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sightfx · 06-11-2009, 03:22 PM

Oh and I should have some more metal comming in tomorrow so I could have some ready as soon as Monday.

-SightFX

jayrob · 06-13-2009, 09:45 PM

Please give me a little more details on those bad boys! Those 'Adjustable Sled Mounts'...

Are the red and blu-ray ones a press fit for diodes?
How does the green module mount? Set screw?
Do all three have the centering 'nipple' that fits into the sled?

The only drawback I can think of, is if it becomes necessary to rotate the red or blu-ray diode...

Jay

sightfx · 06-14-2009, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayrob

Are the red and blu-ray ones a press fit for diodes?

Yes that is Correct. A direct press fit is the next best thing to 1 big solid diode with fins (ok peltier is better but for the cost...)

here is some information I put together on that:

Whenever two materials are in contact they have a surface resistance to what is called Thermal contact conductance. With Resistance being a bad thing here you want the fewest number of materials contacting each other to transfer the heat from your laser diode into the air. Other factors that reduce thermal contact resistance and improve thermal conductivity are surface area and pressure. These press fit heat sinks are an easy and affordable way to provide great pressure and ensure all around surface contact directly from your diode to the heat sink then finally maximized surface area contacting the air around it with these deep grooves.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayrob

How does the green module mount? Set screw?

yes the Green Module mounts with a set screw mount. This can also be done with Red and Blu Ray in an Axiz module if desired.

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Originally Posted by jayrob

Do all three have the centering 'nipple' that fits into the sled?

Yes the mounts are the same for all 3. I have made an improvement in that area that will allow you to screw the mount to the sled with a threaded nipple.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayrob

The only drawback I can think of, is if it becomes necessary to rotate the red or blu-ray diode...

I agree, I am hopping that the diodes polarity is the same depending on the rotation between all diodes or at least the same color dioldes. If that is true I wll simply mark where the square knotch and V notches are to be when you press the diodes in. I will do some experements next week with what I have and let you know. I would assume that the polarity will be the same but if it is not than an all set screw set and aixiz modules will be the solution.

Thanks,

SightFX

jayrob · 06-14-2009, 02:06 AM

Sweet set up... I will be ordering soon.

I just wanted to make sure of those questions. I think that maybe the 'AixiZ modules with set screw' may be the answer to the ability to rotate diodes.

Also, since you are custom making these. I wonder if I could get mine with heatsink/diode mount parts smaller in diameter than the sled mount part. (Maybe even the sled mount parts with a small flat spot) That way the sled mount parts can act as the 'base' or 'feet' to rest the entire assembly on. And the module/heatsink/adjustable parts will be just hanging on their own weight, with nothing else touching them. That way they will stay in adjustment...
Jay

sightfx · 06-14-2009, 07:55 AM

Yea Jay,

from your suggestions I have been making some of these just smaller than an inch and using a one inch washer for the sled mount. I found it to be too small for the set screw heat sinks. the bigger hole encroched on the adjustment screw holes and made the sink too slim in places. I had to make it bigger(1 inch exactly) I think the best solution is to put some sort of stand offs under the sled.

BTW the next version will not have this issue or the issue with rotation. It's only draw back is that it will not transfer heat away from the diodes as well so it is targeted for pocket builds and not meant to be high powered diodes running at long durations. It will only add about 1/4 inch to the width and you will get an adjustable mount and the same threaded nipple as the other mounts. (Threaded Nipple - sound like a dive bar in an industrial park)

Chears,

SightFX

jayrob · 06-14-2009, 03:01 PM

I'm leaning toward your next 'pocket sized' version... (either version actually, I just want to see what you come up with before I decide)

Great work!
Jay

sk8er4514 · 06-14-2009, 03:24 PM

I'm tempted to get a full setup ... not sure yet though.

-Kendall

jayrob · 06-14-2009, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sightfx

Thanks for the advice you two.

