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I mean really BlueFusion, sorry, but I really think anyone is a fool for believing you. The average scammer might not stay around, but a good scammer would stay around in an attempt to "sell" more lasers in an attempt to pay off your debt, while you're only just scamming more people.

360freak said:

I mean really BlueFusion, sorry, but I really think anyone is a fool for believing you. The average scammer might not stay around, but a good scammer would stay around in an attempt to "sell" more lasers in an attempt to pay off your debt, while you're only just scamming more people.

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Do you know this guy? have you ever been in his position? have you ever had to get out of a hole you dug yourself? If you answered No to any of those, you need to shut up and leave. I can safely and honestly say Yes to all 3 of them, and I can therefore understand where BF is right now. This is a tough spot to be in, for anyone. Even more so if you're as young as him. Go walk a mile in his shoes if you don't understand where he's coming from. Me, I believe him... even though we've all been put through a lot of crap for the past few months, he's been around for a long time, and has earned my trust hundreds of times over before this. In short-- He's got tenure.

Chad said:

[quote author=360freak link=1217776159/0#17 date=1218000010]I mean really BlueFusion, sorry, but I really think anyone is a fool for believing you. The average scammer might not stay around, but a good scammer would stay around in an attempt to "sell" more lasers in an attempt to pay off your debt, while you're only just scamming more people.

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Do you know this guy? have you ever been in his position? have you ever had to get out of a hole you dug yourself? If you answered No to any of those, you need to shut up and leave. I can safely and honestly say Yes to all 3 of them, and I can therefore understand where BF is right now. This is a tough spot to be in, for anyone. Even more so if you're as young as him. Go walk a mile in his shoes if you don't understand where he's coming from. Me, I believe him... even though we've all been put through a lot of crap for the past few months, he's been around for a long time, and has earned my trust hundreds of times over before this. In short-- He's got tenure.  
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I'm younger than him, I've read the countless threads concerning the trouble he's caused, and I know very well what it's like to get out of a hole I've dug, and I know promising people false shipping dates and scamming others to get out of current debts is not a way to get out. I also doubt you know him personally, because I would bet that if anyone here knew him personally, his ass would be pretty beaten.

Well he did state he'll be working through middle men and using receive-before-you-pay policies to rebuild his reputation. I think that'll go a long way if he's true to his word on that.

it is because of people like BlueFusion that laser pointers are now banned in australia

prepubesent teens running around with high powered lasers, showing off to there mates thinking they are cool - DOIN STUPID SHIT!

remember people

a leopard doesnt change his spots.....

and we have plenty of scammers here in australia

Trust is a relationship of reliance. A trusted party is presumed to seek to fulfill policies, ethical codes, law and their previous promises......

something for you to dwell on BlueFusion, because from my tainted view of the world you fit the UNTRUSTWORTHY definition better.


well thats my 2cents worth...tax included

lead_magnet said:

it is because of people like BlueFusion that laser pointers are now banned in australia

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That was uncalled for.

Scammer or not, BlueFusion isn't one of those people shooting lasers at planes. In fact, implying that is a great insult.

I'm Australian, but I'm certainly not 'blaming' BlueFusion. Lasers weren't banned in Australia because people were scamming people, in fact it has nothing to do with that so I have NO idea why you would even say that.

Instead what you just implied is that BlueFusion runs around, points lasers at planes and does other illegal stuff with them. How you use them is completely different to how you sell them.


This is your second post on these forums. Using it to say the GREATEST insult to any laser hobbyist, even to a discredited one such as BlueFusion, is just not on.

I agree with Murudai. Because he has scammed people doesnt mean he is why they were banned.

lead magnet, l2fact.

Actually if bluefision had sent out the lasers, there would have been more "idiots" running around with high powered lasers

firstly...thanks for all the negitive rep... lol

Murudai....

firstly i am implying he is an untrustworthy teenager with high power laser....

YES it is in fact untrustworthy teenagers with high powered lasers that have caused the australian ban

any other implications you see are of your own making...
i suggest you re-read my first post IN FULL

secondly.... i dont see why your opions are any more valid than mine because of the amount of posts i have made...

another thing to remember people....

opinions are like ass-holes....
everyones got one and they all stink

Everyone remember...

Opinions are like onions:
only a few letters different.

lead_magnet said:

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firstly i am implying he is an untrustworthy teenager with high power laser....

YES it is in fact untrustworthy teenagers with high powered lasers that have caused the australian ban

any other implications you see are of your own making...
i suggest you re-read my first post IN FULL

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Don't give me that 're-read my post' crap. What you WANTED to say and what you DID say can be completely different. If I read it differently to what you wanted to say then learn how to WRITE.


You CLEARLY implied that BlueFusion is an untrustworthy teenager with a high powered laser. And you said that it is those people that caused the ban. In fact you just said it again! So don't try and deny that.

And THAT is uncalled for. BlueFusion may be a 'scammer' (or not, we don't know) but saying he uses his lasers immaturely is completely different and very insulting to him. And is just not on, you have no idea what you are talking about and the people agree with me.


As for post counts and opinions. The thing is low post counts imply you haven't been here long. Where as I've been here a while, and got to know BlueFusion much better than you. Thus I am in a far better position to formulate an opinion on him. THAT is why my opinion is more valid (but who knows, maybe you do know him).


Okay, anyway, this will be my last post on the subject. I respect these forums, and I respect this rule: http://www.laserpointerforums.com/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1218283032