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Nice Dave.

I'm curious though. For whatever reason you COULD make 473nm lasers how much would a 5mW cost? A 5mW from glenn's gb is 315 shipped (I think. It's not more than 350). If it's less than that I might want one.
Did you mean with "dichros and turning mirrors and what-not" or did you want actual crystal conversion of IR light?

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Well, dichros and turning mirrors dont make "true" 473nm blue.

Dark, I'm genuinely interested because it may cost less if you do it: could you build me a 20k 100-400mW g/rgy laser show. All analogue. My RGV only has 2 analogue lasers. Also (depending on how much it costs) I want it to be CDHR compliant(safety features, ect. )

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I could be wrong here, but I believe for CDRH and FDA compliance a submitted design must be approved and given an ascension number, and I am sorry, please correct me if I am wrong, but I do not believe Dark Lasers has ever had an ascension number on any product. I just don't want anyone mislead !!! -Glenn
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Then, what did you mean by "TRUE blue (473nm)", Tyler?

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not from scratch buddy. with dichros and turning mirrors and what-not. it can be done. you need to readup before you chime in like that, or at least have a quote or something to show when you do. because i never advertised being able to make 473nm lasers from "scratch"... i dont think many people would be able to perform such a task.

That being said, maybe you should read what you right before you go around throwing stones and telling people anything just to make a quick buck
Also im wondering how you can make "True 473nm" laser lasing on 473nm with "dichros and turning mirrors and what-not" Please correct me if im wrong (and i might be) but i dont think that possible.

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Let's see if we can help keep any more NooB's from getting ripped off --

**The MYTH of the $20 build***


>250mW red laser ==
Jayrob MXDL kit with "hot option" = $48
FS: MXDL Host & Heatsink Combo! (4171 or 3405)
LPC diode pressed into an aiXiz module with leads attached from Modwerkz = $20
LPC-815 650nm red laser diode in focusing module - $19.99 : Modwerx Shop
Glass lens from aiXiz = $10
Batteries = $5

Total in parts that would only require two wire-to-wire solders and some simple assembly = $83


Actual price quoted by DarkArmyofOne to a customer for a >250mW red laser with (these) "top quality parts" = $300


That is $108.50 per wire-to-wire solder weld = Not a bad income for Tyler, but a total rip-off for you



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>250mW red laser ==
Jayrob MXDL basic kit = $38
FS: MXDL Host & Heatsink Combo! (4171 or 3405)
Red Burning module with driver from daguin = $35
FS: Modules, Modules, and More
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Batteries = $5

Total parts which would require only two wire-to-wire solder welds and some simple assembly = $88

Actual price quoted by DarkArmyofOne to a customer for a >250mW red laser with (these) "top quality parts" = $300


That is $106.00 per wire-to-wire solder weld = Not a bad income for Tyler, but a total rip-off for you

What he does is called "bait and switch." Bait and switch is illegal in ALL 50 states


Help yourself - Protect yourself - read around a bit before buying - DO NOT buy from DarkArmyofOne - DO NOT get ripped-off



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again, nice hate speach.

I dont build lasers anymore whatso-ever. so stop wasting your time

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again, nice hate speach.
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I covered both of your threads at the same time.

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Ummm did I miss something??? lol

I thought Darkarmyofone was a respectable builder / fixer ??!!
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Ummm did I miss something??? lol
I thought Darkarmyofone was a respectable builder / fixer ??!!
It takes awhile to "catch" a con. He is very good at "talking" a good game. Unfortunately, most of his "customers" were NooB's that didn't know they were being ripped off. It took awhile for people to start to think that it wasn't really their problem and start asking the veterans questions about what they were being told/sold.

BIG WARNING -- If a builder asks you to pay, in full, BEFORE the unit is built, that builder is a problem.

There are several members out there that sent him money that is now in "limbo." I hope that they paid with PayPal or a credit card

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Let it be done then! it's been finished, you got your ultimate wish Daguin, I DONT BUILD LASERS ANYMORE!!!! yaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!! r u happy now?

So leave well enough alone already would ya?

and i like how you've labeld me a "CON" i'd like to see some hard cold proof. Im starting to think your just jealous Dave, your acting like it anyways, going through every thread i have, and posting the same message about me? yet, you show no proof of me CONNING anyone. nor do i have any feedback/PM's, or e-mails indicating i've done such a thing.

Like i said, im not a con, or a scam artist, let me tell ya, lol, I spend over 4thousand getting my site up and running, JUST so i can rip a couple people off makes allot of sense there Davey boy!

So is it finished? or do you have more hatred to spew onto this forum?