Jay,

Did you try turn the diode modules till you get the least side reflection when you installed them. I think the cube is polarized. I have been playing with the rotation and it seems to make a difference visualy...I can also see a dot form in the cube when rotating the module that grows and srinks as I turn.

Thanks again,

Ryan

Ryan, you are correct... I must not have turned my blu-ray to the best position on my first 7 color build. Because in testing my second sled, I can turn the blu-ray and get much less of a loss in power.

Starting out at 136mW's, and coming out at 105mW's through the splitter cube and off of the PHR turning mirror.

My next one will be much better, especially using your awesome adjustable mounts!

Jay

sightfx · 06-14-2009, 10:58 PM

I almost have the Prototype for Version 3 done. Version 2 is just a scaled down Version one and I am scrapping that all together because they are two hard to make. If someone wants the large heat sinked version I will make them a bit smaller but still over 1" I will also leave the size of the sled body mounts the same so they act as a stand. These are designed for those who need the extra heat sink for longer on times. (now I set myself up to test how long I can keep one on) Not with my 8X though

anyway I will send pixs of the new design when I get to Canada.

Thanks,

Ryan

jayrob · 06-14-2009, 11:07 PM

Can't wait! I'm sure I will be going for a full set of verison 3...

Could I make something similar? Yes, but why? That's a lot of work! And I think your price is very reasonable. It is a great design. Very good thinking that you made the diodes removable for replacement.

Definitely will need to be able to rotate for best power as well. So I am hoping for the AixiZ module/set screw design for my set...
Jay

sk8er4514 · 06-14-2009, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayrob

Can't wait! I'm sure I will be going for a full set of verison 3...

Could I make something similar? Yes, but why? That's a lot of work! And I think your price is very reasonable. It is a great design. Very good thinking that you made the diodes removable for replacement.

Definitely will need to be able to rotate for best power as well. So I am hoping for the AixiZ module/set screw design for my set...
Jay

ditto. sounds awesome. just ordered an O-like 30mW module for the green and will be building my own red and bluray modules

-Kendall

sightfx · 06-15-2009, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayrob

Ryan, you are correct... I must not have turned my blu-ray to the best position on my first 7 color build. Because in testing my second sled, I can turn the blu-ray and get much less of a loss in power.

Starting out at 136mW's, and coming out at 98mW's through the splitter cube and off of the PHR turning mirror.

My next one will be much better, especially using your awesome adjustable mounts!

Jay

Jay,

I have a question about the rotation of your diodes. Can you tell me the position the diode is in for the "Sweet Spot" you found. For instance with the Sled flat is the "V" notches at 6 and 12 oclock and the square at 9 or 3 for Blu-Ray? How about Red? I would like to see if the positions are consistant to help Rog with instructions as well as to see if the press fit heat sinks will be usable.

Thanks,

Ryan

sightfx · 06-15-2009, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sk8er4514

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayrob

Can't wait! I'm sure I will be going for a full set of verison 3...

Could I make something similar? Yes, but why? That's a lot of work! And I think your price is very reasonable. It is a great design. Very good thinking that you made the diodes removable for replacement.

Definitely will need to be able to rotate for best power as well. So I am hoping for the AixiZ module/set screw design for my set...
Jay

ditto. sounds awesome. just ordered an O-like 30mW module for the green and will be building my own red and bluray modules

-Kendall

Version 3 does take Aixiz modules so playing with the rotation works will be posable. I would still like to see if the best rotation can be "locked in" to make it easy for people (like me) who do not have a meter to test for the best. I am banking that the diodes all have the same polarity depending on the knotches. I am thinking they must. How do they build the sleds? If it isn't consistant they would have to use a meter every time and rotate... I doubt they do that but maybe.

Anyway Version 3 will be easier to build. I don't mind if anyone builds there own. This is a hobby. I only ask that people don't take them, Build there own from the same designs and sell them. At lease improve something. Of course I would like to re-coop some money to suport my own laser hobby costs but ultimatly it is about helping people be succesful with there projects. You can't stop some people from being shady though...

