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Old 04-19-2012, 10:58 PM #33
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haha that's awesome! You are the only one I know then. But you live in US :P



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"Compared to 95% of the market" Which market are you comparing yourself to? You can't compare to a professional company like Jetlasers or CNI lasers, because you are not one. You've got to compare yourself to other hobbiests and the prices they sell their lasers at (in which, yours are WAY more expensive)
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"Compared to 95% of the market" Which market are you comparing yourself to? You can't compare to a professional company like Jetlasers or CNI lasers, because you are not one. You've got to compare yourself to other hobbiests and the prices they sell their lasers at (in which, yours are WAY more expensive)
My prices are cheaper than a huge majority of the laser market. I work with individual customers to provide the best build for them, and my prices are guaranteed cheaper than commercial retailers like Wickedlasers or Dragonlasers, etc. Great lasers with true outputs at great prices, guaranteed.

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Stop spouting that -.- That's what all builders here do. You have no reason to charge a vastly greater price than they do just because you have a "pro shop" (which isn't even that).
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Did you not read my above post? You are not a company. You cannot compare yourself to a company. You are a hobbiest and you should compare yourself the hobbiest market. Any seller here could claim to sell lasers cheaper than a company.
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Did you not read my above post? You are not a company. You cannot compare yourself to a company. You are a hobbiest and you should compare yourself the hobbiest market. Any seller here could claim to sell lasers cheaper than a company.
Then sure they can. I have a unique build service, others sell individual builds. It's up to us to decide what to do with our life/time/builds. Thanks for your concern but things will go well <3

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Hey everyone - because he is making so much profit, I should be able to profit for much cheaper prices. I will start selling custom lasers for guaranteed 75% the price of Ryan here. PM me if you want to pay me in advance to make you a laser (much like he is!). Have a vet of over a year make you a laser! Someone will a lot of sale experience, guaranteeing long-lasting products!

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Hey everyone. Lets take a look at who you are buying from!

http://laserpointerforums.com/f52/lo...-c6-72892.html

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Alright guys, so I've finally completed my 1.8W 445nm C6! Technically, it's my 3rd try, since the first two failed :P
This member who now has a "pro" shop made his first laser THREE WEEKS AGO after failing twice?

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I would not spend my hard earned money to have a novice build me a laser. Buyer Beware.
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Hey everyone - because he is making so much profit, I should be able to profit for much cheaper prices. I will start selling custom lasers for guaranteed 75% the price of Ryan here. PM me if you want to pay me in advance to make you a laser (much like he is!). Have a vet of over a year make you a laser! Someone will a lot of sale experience, guaranteeing long-lasting products!

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oh myy... Are you mad because your "copperhead" hasn't been sold in 8 days but I sold 4 builds in a matter of hours?

Someone's butthurt.

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http://laserpointerforums.com/f52/lo...-c6-72892.html



This member who now has a "pro" shop made his first laser THREE WEEKS AGO after failing twice?

I'm not sure about anyone else, but I would not spend my hard earned money to have a novice build me a laser. Buyer Beware.
As I said, I've been on the sidelines quietly building for fellow friends as well as other places for the past month. I've invested over $1500 in this service and weeks of research in preparation for this service. A lot has changed since then, and all my builds, except the new ones, have loads of experience on them. I would never sell a half-assed build to a customer.

Now you're just trolling me hard.

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Something tells me that due to your intense vigilance against Ryan that you're either A) Worried he'll steal your sales, and you just can't handle that, or B) You're having a REALLY bad day. If you think his prices are high, then they're high, and he won't get any sales, and this thread will fizzle out and that will be the end of it. Don't sit here and hock your crap in his thread because that just makes you look like an arse.


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Something tells me that due to your intense vigilance against Ryan that you're either A) Worried he'll steal your sales, and you just can't handle that, or B) You're having a REALLY bad day. If you think his prices are high, then they're high, and he won't get any sales, and this thread will fizzle out and that will be the end of it. Don't sit here and hock your crap in his thread because that just makes you look like an arse.
My thoughts exactly.

In Ryans defence, he has racked up 40 rep in 2 months,
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Not trolling. I am just voicing my opinion on your "pro" shop.

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A lot has changed since then, and all my builds have loads of experience on them.
Yeah, like three weeks of experience?

I'm done here now. I don't want to get banned on false accusations of "trolling." I'm not slandering you, I am just putting my opinion out there for others to see. Good luck with the sales.

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Default Re: ★ Ryan's Laser Build Shop [POWERFUL BURNING LASERS] [Build Service] [High Quality

@Ryan - I'm not really all too worried about selling the Copperhead. I've sold plenty of builds - enough that I am a reputable seller here. That's why I haven't lowered the price any further. I am content to keep it before I let it go for less.

@Bloom - I am not going to be selling all too many builds in the future anyway. I am a bit worried about the FDA knocking on my door like they did to Moh for selling lasers. That's why I have my BlitzBuck entering mass production soon (already sold 20 boards) - so that I can pay for my laser hobby.

Point is, we have a lot of people here who just look on the B/S/T forums and are sort of noobish when it comes to pricing on parts. They see WL offering things for $1k, and they're like, wow, this guy is selling something for only $300? That's a steal! When in reality, he is ripping them off just as hard.

I don't want to see a bunch of people get ripped off, which will happen because Ryan is using rather... amoral tactics to attract buyers away from the more reputable and reliable sellers (again - not talking about myself - I haven't built a laser explicitly for sale in a while). Most buyers will assume that, because Ryan has a "pro" shop, he must be very experienced, have great prices, etc. He talks about top-quality things, and custom machined heatsinks, implying they are specially made.

He is acting like a business does, and this forum is not for that. If you want to run a business, open up a thread in the Companies Section or buy an ad. This is a hobbyist forum as it should be.

That's why I am "butt-hurt." He is attempting (and succeeding) at profiting off of hobbyists for seemingly pure profit-based reasons.

@gif: I get frustrated at people ripping others off. Like I said - I am not really selling lasers anymore. This isn't part of my income :P It's a hobby to me - I have a real job.

EDIT: Also done here.

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