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Default Scammed out of a 55mW WickedLaser by LaserBen

Heres a correspondence I had with an unfortunate guy.... Thought id post it here for anyone thats interested.

Newest Emails first, so scroll to the bottom of the post and read up.

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* * * *On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:44 PM, - Spyrorocks - <spyrorocks@gmail.com> wrote:

* * * * * *Man.. that sucks,

* * * * * *You should have boughten from novalasers.


* * * * * *On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Steenburg Daniel H <Daniel.H.Steenburg@****> wrote:

* * * * * * * *Strange as he, if same one, went to Bryon College and graduated in 203. Looking for his phone number via Intellius.
* * * * * * * *Seriously doubt a police report will get anywhere!
* * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * *thanks anyway,
* * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * *I did have him at about 7AM PST on phone the first time before he gave me the tone after realizing who I was. First it was "You must have a wrong number" I said remember me? HE said yes and hung up!!!! Know he sold it to somebody after repairing that *power button . Those soft ones on the top tend to get stuck. My new (3-17-08 *95 mw Tech Laser Infiniti green laser doing same malfunction!!! *Seeing if Tech Lasers will fix or replace it as 3 month warranty ) Exact date of purchase at home on PC email! * Ordered a new one from there anyway as best price on that much power! *Apparently he thought I had too many and wouldn't miss one by not contacting me nor returning the laser! *If I Pay paled him 10.00 would just lose that 10.00 *which we originally agreed to. *Even had 2 AAA Lithiums to test it with.
* * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * *Dan Steenburg

* * * * * * * *From: - Spyrorocks - [mailto:spyrorocks@gmail.com]
* * * * * * * *Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:43 PM

* * * * * * * *To: Steenburg Daniel H
* * * * * * * *Subject: Re: Laser gone!

* * * * * * * *Contact the police and let them know you have been scammed, and provide them with the address you shipped the laser to and any info that might help them.

* * * * * * * *On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Steenburg Daniel H <Daniel.H.Steenburg@***> wrote:

* * * * * * * * * *Local one??? (Police report?)

* * * * * * * * * *From: - Spyrorocks - [mailto:spyrorocks@gmail.com]
* * * * * * * * * *Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:25 PM

* * * * * * * * * *To: Steenburg Daniel H
* * * * * * * * * *Subject: Re: Laser gone!

* * * * * * * * * *Yeah, he is defiantly trying to scam you.

* * * * * * * * * *Id file a police report.

* * * * * * * * * *On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 1:20 PM, Steenburg Daniel H <Daniel.H.Steenburg@****> wrote:

* * * * * * * * * * * *Thanks!! *I work in telecommunications for the Enterprise Computing Center MTBG WV.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * *Appreciate your reply and follow up.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * *Since I have all his emails I have a trail to at least present to whoever?
* * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * *When he first exclaimed "you must have a wrong number" and then hung up after he suddenly "remembered" who I was (took him by complete surprise) *it looked bad!!
* * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * *Have a great day!
* * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * *Dan
* * * * * * * * * * * *

* * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * *
* * * * * * * * * * * *

* * * * * * * * * * * *From: - Spyrorocks - [mailto:spyrorocks@gmail.com]
* * * * * * * * * * * *Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 3:49 PM

* * * * * * * * * * * *To: Steenburg Daniel H
* * * * * * * * * * * *Subject: Re: Laser gone!

* * * * * * * * * * * *No luck contacting him.

* * * * * * * * * * * *Id file a police report.


* * * * * * * * * * * *Also, be sure to post a complaint about laserben on www.laserpointerforums.com and ************.com

* * * * * * * * * * * *On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 12:44 PM, Steenburg Daniel H <Daniel.H.Steenburg@****> wrote:


* * * * * * * * * * * * * *Thanks!

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *Appreciate it. Had a feeling in my gut when he suddenly offered to do it
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *for free and had started that Spectra sales
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *But had no way of checking!


* * * * * * * * * * * * * *Numbers I found:

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *408-931-4836 *No voicemail box set up
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *408-781-5439


* * * * * * * * * * * * * *Dan Steenburg
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *(securitycats on Wicked Laser forum)



* * * * * * * * * * * * * *-----Original Message-----
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *From: - Spyrorocks - [mailto:spyrorocks@gmail.com]
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 12:04 AM
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *To: Steenburg Daniel H
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *Subject: Re: Laser gone!

