Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread - Laser Pointer Forums

wannaburn · 11-06-2009, 12:17 PM

Attention LPF members…

SOLD OUT...

Th0ughts · 11-06-2009, 04:41 PM

New Boost Driver ????

pzpzpz

wannaburn · 11-06-2009, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Th0ughts

New Boost Driver ????

pzpzpz

Thats the wrong link, New Boost Driver ????

Like I said, if intersted they are for sale. I will be selling these in all the handhelds here as well.

The offer is there for those who want to push their 8x with more current.

yobresal · 11-06-2009, 08:23 PM

I must say these drivers look very attractive. It is a bit odd though for an new driver to the market to make it's first showing above the price of all the other boost drivers. I'll will bet you will sell a boat load of these if you match or undercut Dr.Lava. No offense Dr. I love your drivers.
Nice Work!

robjdixon · 11-06-2009, 08:24 PM

If you have a flexdrive or rkcstr driver hanging around, can you take a comparison photo please?

Rob

wannaburn · 11-06-2009, 08:47 PM

Thanks for the feedback.

@ Yobresal, this is the same type driver in the pen you bought from me some time back. I have put countless hours into the R&D for it to match my personal needs. The price may seem a bit steep, but for all that went into it, and the fact that its the only driver availible that can push the new 8x from 3.6v, over 500mA, I thought the price wasnt too bad.

The price is 25$ shipped for anyone who has had business with me in the past. I seemed to forgot to mention that above.

@ Robjdixon, I will take a pic for reference. The latest Flexdrive is 12mm long x 9mm wide.

I made these boards a little bigger knowing that most will be using them to push some serious current, and the layout was done with heat in mind.

Mine measure 15mm long x 8mm wide.

Next to a rkcstr, I cant say, I am probably the only one on LPF who doesnt own one..
I have always been partial to boost, just to keep the build sizes small.

I will post a pic in a few mins...

robjdixon · 11-06-2009, 08:52 PM

Thanks. The drivers look awesome BTW

yobresal · 11-06-2009, 09:04 PM

Well I will be the first then to buy one of your drivers. PP address me in a PM and I will send it along. Thanks.

wannaburn · 11-06-2009, 09:08 PM

PM sent with the reduced price for previous dealings

yobresal · 11-06-2009, 09:36 PM

Payment sent!, Can't wait to check it out.

wannaburn · 11-06-2009, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yobresal

Payment sent!, Can't wait to check it out.

Payment received, as well as the desired mA. I will try to get it out tonight before the P/O closes.

Deliver will be under 14days, usually 1 week.

Joe.

Tech_Junkie · 11-06-2009, 09:49 PM

A + / - 20mA swing could kill a diode...no?

wannaburn · 11-06-2009, 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech_Junkie

A + / - 20mA swing could kill a diode...no?

Its + / - 2mv <----- and almost no harmonic signals... So that would be a big fat NO..

IgoreT has quoted his driver using the same IC chip as IIRC 30mv of ripple or so... I have got this down to 8mv and could add more protection, but its simply not needed.

Tech_Junkie · 11-06-2009, 10:01 PM

So if I wanted one set to 90ma for use with a PHR, and it pushed it to 110mA, the PHR is not in danger if its a low efficiency diode? Serious question here.

How about a 6X? A 210mA jump from 190mA could easily kill the diode, if not making the life shorter.

wannaburn · 11-06-2009, 10:09 PM

edit correction made..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech_Junkie

"The drivers will come preset to the buyers needs + / - 20mA"

I assumed from this that you cant set it to the exact mA desired. This is what I was talking about.

LOL, missed that, you should have quoted the part you were refering to.

"At higher output currents, the current is adjusted by a fraction of an ohm." So setting it to exactly what you need will come with some tolerance. The most commonly requested preset currents will be my target for now."

When stting this driver with an r set for 190mA+ of current, the resistor has to be set by a fraction of an ohm. If somebody wants a specific mA set and I dont have the resistor, I will set it as close as possible, under the advisement of the buyer.

If you want 190mA I have the 1% tolerance res that will provide 190ma on the button. If somebody wants a strange number and I dont have the exact resistor, I can simply get it close, or just get more resistors...

I have only used these at under 240mA and have limited types of resistors.

I will add more as people ask for various currents.

This does not mean the driver will drift 20mA... The buyer has final decision on the preset current.

