malfunction!!! Seeing if Tech Lasers will fix or replace it as 3 month warranty ) Exact date of purchase at home on PC email! Ordered a new one from there anyway as best price on that much power! Apparently he thought I had too many and wouldn't miss one by not contacting me nor returning the laser! If I Pay paled him 10.00 would just lose that 10.00 which we originally agreed to. Even had 2 AAA Lithiums to test it with.


Dan Steenburg

From: - Spyrorocks - [mailto:spyrorocks@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:43 PM

To: Steenburg Daniel H
Subject: Re: Laser gone!

Contact the police and let them know you have been scammed, and provide them with the address you shipped the laser to and any info that might help them.

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Steenburg Daniel H <Daniel.H.Steenburg@***> wrote:

Local one??? (Police report?)

From: - Spyrorocks - [mailto:spyrorocks@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:25 PM

To: Steenburg Daniel H
Subject: Re: Laser gone!

Yeah, he is defiantly trying to scam you.

Id file a police report.

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Steenburg Daniel H <Daniel.H.Steenburg@****> wrote:

Thanks!! I work in telecommunications for the Enterprise Computing Center MTBG WV.

Appreciate your reply and follow up.

Since I have all his emails I have a trail to at least present to whoever?

When he first exclaimed "you must have a wrong number" and then hung up after he suddenly "remembered" who I was (took him by complete surprise) it looked bad!!

Have a great day!

Dan






From: - Spyrorocks - [mailto:spyrorocks@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:49 PM

To: Steenburg Daniel H
Subject: Re: Laser gone!

No luck contacting him.

Id file a police report.


Also, be sure to post a complaint about laserben on www.laserpointerforums.com and X.com

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Steenburg Daniel H <Daniel.H.Steenburg@****> wrote:


Thanks!

Appreciate it. Had a feeling in my gut when he suddenly offered to do it
for free and had started that Spectra sales
But had no way of checking!


Numbers I found:

408-931-4836 No voicemail box set up
408-781-5439


Dan Steenburg
(securitycats on Wicked Laser forum)



-----Original Message-----
From: - Spyrorocks - [mailto:spyrorocks@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:04 AM
To: Steenburg Daniel H
Subject: Re: Laser gone!

Yes, I do know who he is. He's a shady character. I will try to contact
him and get his phone number for you.

On 5/17/08, Steenburg Daniel H <Daniel.H.Steenburg@****> wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> Hi! Wondering if you knew Ben Steigerwald (Laser Ben)? . He lives in
> Cupertino CA and had Spectra Sales. He offered to fix my 55mw Wicked
> Laser that had a stuck power on button. I sent it to him via USPS and
> emailed the tracking number to him at downhillriderben@Gmail.com.
> Afterwards numerous emails went unanswered!!! I finally found a
phone
> number, he claimed I must have a wrong number, got the tone and now
> just goes to an un set up voicemail message!!!
>
>
> Would appreciate any advice here!!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dan Steenburg
>
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From jake21:

LPF name: goldfingerfif

real name/address-

David Dougherty
7824 Woodruff Dr
Orland Park, IL 60462
United States

email address:goldfingerfif@hotmail.com *

i was selling my lap top on the buy/sell section he was interested in it so i sold it to him. he agreed to send me few high power lasers and some extra things. i emailed him almost every day and im still to this day asking did he ship my items but no response, he hasn't been on here in a while I'm just letting every one no that he scammed me.

Ifrgtmyname 03-29-2008 10:56 AM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
Well i've left him -ve feedback but if the trade does go through I will remove it

happytomato 03-29-2008 11:09 AM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
Yeah, I doubt the trade will go through, it's been a while. If it doesn't come by monday, he'll be banned.

john_lawson 03-29-2008 12:02 PM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
you know what i'd like to do to a person that is a scam artist if I could and not get caught >:( >:( >:( ;) ;)

jake21 03-29-2008 12:46 PM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
cool thanks for the heads up, im exposed to trade him a driver for a diode ill see how it goes ;)

happytomato 03-29-2008 01:35 PM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
To John: Yeah, scammers suck.
To jake: Good luck!

Kenom 03-29-2008 04:24 PM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
I've been following this all along and it truly saddens me to see. If this is going to be a reality an issue he'll get a reputation just like tommy green.