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *Yes, I do know who he is. He's a shady character. I will try to contact
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *him and get his phone number for you.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * *On 5/17/08, Steenburg Daniel H <Daniel.H.Steenburg@****> wrote:
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *> Brad,
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *> Hi! Wondering if you knew Ben Steigerwald (Laser Ben)? . He lives in
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *> Cupertino CA and had Spectra Sales. He offered to fix my 55mw Wicked
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *> Laser that had a stuck power on button. I sent it to him via USPS and
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *> emailed the tracking number to him at downhillriderben@Gmail.com.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *> Afterwards numerous emails went unanswered!!! * I finally found a
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *phone
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *> number, he claimed I must have a wrong number, got the tone and now
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *> just goes to an un set up voicemail message!!!
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *> Would appreciate any advice here!!
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *> Thanks,
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * *> Dan Steenburg
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Old 06-06-2008, 05:04 AM #2
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Gee - ya, let's give scamming asswipes like him and loserterd a chance though - let's not call them out, and prevent them from doing business cause SenKat is a big fat stupid head meanie guy.

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sif ur a meanie head, if you are watr am i, the hulk. i see something i don't like i fight about it. lol ie some one stole my spoon today, i almost broke his arm but he hit me so i was "seeing the red cloud"
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Default Re: Scammed out of a 55mW WickedLaser by LaserBen

Well It's funny when a prediction comes true.

I am sorry that you have been scammed by LoserBen. I have been around these forums longer than most of you and I know full well what he and a bunch of others are like.

You are all very quick to jump down Senkat's neck and accuse him of this or that, but there really is no substitute for experience.

Laser related forums have boomed recently and there is a great many new gullible people to rip off.

LoserBen and co have always tried to portray themselves as the elite in the laser world , with access to all the new stuff (cos Daddy apparantly has great contacts) and all the laser companies are falling over themselves to submit products for review.

The truth is, they would like to reel you into thier little dream, to make you think that you are in the elite, then just when you trust them .....Ohh I have been scammed.

Moral of the story: sorry you were ripped off, should have listened to the doubters that get flamed for trying to protect you.

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The guy who got ripped off has never even heard of LPF before, so I doubt he had much chance protecting himself.
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I too have had problems with LB enough to be pissed. I dont think he's a full out big time problem like good ol' tommygreen, but if someone compiles a list of a sizeable number of complaints, I'll get off my ass and have some of my friends in his area pay him/his parents a visit to discuss the situation. Don't wanna have to call in a favor like that unless we're dealing with a lot of $$ though, sorry.
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That sucks. I just tried to sell my 15mw EVO to some guy, and he said it was broken when he got it, so he sent it back to me. I looked at the laser and there was no way the mail could have done that kind of damage, it was obvious that he had tried to mod it without success. So even though this thing wasn't as expensive as a 55mw, I know how it feels to get ripped off like that. I'd follow spyros advise and call the police. You have all of his info after all.
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This thread has now become worthless with the above poster's input.
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Pseudonomen137- Maybe a school ID card would help you and your friends out...? ;D
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Haha, thanks styro. No prob though. I know a few people over at monta vista anyhow
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Default Re: Scammed out of a 55mW WickedLaser by LaserBen

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Pseudonomen137- Maybe a school ID card would help you and your friends out...? ;D
Thats awesome!! ;D ;D

That guy looks like a little punk. Someone track him down and scare the living sh*t out of him. If I lived in the area I'd do it myself ;D
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Default Re: Scammed out of a 55mW WickedLaser by LaserBen

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[quote author=styropyro link=1212724752/0#11 date=1212850759]Pseudonomen137- Maybe a school ID card would help you and your friends out...? ;D
Thats awesome!! *;D ;D

That guy looks like a little punk. Someone track him down and scare the living sh*t out of him. If I lived in the area I'd do it myself *;D[/quote]

please someone do it!!

for the sake of revenge!!!!!

then post it in my revenge thread hehe
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