Thanks,

Ryan

jayrob · 06-15-2009, 04:52 PM

Ok... I don't have my diodes set up for my second build yet, but I did some testing using a PHR laser, and an open can build as well...

I wouldn't think the lens matters as much, but the PHR has a 405-G-1 glass lens, and the open can red has an AR coated acrylic.

After marking the position of the laser for best power through the sled optics, I took the lens out and noted the orientation of the diode.

So hopefully it is always the same. But I guess this is yet to be discovered...
Jay

sightfx · 06-15-2009, 08:54 PM

Jay,

Was that the orientation of the square notch on the back of the diode?

If so than it is the same orientation that I have mine. Actualy it is exacly oposite. I have square notch at 9 oclock which would be the same polarity. whether they are both vertical or horizontal. Oposite orientations will be the same. My red is on the same 9 oclock looks like yours is close to 3 again.

Ryan

sightfx · 06-15-2009, 11:41 PM

Here are some picks of what I worked on this weekend and today.

The one on the left is the original size. the ones on the right are all 1" in dia and about3/4" tall depending on your lense and adjustments.

I like these but they were so hard to make with the equipment I have. I am thinking of asking misterwilling what he can make them for. with his cnc mill and lath they should be easier to reproduce.

Here is the back of the threaded nipple mounts. I added a thin nut I made to the back side of two because I played with them too much and stripped the threads I put on the sled. I'm thinking it will be best to have them on each for the kit.

Here it is all together with the large heat sinks. It took me about only about 5 min to adjust them once they were all mounted. I will put a video up to show how easy it is.

Cheers,

Ryan

k1kb0t · 06-15-2009, 11:44 PM

Incredible, great work Sightfx.

sightfx · 06-15-2009, 11:46 PM

Thanks,

I know I promised pictures of version 3 but I am waiting on a tap so I can put it all together.

Cheers,

Ryan

jayrob · 06-16-2009, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sightfx

Jay,

Was that the orientation of the square notch on the back of the diode?

If so than it is the same orientation that I have mine. Actualy it is exacly oposite. I have square notch at 9 oclock which would be the same polarity. whether they are both vertical or horizontal. Oposite orientations will be the same. My red is on the same 9 oclock looks like yours is close to 3 again.

Ryan

Yes, the square notch is in line with the largest brass part of the module case. (I updated my picture above)

Ryan, those custom mounts really look nice! I can't wait for mine. I am ready as soon as you are!
Jay

Darkarmyofone · 06-16-2009, 02:57 PM

omg, cant WAIT for beam shots.

hell, if you AND jayrob are workin on this beast together.... it'l be done in no time at all i bet.

if at all possible, you should definately take a beam shot with the top part of the sled OPEN so we can see all the beams combining and whatnot. i think thats the only thing i didnt get to see on jayrobs pocket build, and it interests the hell out of me!

i may very well invest in one of these.

now i just want to verify, this is a PHR sled correct? or are you still using the PS3 sled?

MISTERWILLING · 06-16-2009, 03:22 PM

I like it. Probably the easiest way to adjust the optics I have seen.
I am working on my own version which will be more complex and not practical to sell to anyone.
I do not like using that polazrized cube, too much power loss. I am building my own setup from scratch using dichro's ordered from laser wave. When I get mine done it should be smaller then this setup with only 10-15% loss through the optics. Which would be a first for a pocket RGV laser as so far I have only seen ones using the PHR cube.
With my 8x Blu-ray @500mW , LPC at 300+mW and green at 100mW I should be able to get anywhere from 600-700mW of output, We shall see what melts with that.

jayrob · 06-16-2009, 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkarmyofone

omg, cant WAIT for beam shots.

hell, if you AND jayrob are workin on this beast together.... it'l be done in no time at all i bet.

if at all possible, you should definately take a beam shot with the top part of the sled OPEN so we can see all the beams combining and whatnot. i think thats the only thing i didnt get to see on jayrobs pocket build, and it interests the hell out of me!

i may very well invest in one of these.

now i just want to verify, this is a PHR sled correct? or are you still using the PS3 sled?