Tech_Junkie · 11-06-2009, 10:23 PM

"The drivers will come preset to the buyers needs + / - 20mA"

I assumed from this that you cant set it to the exact mA desired. This is what I was talking about.

Tabish · 11-06-2009, 10:24 PM

Read his post again.
The ripple is measured in mV not mA.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech_Junkie

So if I wanted one set to 90ma for use with a PHR, and it pushed it to 110mA, the PHR is not in danger if its a low efficiency diode? Serious question here.

How about a 6X? A 210mA jump from 190mA could easily kill the diode, if not making the life shorter.

Tech_Junkie · 11-06-2009, 10:32 PM

I read it 3 times. I dont understand were the + / - 20mA applies. Is he saying he cant set to exactly what you want because it has a 40mA swing?

wannaburn · 11-06-2009, 10:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tabish

Read his post again.
The ripple is measured in mV not mA.

LOL, yeah that got me confused, he didnt quote what he was reffering too.... I corrected my above post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech_Junkie

I read it 3 times. I dont understand were the + / - 20mA applies. Is he saying he cant set to exactly what you want because it has a 40mA swing?

No swing... read the correction..

lasersbee · 11-06-2009, 10:38 PM

I think what wannaburn said in his 1st post (correct me if I misunderstood)
was that he could set the output of the driver within +/- 20mA of what you wanted...

I would think that.. that should be tightened down a bit...
If I wanted a 110mA driver I would not want a 140mA or 90ma
showing up...

Just my

Tech_Junkie · 11-06-2009, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lasersbee

If I wanted a 110mA driver I would not want a 140mA or 90ma
showing up...

Just my

Exactly...

wannaburn · 11-06-2009, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lasersbee

I think what wannaburn said in his 1st post (correct me if I misunderstood)
was that he could set the output of the driver within +/- 20mA of what you wanted...

I would think that.. that should be tightened down a bit...
If I wanted a 110mA driver I would not want a 140mA or 90ma
showing up...

Just my

Its only an issue at higher currents, setting for a PHR, I have tons of resistors and can get it within a mA or two.

But for people who request 304mA, lol I will most likely not have a correct value resistor on hand to get it bang on.

As I said, I will be focusing on the most common currents used, 80mA, 90mA, 110mA, 190mA 290mA and so on.

*Edit* Okay no more tolerance talk, I will be ordering an assortment of resistors tonight, so its going to be + / - 2mA to any requested mA within the bound of the above specs.

Tabish · 11-07-2009, 07:52 PM

Would these be good enough for driving 12x diodes ???

Asherz · 11-07-2009, 08:14 PM

First I must say the drivers look very nice, the PCB is very stylish

I was reading the other thread where you seemed to have a bit of a disagreement with another member, but I think that was down to who owns what in which schematic.

I will wait for a few tests of your drivers to be done before I purchase any but I do look forward to owning one as they look very nice, and seem to work well from what I have read.

Although I must ask, if you have to individually change the resistor on each driver, and you get bogged down with orders will it not be potentially very difficult to keep up? As with most other drivers they have a pot so they get built and shipped. I don't know much about electronics beyond a certain level, so I must ask is it not possible for you to potentially replace the resistors with a potentiometer? This would also allow us to re-use a driver with another diode if an old one dies. (Please excuse my lack of knowledge if this isn't possible

)

wannaburn · 11-07-2009, 08:55 PM

I’m working on a pot for this actually right now. I have used these in hundreds of builds, and for the most part with lower current diodes, no higher than 6x and under 240mA.

The challenge with this driver and setting the current is in the range from 193mA and up. When setting the current for 193ma, it’s as simple as a 1ohm resistor. Above 193ma the current has to be set with resistors at 1/10th of an ohm etc.

Ex. To get 393mA a .49R is used, and for 402ma a .48R is used.

The problem with using a pot is the current has to pass through the resistor as is, so a combination of pot and resistor has to be used to take the load off the pot. This is something that would make it easier, but not necessarily better. The fixed resistor is much more reliable over long term. But is still doable.

I’m ordering more resistors to try and broaden the range of selectable currents.

@Tabish

For the 12x, I will have to see what the vf and current requirements turn out to be. As of now it can deliver what the 8x’s are running at. So for the 12x is anybody’s guess.

It will meet the requirements of voltage with no problems up to 25v, but the current may present an issue over 300-350mA if the vf of a 12x exceeds 7-8v. This would be a heat issue, but will be testing some work a rounds for that soon.