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I thought Darkarmyofone was a respectable builder / fixer ??!!
I am a respectable builder, to all those but DAVE. He has a thing for me apparently, he's convinced i am ripping people off at every turn.

If you dont like my prices peoples... DONT BUY ANYTHING..! lol

I dont sell lasers at all anymore PERIOD, so sorry for those of you who cant build your own laser, now it's gunna run you a hundred bucks more or so to get one done by IgorT (who i HIGHLY reccomend, does GREAT builds, even makes his OWN drivers from scratch) it's worth every penny, i've seen his builds, and their gorgeous! so give IgorT a shout if you need a laser people.

I am retired permanently (except for my current obligations)

Sorry things are looking so Down Tabish, it's a shame one person can ruin it for everyone huh? well, he didnt really ruin it, I simply choose not to deal with the bullshit anymore, people on this forum are too sketchy about everything to deal with building lasers for people.

OH AND DAGUIN! i DO always use a middle man *deeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrr* it's called paypal bub. so anyone is 100% free to open a dispute if they ever so desire. And its been this way since day one. I ONLY allow paypal payments. nothing else.

But Tabish, Welcome to Dark Lasers! (Dark Lasers) will ALWAYS be around, and no one can take that from me so feel free to order parts at the cheapest prices around! and enjoy.

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I am a respectable builder, to all those but DAVE. He has a thing for me apparently, he's convinced i am ripping people off at every turn.
If you dont like my prices peoples... DONT BUY ANYTHING..! lol
I dont sell lasers at all anymore PERIOD, so sorry for those of you who cant build your own laser, now it's gunna run you a hundred bucks more or so to get one done by IgorT (who i HIGHLY reccomend, does GREAT builds, even makes his OWN drivers from scratch) it's worth every penny, i've seen his builds, and their gorgeous! so give IgorT a shout if you need a laser people.
I am retired permanently (except for my current obligations)
Sorry things are looking so Down Tabish, it's a shame one person can ruin it for everyone huh? well, he didnt really ruin it, I simply choose not to deal with the bullshit anymore, people on this forum are too sketchy about everything to deal with building lasers for people.
OH AND DAGUIN! i DO always use a middle man *deeeeerrrrrrrrrrrrrr* it's called paypal bub. so anyone is 100% free to open a dispute if they ever so desire. And its been this way since day one. I ONLY allow paypal payments. nothing else.
But Tabish, Welcome to Dark Lasers! (Dark Lasers) will ALWAYS be around, and no one can take that from me so feel free to order parts at the cheapest prices around! and enjoy.
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First, he doth protest to much methinks. The archives are open for people to see who I am and who you are.

Second, you haven't been part of the forum long enough to even understand what a "middle man" is here.

Third, you still have stickys advertising your wares and services.

We'll keep these threads on top as long as you want them to be or until c0ld gets enough complaints about them and you

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Though i must confess i've had people pay in full before a build was complete (even more now), simply because i don't normally make builds for people, and when i'm asked to make a build i rarely have the funds to purchase the parts that are needed, so i ask for the funds up front to order the parts. the majority of the time though i'll give them the option of simply paying for the cost of parts, and the rest upon completion. could be anywhere from free, up to $50 depending on the person asking for the service and the type of build., for example i'm not going to charge $50 to slide a module into an ehgemus host...more like $20 on top of parts to cover building the module and shipping.
i also got reminded how horrible it is to sell lasers that aren't built yet (the mxdl silvers for example). thank god i'll have them out of here tomorrow and be done with that mess!
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Though i must confess i've had people pay in full before a build was complete (even more now), simply because i don't normally make builds for people, and when i'm asked to make a build i rarely have the funds to purchase the parts that are needed, so i ask for the funds up front to order the parts. the majority of the time though i'll give them the option of simply paying for the cost of parts, and the rest upon completion. could be anywhere from free, up to $50 depending on the person asking for the service and the type of build., for example i'm not going to charge $50 to slide a module into an ehgemus host...more like $20 on top of parts to cover building the module and shipping.
i also got reminded how horrible it is to sell lasers that aren't built yet (the mxdl silvers for example). thank god i'll have them out of here tomorrow and be done with that mess!
I'll go with asking for the "parts" money, especially if the build is being done for free (or virtually so).

However, taking a $600 payment for a laser that he has never built before, and was still trying to figure out how to build, is a bit more than I am willing to accept as an honest business practice.

Also charging Noob's more money (excessive, IMHO obscene money) for the same parts that we all are buying here by calling them "top quality parts that are not available to just anybody" (he said he gets them only because he buys so many) is well beyond honest. See the example I posted in my warning about him above.

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