Everything PHR for the easiest. As MISTERWILLING has mentioned, and Ramsey_innovations as well, there are better optics that can be used. But for the quick and easy set up, a PHR is not bad at all... (the turning mirror in the PHR is much better than the PS3 turning mirror)

My next one will be using the PHR optics and I am anticipating at least 350mW's, maybe 400mW's for the white beam using a GGW 6X at a fairly conservative 180mA's and my 405-G-1 glass lens, with all PHR optics.

I get about a 20% loss through the PHR optics, so this will give me about 180 to 190mW's of blu-ray after optics...
Jay

MISTERWILLING · 06-16-2009, 04:08 PM

Yeah I am still using the PHR turning mirror, The numbers on its power loss were acceptable for me, but I was not happy with the loss from the cube. Although you have updated your numbers for the power loss through cube because your Blu-ray diode was not rotated to optimal postition.
I almost wouldn't have ordered the dichro from laser wave if I knew that it was that efficient but It's okay. They have a special dichro made just from blu-ray lasers with 98% transmission, so I will only really lose a tiny bit of power from the PHR turning mirror. Here is the dichro i purchased http://www.stanwax.plus.com/lw/dichro.html , its the only listed as 405 Bluray Dichro. Someone can look at that to make sure I ordered the right part.
I agree SlightFX has the best solution for the normal DIY person but since have all these CNC machines and lathes to use I might as well build a one of a kind high powered version (until someone comes up with something else). I am also machining my heatsink more flat than round and attaching them to a thin aluminum plate for more heatsinking. This way I can still get my version into my pocket. But in doing that I have to use a different system of set screws to align the lasers.

jayrob · 06-16-2009, 04:25 PM

Definitely this idea from sightfx would sell. I think...

Smaller the better with decent heatsinking, ability to rotate the diodes, and easy replacement are key for me. I'm ready to buy!

I'm just waiting for sightfx to finish his version 3 design. (He said that he was going to be talking to you by the way)

Anyway, this is the greatest idea from rog8811, and now with this kind of thing, that will hopefully become readily available, it could become a fairly easy build!

Jay

sightfx · 06-16-2009, 08:40 PM

I agree with small but I don't think you realy need an adjustable rotation. From what I am seeing it is a constant orientation to hit the proper polarity on the cube. With that said it is your option to get 3 of the set screw types but the heat transfer will not be as good.

Here are some pics of version 3. It is still in the rough stages but it is much smaller.

Adjustments will be made by 3 set screws. Size is the advantage here but heat sinking will take the cost for that. Heat Sink Grease can be use though to mimimize the trade. To ensure the adjustments pivote correctly there will need to be either a module sized spring pushing from the back or a lens cap holding the back of the module center so that the adjustments pivote and not strafe. The look will not be as cool but the cost will most likely be good as these are easier to make.

Cheers,

Ryan

06-11-2009, 03:22 PM	#26
sightfx Class 2 Laser Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montana USA /Alberta Canada Posts: 480 Rep Power: 14	Oh and I should have some more metal comming in tomorrow so I could have some ready as soon as Monday. -SightFX __________________ FS: White Fusion Laser Mixing Kit