11-06-2009, 12:17 PM	#1
wannaburn Class 3R Laser Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 1,672 Rep Power: 111	Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread Attention LPF members… SOLD OUT... Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Oh don't lean on me man, cause you can't afford the ticket..." David Bowie. Last edited by wannaburn; 02-18-2010 at 09:47 PM. Reason: Sold Out

11-06-2009, 04:41 PM	#2
Th0ughts Class 2 Laser Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 479 Rep Power: 4	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread New Boost Driver ???? pzpzpz

11-06-2009, 08:23 PM	#4
yobresal Class 3R Laser Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Napa, CA, USA Posts: 2,165 Rep Power: 169	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread I must say these drivers look very attractive. It is a bit odd though for an new driver to the market to make it's first showing above the price of all the other boost drivers. I'll will bet you will sell a boat load of these if you match or undercut Dr.Lava. No offense Dr. I love your drivers. Nice Work! __________________ Do you like to....do it yourself? Visit www.Modwerx.com for all your laser parts and accessories. This guy is the MAN!

11-06-2009, 08:24 PM	#5
robjdixon Class 3R Laser Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,057 Rep Power: 115	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread If you have a flexdrive or rkcstr driver hanging around, can you take a comparison photo please? Rob

11-06-2009, 08:47 PM	#6
wannaburn Class 3R Laser Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 1,672 Rep Power: 111	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread Thanks for the feedback. @ Yobresal, this is the same type driver in the pen you bought from me some time back. I have put countless hours into the R&D for it to match my personal needs. The price may seem a bit steep, but for all that went into it, and the fact that its the only driver availible that can push the new 8x from 3.6v, over 500mA, I thought the price wasnt too bad. The price is 25$ shipped for anyone who has had business with me in the past. I seemed to forgot to mention that above. @ Robjdixon, I will take a pic for reference. The latest Flexdrive is 12mm long x 9mm wide. I made these boards a little bigger knowing that most will be using them to push some serious current, and the layout was done with heat in mind. Mine measure 15mm long x 8mm wide. Next to a rkcstr, I cant say, I am probably the only one on LPF who doesnt own one.. I have always been partial to boost, just to keep the build sizes small. I will post a pic in a few mins... Attached Thumbnails __________________ "Oh don't lean on me man, cause you can't afford the ticket..." David Bowie. Last edited by wannaburn; 11-06-2009 at 08:55 PM.

11-06-2009, 08:52 PM	#7
robjdixon Class 3R Laser Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,057 Rep Power: 115	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread Thanks. The drivers look awesome BTW

11-06-2009, 09:04 PM	#8
yobresal Class 3R Laser Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Napa, CA, USA Posts: 2,165 Rep Power: 169	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread Well I will be the first then to buy one of your drivers. PP address me in a PM and I will send it along. Thanks. __________________ Do you like to....do it yourself? Visit www.Modwerx.com for all your laser parts and accessories. This guy is the MAN!

11-06-2009, 09:08 PM	#9
wannaburn Class 3R Laser Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 1,672 Rep Power: 111	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread PM sent with the reduced price for previous dealings __________________ "Oh don't lean on me man, cause you can't afford the ticket..." David Bowie.

11-06-2009, 09:36 PM	#10
yobresal Class 3R Laser Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Napa, CA, USA Posts: 2,165 Rep Power: 169	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread Payment sent!, Can't wait to check it out. __________________ Do you like to....do it yourself? Visit www.Modwerx.com for all your laser parts and accessories. This guy is the MAN!

11-06-2009, 09:49 PM	#12
Tech_Junkie Class 3B Laser Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NE Sea Coast Posts: 3,922 Rep Power: 61	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread A + / - 20mA swing could kill a diode...no? __________________ __________________

11-06-2009, 10:01 PM	#14
Tech_Junkie Class 3B Laser Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NE Sea Coast Posts: 3,922 Rep Power: 61	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread So if I wanted one set to 90ma for use with a PHR, and it pushed it to 110mA, the PHR is not in danger if its a low efficiency diode? Serious question here. How about a 6X? A 210mA jump from 190mA could easily kill the diode, if not making the life shorter. __________________ __________________ Last edited by Tech_Junkie; 11-06-2009 at 10:13 PM.