SMIDSY 03-29-2008 05:29 PM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
:o :o :o

He was supposed to be sending me IR filters!

Ill let you know if they arrive...

LOL he has my home address...

are we sure about this?

Razako 03-29-2008 06:59 PM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by happytomato
Note to mods: Please sticky!

LPF Username: ZANE

Real Name: Steve/Jeff Francoeur

E-mail:69seth@live.ca
Note: Beware of any address containing 69seth

Scammer's address:
S. Francoeur
3910 30th ave
Vernon, BC
V1T 2G1
Canada

The swap he scammed me on: PDA for Green laser

Other claims he makes:
Z.S Francoeur
SVP- SENTEC
Founder- InZane Lazers

Traits: Communicates very nicely and often, just doesn't send anything. Gives a fake tracking number.

Odd things that generally are not traits of scammers: His ebay account: jeebus22, has 100% positive feedback. However, this may not be his eBay account.

See also:
http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:a...ient=firefox-a
http://www.w-g.jp/wp/branch-wp.htm Some weird political orginisation he is member of
http://forums.watchnet.com/index.php...8567&rid=0 Some other poor sap he scammed

PM Log:
ZANE
: I have a few - might be willing to part with one.
Can you send some photos of your phone to me - 69seth@live.ca, and tell me what type of laser you are looking for? (lab or handheld), what type of mW you'd like to see.

ZANE: http://laserglow.com/index.php?hercules

I have one of these and its pushing about 250mW Id be willing to trade

Also- if your in the market for a blue lab laser I have these on my auctions
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...cSELL.m315.lVI

Have a look at my other auction for lasers too (100mW greens)

ZANE: Im Located in British Columbia- Canada
The laser is in excellent condition, and even though I have had it a while it has less than 14 hours of run time. It comes with security key, external power supply, aluminum carrying case, Ill even throw in a set of rechargable lithiums and charger. I take very good care of my units and I suppose you could consider this "like new". Personally- I have never had any problems with the unit, so Ive had no need to use their tech. support so to be honest I dont know. But- I have heard many others say that they are excellent in customer service.
So- is this phone new?

ZANE: Sounds great! Do we have a deal then?
Also- did you have a look at my auctions? Any of those interest you?

You can email me directly - 69seth@live.ca and we'll hammer out the details. Dont worry about taking photos- Im sure the phone is fine.



Note to ZANE: If, for some reason I have completely got "the wrong end of the stick" and you have infact sent the laser, tell me, and I will promptly remove this post.

Since when does a Herc use li-ions?
"Ill even throw in a set of rechargable lithiums and charger"
Herc 250mw =/=an RPL.

Kenom 03-29-2008 07:11 PM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
no this is not a for sure. but it's really beginning to look this way.

happytomato 03-29-2008 07:42 PM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
Fortunately, i'm pretty sure my mobile phone insurance includes fraud.

Razako: I noticed that too!

Amnizu 03-29-2008 11:37 PM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jake21
Cool, thanks for the heads up, I'm SUPPOSED to trade him a driver for a diode, I'll see how it goes. ;)


natabata 03-29-2008 11:48 PM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
uh Amnizu do you have a bot :P running that atomatically corrects everyones posts?

jake21 03-29-2008 11:52 PM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
i think it kinda annoying lol

Curiously_Coherent 03-30-2008 03:04 AM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 

This is the same grifter that tried to foist that "replica" Rolex watch a while back. He was also friends with the guy trying to sell the "white" laser pointer, I recall. These types usually travel in pairs to reinforce each other's stories.

You'll also notice that the guy was all over the forum kissing ass and being generally obsequious to anyone he could. This is the "confidence" that we normally shorten to "con"... as in "con man". The guy could bullshit a nun out of her habit.

I'm really sorry to hear that someone got taken. If he follows through with usual grifter behaviour, he might even quickly ship you the product and then return here acting all slandered and hurt, to lure in another couple of marks.

I'll pass his address along to an associate of mine at CSIS if you never get your promised goods, but he's probably moved on by now if he's the pro I think he is. Remember his behaviour while he was here and maybe we can help prevent others from being scammed in the future.

My condolences happytomato. :(

CC

happytomato 03-31-2008 09:13 AM

Re: Scammer Alert !
 
I'm pretty sure he's moved on. he hasn't answered my e-mails. Bump. This needs to be stickied.


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