06-13-2009, 09:45 PM	#27
jayrob Class 4 Laser Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern CA, U.S. Astrophotography! (Some of my Photos) Posts: 7,192 Rep Power: 303	Please give me a little more details on those bad boys! Those 'Adjustable Sled Mounts'... Are the red and blu-ray ones a press fit for diodes? How does the green module mount? Set screw? Do all three have the centering 'nipple' that fits into the sled? The only drawback I can think of, is if it becomes necessary to rotate the red or blu-ray diode... Jay __________________ Personal lasers: RPL 425, O-like 250, Evolution Pro 150, Nova X-105, Nexus 95, RPL 35 (473), GLP-473, GLP-593.5, HeNe 632.8, Many DIY red, blu-ray, and green builds... (now 445!) Looking for a DIY kit? Take a look at some of my more popular kits linked in color... * FS: 405-G-1 Glass Lens Mod for Blu-ray! 31% increase in power vs AixiZ acrylic! * FS: Parts - 12X Star Trek Phaser! Awesome 12X build! Must see my Youtube video linked in my tutorial... * FS: DIY Green Build Kits! Easy assembly in minutes! * FS: Pocket Mini Build Kits! 'HOT' option for FlexDrive installed! Click here for a list of my build kits! Projects and tutorials too! Last edited by jayrob; 06-13-2009 at 09:55 PM.

06-14-2009, 02:06 AM	#29
jayrob Class 4 Laser Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern CA, U.S. Astrophotography! (Some of my Photos) Posts: 7,192 Rep Power: 303	Sweet set up... I will be ordering soon. I just wanted to make sure of those questions. I think that maybe the 'AixiZ modules with set screw' may be the answer to the ability to rotate diodes. Also, since you are custom making these. I wonder if I could get mine with heatsink/diode mount parts smaller in diameter than the sled mount part. (Maybe even the sled mount parts with a small flat spot) That way the sled mount parts can act as the 'base' or 'feet' to rest the entire assembly on. And the module/heatsink/adjustable parts will be just hanging on their own weight, with nothing else touching them. That way they will stay in adjustment... Jay __________________ Personal lasers: RPL 425, O-like 250, Evolution Pro 150, Nova X-105, Nexus 95, RPL 35 (473), GLP-473, GLP-593.5, HeNe 632.8, Many DIY red, blu-ray, and green builds... (now 445!) Looking for a DIY kit? Take a look at some of my more popular kits linked in color... * FS: 405-G-1 Glass Lens Mod for Blu-ray! 31% increase in power vs AixiZ acrylic! * FS: Parts - 12X Star Trek Phaser! Awesome 12X build! Must see my Youtube video linked in my tutorial... * FS: DIY Green Build Kits! Easy assembly in minutes! * FS: Pocket Mini Build Kits! 'HOT' option for FlexDrive installed! Click here for a list of my build kits! Projects and tutorials too!

06-14-2009, 07:55 AM	#30
sightfx Class 2 Laser Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montana USA /Alberta Canada Posts: 480 Rep Power: 14	Yea Jay, from your suggestions I have been making some of these just smaller than an inch and using a one inch washer for the sled mount. I found it to be too small for the set screw heat sinks. the bigger hole encroched on the adjustment screw holes and made the sink too slim in places. I had to make it bigger(1 inch exactly) I think the best solution is to put some sort of stand offs under the sled. BTW the next version will not have this issue or the issue with rotation. It's only draw back is that it will not transfer heat away from the diodes as well so it is targeted for pocket builds and not meant to be high powered diodes running at long durations. It will only add about 1/4 inch to the width and you will get an adjustable mount and the same threaded nipple as the other mounts. (Threaded Nipple - sound like a dive bar in an industrial park) Chears, SightFX __________________ FS: White Fusion Laser Mixing Kit

06-14-2009, 03:01 PM	#31
jayrob Class 4 Laser Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern CA, U.S. Astrophotography! (Some of my Photos) Posts: 7,192 Rep Power: 303	I'm leaning toward your next 'pocket sized' version... (either version actually, I just want to see what you come up with before I decide) Great work! Jay __________________ Personal lasers: RPL 425, O-like 250, Evolution Pro 150, Nova X-105, Nexus 95, RPL 35 (473), GLP-473, GLP-593.5, HeNe 632.8, Many DIY red, blu-ray, and green builds... (now 445!) Looking for a DIY kit? Take a look at some of my more popular kits linked in color... * FS: 405-G-1 Glass Lens Mod for Blu-ray! 31% increase in power vs AixiZ acrylic! * FS: Parts - 12X Star Trek Phaser! Awesome 12X build! Must see my Youtube video linked in my tutorial... * FS: DIY Green Build Kits! Easy assembly in minutes! * FS: Pocket Mini Build Kits! 'HOT' option for FlexDrive installed! Click here for a list of my build kits! Projects and tutorials too! Last edited by jayrob; 06-14-2009 at 03:31 PM.

