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Old 06-18-2008, 09:16 PM #1
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Ok so back in december jake21 and I decided to trade my 2 Lithium batteries and charger for 2 laser diodes.
I sent him his stuff, and he "claims" he sent me laser diodes more than once. I havent recieved any of them.
He opened up a Dispute because he sent me 30$ for a laser that I lost then i remebered and told him he owed me those diodes. Now my money source is locked and i can't do any transactions.

I took it to a PM at first:

me: WTF jake you opened a Distpute and your the one who owes me.

Jake21: i sent few diodes and ur keeping my moneyto, im dont think that fair i lost money 15 each on the diodes and 30 bucks for ur laser i bought and u never sent u suckered me in or u would of sold it to senkat

me: Well I havent Recieved any of those diodes, and i didnt sucker you,you were first to PM me so i was being fair. I dont think i should get screwed when you owe me diodes

Jake21:well its not rite to hold my money for any reason i would send u more diodes but i dont have any

me: I have every right to hold your money till i get what is owed to me

Jake21:ill just continue with the dispute

me: wow you are an a$$hole, I told you I would refund your money when i get what is owed to me

Jake21:lol, well thats fine because i dont have any diodes to send because i sent them all out, but i dont no what else i can do to get my money but to continue with the dispute

I need your help on what to do here



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Why would you have a transaction with someone that owes you money? And what do you mean you "lost" the laser, did it ever exist, or was it really lost? Technically you are scamming him of his money, and if he actually sent you the diodes, the postal service that he uses would be at fault, not him. If he really mailed you the diodes, he kept his side of the deal, I know it sucks when things get lost in the mail, but thats why you get things insured and with delivery confirmation.
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Why would you have a transaction with someone that owes you money? And what do you mean you "lost" the laser, did it ever exist, or was it really lost? Technically you are scamming him of his money, and if he actually sent you the diodes, the postal service that he uses would be at fault, not him. If he really mailed you the diodes, he kept his side of the deal, I know it sucks when things get lost in the mail, but thats why you get things insured and with delivery confirmation.
the Laser did exist. He said he sent out 6 diodes 3 different times. Thats a Lie. the post office wont loose things that often then right after i told him, he posted a red laser for sale a few days later.
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Did you pay for the diodes you never received? Really your getting a refund on what you didn't receive. Perhaps a signed delivery would be best for this kind of thing.

He isnt taking responsibility though, you cant say I sent it to you twice and you didn't get it, thats not my problem now. He sold you something that you never got, likewise you are doing the same thing apart from you are refusing to send until you get your parts.

You cant really not send something you have because you haven't received something that has already been sent. Perhaps it was lost in the post from poor packaging or stopped at customs for some odd reason.
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[quote author=iewed link=1213823789/0#1 date=1213824789]Why would you have a transaction with someone that owes you money? And what do you mean you "lost" the laser, did it ever exist, or was it really lost? Technically you are scamming him of his money, and if he actually sent you the diodes, the postal service that he uses would be at fault, not him. If he really mailed you the diodes, he kept his side of the deal, I know it sucks when things get lost in the mail, but thats why you get things insured and with delivery confirmation.
the Laser did exist. He said he sent out 6 diodes 3 different times. Thats a Lie. the post office wont loose things that often then right after i told him, he posted a red laser for sale a few days later.[/quote]


So the initial trade was 6 diodes for 2 lithium batteries and a charger? That seems like a good trade on your part, and I will agree with you that the post office wouldn't lose shipments that many times.
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[quote author=toked323 link=1213823789/0#3 date=1213824925][quote author=iewed link=1213823789/0#1 date=1213824789]Why would you have a transaction with someone that owes you money? And what do you mean you "lost" the laser, did it ever exist, or was it really lost? Technically you are scamming him of his money, and if he actually sent you the diodes, the postal service that he uses would be at fault, not him. If he really mailed you the diodes, he kept his side of the deal, I know it sucks when things get lost in the mail, but thats why you get things insured and with delivery confirmation.
the Laser did exist. He said he sent out 6 diodes 3 different times. Thats a Lie. the post office wont loose things that often then right after i told him, he posted a red laser for sale a few days later.[/quote]


So the initial trade was 6 diodes for 2 lithium batteries and a charger? That seems like a good trade on your part, and I will agree with you that the post office wouldn't lose shipments that many times.[/quote]

No the initial trade was 2 diodes he said he sent out 2 diodes and that they got lost he said he sent out a total of 6 in 3 different packages , theres no way. so i said ill keep the money till i get the diodes that are owed to me(2).
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i owed hin a diode i sent it out to him, he says he did not resive any thing so i sent few more same thing happend nothing came? maybe its my post office? well toked had a green laser for sale from dx for 30 bucks so i bought it and sent 30 bucks to his paypal account,i asked did he ship my laser he said no because his mom took it away and hid it, so i said ok let me no when u get it back, a week pasted and no laser so i asked toked about the laser he sayed he is not giveing it to me because he did not get his diode so i opened a dispute on him to get my money back.
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i owed hin a diode i sent it out to him he says he did not resive any thing so i sent few more same thing happend nothing came. well toked had a green laser for sale from dx for 30 bucks so i bought it and sent 30 bucks to his paypal account,i asked did he ship my laser he said no because his mom took it away and hid it so i said ok let me no when uget it back, a week pasted and no laser so i im toked asking about the laser he sayed he is not giveing it to me because he did not get his diode so i opened a dispute on him to get my money back.
the trade was for 2 diodes dude. I told you I would send the money back when i recieve them. I wouldnt lie to you about recieving them. I have done many transactions here so you can ask.
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i no like i said i sent them out all the diodes i had im not lieing about it if i was why would i buy ur laser from u ? if i had more diodes i would send more to u but i dont.
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i owed hin a diode i sent it out to him, he says he did not resive any thing so i sent few more same thing happend nothing came? maybe its my post office? well toked had a green laser for sale from dx for 30 bucks so i bought it and sent 30 bucks to his paypal account,i asked did he ship my laser he said no because his mom took it away and hid it, so i said ok let me no when u get it back, a week pasted and no laser so i asked toked about the laser he sayed he is not giveing it to me because he did not get his diode so i opened a dispute on him to get my money back.
Why didn't you get delivery confirmation or shipping insurance? After they lost it the first time, and the second time, that extra $1 for delivery confirmation could've prevented the whole thing.
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Well i am not gonna Let myself get screwed out of money, I sent you your stuff, but you failed to send mine.
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screwed out of money ok toked the charger coast what 8 bucks from dx ? keep the 8 bucks and send me the rest ?
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I think your both paranoid about being scammed. These diodes could have easily been lost in the post or sent to the wrong place, it doesn't mean you have been scammed.
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well if toked can take away 8 bucks for the charger and send me the rest i think thats fair
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But i sent batts too remember? those are 6$ too? i offered to take the cost of the stuff out and refund the rest and you said no
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its up to u what ur going to do, if ur going to keep my money or refund it till then the dispute is still opened and the batteries only coast 4.32
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