11-06-2009, 10:23 PM	#16
Tech_Junkie Class 3B Laser Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NE Sea Coast Posts: 3,922 Rep Power: 61	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread "The drivers will come preset to the buyers needs + / - 20mA" I assumed from this that you cant set it to the exact mA desired. This is what I was talking about. __________________ __________________

11-06-2009, 10:32 PM	#18
Tech_Junkie Class 3B Laser Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NE Sea Coast Posts: 3,922 Rep Power: 61	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread I read it 3 times. I dont understand were the + / - 20mA applies. Is he saying he cant set to exactly what you want because it has a 40mA swing? __________________ __________________

11-06-2009, 10:38 PM	#20
lasersbee Class 4 Laser Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Quebec, Canada Posts: 5,912 Rep Power: 278	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread I think what wannaburn said in his 1st post (correct me if I misunderstood) was that he could set the output of the driver within +/- 20mA of what you wanted... I would think that.. that should be tightened down a bit... If I wanted a 110mA driver I would not want a 140mA or 90ma showing up... Just my __________________ LASERS 1W & 2W 808nm Lab Lasers & 3w C-Mounts 200mW - 260mW 655nm Lab Laser & Pens 10mW to 70mW 532nm pens 80mW + 123mW 532nm Labbys 360mW 532nm SPYDER I Pro (sample) 50mW - 210mW 405nm Modules METERS Deluxe LaserBee I (shop use) + Thermopile Standard LaserBee I (shop use) + Thermopile 200mW HLPM II (Optical Sensor) Coherent LaserCheck (Optical Sensor) Scientec 365 + Thermopile Kenometers + Coherent Thermopile Newport 1825-C Digital/Analog + 818T Thermopile FREE 1 Ohm Test Load Resistors http://laserpointerforums.com/f39/fr...ors-42409.html HLPM II 200mW LPM Module + Shipping $54.99 http://laserpointerforums.com/f64/fs...ped-46575.html LaserBee I + Thermopile + Data Logging + Shipping $216.99 http://laserpointerforums.com/f39/fs...ped-43922.html See the LaserBee I products here on our Website... http://www.bauer-electron.com/eby/eby1wlpm.htm

11-07-2009, 07:52 PM	#23
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11-07-2009, 08:14 PM	#24
Asherz Class 3R Laser Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 1,018 Rep Power: 22	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread First I must say the drivers look very nice, the PCB is very stylish I was reading the other thread where you seemed to have a bit of a disagreement with another member, but I think that was down to who owns what in which schematic. I will wait for a few tests of your drivers to be done before I purchase any but I do look forward to owning one as they look very nice, and seem to work well from what I have read. Although I must ask, if you have to individually change the resistor on each driver, and you get bogged down with orders will it not be potentially very difficult to keep up? As with most other drivers they have a pot so they get built and shipped. I don't know much about electronics beyond a certain level, so I must ask is it not possible for you to potentially replace the resistors with a potentiometer? This would also allow us to re-use a driver with another diode if an old one dies. (Please excuse my lack of knowledge if this isn't possible ) __________________ - Awesome Mini-RPL Review! - O-like module @ 171mW in Mini-RPL host Single-line Argon @ 52mW 488nm Peak PHR-803T @ 110mA in Jayrob MXDL host DX Red 660nm 200mW DX True green 100mW Dragon Lasers green and blue goggles

11-07-2009, 08:55 PM	#25
wannaburn Class 3R Laser Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 1,672 Rep Power: 111	Re: Pyro-Drive 405nm Driver / Sale Thread I’m working on a pot for this actually right now. I have used these in hundreds of builds, and for the most part with lower current diodes, no higher than 6x and under 240mA. The challenge with this driver and setting the current is in the range from 193mA and up. When setting the current for 193ma, it’s as simple as a 1ohm resistor. Above 193ma the current has to be set with resistors at 1/10th of an ohm etc. Ex. To get 393mA a .49R is used, and for 402ma a .48R is used. The problem with using a pot is the current has to pass through the resistor as is, so a combination of pot and resistor has to be used to take the load off the pot. This is something that would make it easier, but not necessarily better. The fixed resistor is much more reliable over long term. But is still doable. I’m ordering more resistors to try and broaden the range of selectable currents. @Tabish For the 12x, I will have to see what the vf and current requirements turn out to be. As of now it can deliver what the 8x’s are running at. So for the 12x is anybody’s guess. It will meet the requirements of voltage with no problems up to 25v, but the current may present an issue over 300-350mA if the vf of a 12x exceeds 7-8v. This would be a heat issue, but will be testing some work a rounds for that soon. __________________ "Oh don't lean on me man, cause you can't afford the ticket..." David Bowie. Last edited by wannaburn; 11-07-2009 at 08:58 PM.

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