06-14-2009, 03:24 PM	#32
sk8er4514 Class 3R Laser Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Arlington, TX Posts: 1,727 Rep Power: 63	I'm tempted to get a full setup ... not sure yet though. -Kendall __________________

06-14-2009, 10:58 PM	#34
sightfx Class 2 Laser Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montana USA /Alberta Canada Posts: 480 Rep Power: 14	I almost have the Prototype for Version 3 done. Version 2 is just a scaled down Version one and I am scrapping that all together because they are two hard to make. If someone wants the large heat sinked version I will make them a bit smaller but still over 1" I will also leave the size of the sled body mounts the same so they act as a stand. These are designed for those who need the extra heat sink for longer on times. (now I set myself up to test how long I can keep one on) Not with my 8X though anyway I will send pixs of the new design when I get to Canada. Thanks, Ryan __________________ FS: White Fusion Laser Mixing Kit

06-14-2009, 11:07 PM	#35
jayrob Class 4 Laser Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern CA, U.S. Astrophotography! (Some of my Photos) Posts: 7,192 Rep Power: 303	Can't wait! I'm sure I will be going for a full set of verison 3... Could I make something similar? Yes, but why? That's a lot of work! And I think your price is very reasonable. It is a great design. Very good thinking that you made the diodes removable for replacement. Definitely will need to be able to rotate for best power as well. So I am hoping for the AixiZ module/set screw design for my set... Jay __________________ Personal lasers: RPL 425, O-like 250, Evolution Pro 150, Nova X-105, Nexus 95, RPL 35 (473), GLP-473, GLP-593.5, HeNe 632.8, Many DIY red, blu-ray, and green builds... (now 445!) Looking for a DIY kit? Take a look at some of my more popular kits linked in color... * FS: 405-G-1 Glass Lens Mod for Blu-ray! 31% increase in power vs AixiZ acrylic! * FS: Parts - 12X Star Trek Phaser! Awesome 12X build! Must see my Youtube video linked in my tutorial... * FS: DIY Green Build Kits! Easy assembly in minutes! * FS: Pocket Mini Build Kits! 'HOT' option for FlexDrive installed! Click here for a list of my build kits! Projects and tutorials too!

06-15-2009, 04:52 PM	#39
jayrob Class 4 Laser Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern CA, U.S. Astrophotography! (Some of my Photos) Posts: 7,192 Rep Power: 303	Ok... I don't have my diodes set up for my second build yet, but I did some testing using a PHR laser, and an open can build as well... I wouldn't think the lens matters as much, but the PHR has a 405-G-1 glass lens, and the open can red has an AR coated acrylic. After marking the position of the laser for best power through the sled optics, I took the lens out and noted the orientation of the diode. So hopefully it is always the same. But I guess this is yet to be discovered... Jay __________________ Personal lasers: RPL 425, O-like 250, Evolution Pro 150, Nova X-105, Nexus 95, RPL 35 (473), GLP-473, GLP-593.5, HeNe 632.8, Many DIY red, blu-ray, and green builds... (now 445!) Looking for a DIY kit? Take a look at some of my more popular kits linked in color... * FS: 405-G-1 Glass Lens Mod for Blu-ray! 31% increase in power vs AixiZ acrylic! * FS: Parts - 12X Star Trek Phaser! Awesome 12X build! Must see my Youtube video linked in my tutorial... * FS: DIY Green Build Kits! Easy assembly in minutes! * FS: Pocket Mini Build Kits! 'HOT' option for FlexDrive installed! Click here for a list of my build kits! Projects and tutorials too! Last edited by jayrob; 06-16-2009 at 04:29 PM.

06-15-2009, 08:54 PM	#40
sightfx Class 2 Laser Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montana USA /Alberta Canada Posts: 480 Rep Power: 14	Jay, Was that the orientation of the square notch on the back of the diode? If so than it is the same orientation that I have mine. Actualy it is exacly oposite. I have square notch at 9 oclock which would be the same polarity. whether they are both vertical or horizontal. Oposite orientations will be the same. My red is on the same 9 oclock looks like yours is close to 3 again. Ryan __________________ FS: White Fusion Laser Mixing Kit Last edited by sightfx; 06-15-2009 at 10:59 PM.

06-15-2009, 11:41 PM	#41
sightfx Class 2 Laser Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montana USA /Alberta Canada Posts: 480 Rep Power: 14	Here are some picks of what I worked on this weekend and today. The one on the left is the original size. the ones on the right are all 1" in dia and about3/4" tall depending on your lense and adjustments. I like these but they were so hard to make with the equipment I have. I am thinking of asking misterwilling what he can make them for. with his cnc mill and lath they should be easier to reproduce. Here is the back of the threaded nipple mounts. I added a thin nut I made to the back side of two because I played with them too much and stripped the threads I put on the sled. I'm thinking it will be best to have them on each for the kit. Here it is all together with the large heat sinks. It took me about only about 5 min to adjust them once they were all mounted. I will put a video up to show how easy it is. Cheers, Ryan __________________ FS: White Fusion Laser Mixing Kit

06-15-2009, 11:44 PM	#42
k1kb0t Class 2 Laser Join Date: May 2009 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 458 Rep Power: 4	Incredible, great work Sightfx. __________________ "Words when put into one form or another may unlock some ideal form. They need not, one cannot make another see he can only provide the stimulation that's helps the other to see for himself." - Plato, The Republic 405nm - Jayrob 4171 PHR w/ 405-G1 lens mod 660nm - Jayrob 4171 LPC w/ Meredith lens mod Transmissions - blog.kikbot.org

06-15-2009, 11:46 PM	#43
sightfx Class 2 Laser Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montana USA /Alberta Canada Posts: 480 Rep Power: 14	Thanks, I know I promised pictures of version 3 but I am waiting on a tap so I can put it all together. Cheers, Ryan __________________ FS: White Fusion Laser Mixing Kit

06-16-2009, 02:57 PM	#45
Darkarmyofone Banned Join Date: May 2009 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 1,405 Rep Power: 0	omg, cant WAIT for beam shots. hell, if you AND jayrob are workin on this beast together.... it'l be done in no time at all i bet. if at all possible, you should definately take a beam shot with the top part of the sled OPEN so we can see all the beams combining and whatnot. i think thats the only thing i didnt get to see on jayrobs pocket build, and it interests the hell out of me! i may very well invest in one of these. now i just want to verify, this is a PHR sled correct? or are you still using the PS3 sled?

06-16-2009, 03:22 PM	#46
MISTERWILLING Class 2 Laser Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 354 Rep Power: 7	vERY nICE I like it. Probably the easiest way to adjust the optics I have seen. I am working on my own version which will be more complex and not practical to sell to anyone. I do not like using that polazrized cube, too much power loss. I am building my own setup from scratch using dichro's ordered from laser wave. When I get mine done it should be smaller then this setup with only 10-15% loss through the optics. Which would be a first for a pocket RGV laser as so far I have only seen ones using the PHR cube. With my 8x Blu-ray @500mW , LPC at 300+mW and green at 100mW I should be able to get anywhere from 600-700mW of output, We shall see what melts with that. __________________ 5x Daedel DVD 22x Diodes 5x B0323 Blu-ray Diodes 2x 8x Blu-ray burner diodes 2x O-like 5~10mW green O-like 120~150mW green Custom machining available misterwilling@gmail.com Rog's 7 color pocket spiro: In Progress Last edited by MISTERWILLING; 06-16-2009 at 03:25 PM.

06-16-2009, 04:08 PM	#48
MISTERWILLING Class 2 Laser Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 354 Rep Power: 7	Yeah I am still using the PHR turning mirror, The numbers on its power loss were acceptable for me, but I was not happy with the loss from the cube. Although you have updated your numbers for the power loss through cube because your Blu-ray diode was not rotated to optimal postition. I almost wouldn't have ordered the dichro from laser wave if I knew that it was that efficient but It's okay. They have a special dichro made just from blu-ray lasers with 98% transmission, so I will only really lose a tiny bit of power from the PHR turning mirror. Here is the dichro i purchased http://www.stanwax.plus.com/lw/dichro.html , its the only listed as 405 Bluray Dichro. Someone can look at that to make sure I ordered the right part. I agree SlightFX has the best solution for the normal DIY person but since have all these CNC machines and lathes to use I might as well build a one of a kind high powered version (until someone comes up with something else). I am also machining my heatsink more flat than round and attaching them to a thin aluminum plate for more heatsinking. This way I can still get my version into my pocket. But in doing that I have to use a different system of set screws to align the lasers. __________________ 5x Daedel DVD 22x Diodes 5x B0323 Blu-ray Diodes 2x 8x Blu-ray burner diodes 2x O-like 5~10mW green O-like 120~150mW green Custom machining available misterwilling@gmail.com Rog's 7 color pocket spiro: In Progress Last edited by MISTERWILLING; 06-16-2009 at 04:11 PM.

06-16-2009, 04:25 PM	#49
jayrob Class 4 Laser Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Northern CA, U.S. Astrophotography! (Some of my Photos) Posts: 7,192 Rep Power: 303	Definitely this idea from sightfx would sell. I think... Smaller the better with decent heatsinking, ability to rotate the diodes, and easy replacement are key for me. I'm ready to buy! I'm just waiting for sightfx to finish his version 3 design. (He said that he was going to be talking to you by the way) Anyway, this is the greatest idea from rog8811, and now with this kind of thing, that will hopefully become readily available, it could become a fairly easy build! Jay __________________ Personal lasers: RPL 425, O-like 250, Evolution Pro 150, Nova X-105, Nexus 95, RPL 35 (473), GLP-473, GLP-593.5, HeNe 632.8, Many DIY red, blu-ray, and green builds... (now 445!) Looking for a DIY kit? Take a look at some of my more popular kits linked in color... * FS: 405-G-1 Glass Lens Mod for Blu-ray! 31% increase in power vs AixiZ acrylic! * FS: Parts - 12X Star Trek Phaser! Awesome 12X build! Must see my Youtube video linked in my tutorial... * FS: DIY Green Build Kits! Easy assembly in minutes! * FS: Pocket Mini Build Kits! 'HOT' option for FlexDrive installed! Click here for a list of my build kits! Projects and tutorials too! Last edited by jayrob; 06-16-2009 at 09:00 PM.

06-16-2009, 08:40 PM	#50
sightfx Class 2 Laser Join Date: May 2009 Location: Montana USA /Alberta Canada Posts: 480 Rep Power: 14	I agree with small but I don't think you realy need an adjustable rotation. From what I am seeing it is a constant orientation to hit the proper polarity on the cube. With that said it is your option to get 3 of the set screw types but the heat transfer will not be as good. Here are some pics of version 3. It is still in the rough stages but it is much smaller. Adjustments will be made by 3 set screws. Size is the advantage here but heat sinking will take the cost for that. Heat Sink Grease can be use though to mimimize the trade. To ensure the adjustments pivote correctly there will need to be either a module sized spring pushing from the back or a lens cap holding the back of the module center so that the adjustments pivote and not strafe. The look will not be as cool but the cost will most likely be good as these are easier to make. Cheers, Ryan __________________ FS: White Fusion Laser Mixing Kit

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