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Hercules 500mw Green Laser For Sale High Power !

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Hello everyone. We are new to this website and forum. We are a shop located out of Hollywood, Florida. We have a Hercules 500w Green Laser for sale. It is in excellent condition. Works great. This laser is super bright. Im sure all you laser enthusiats know. We are currently asking $899, but we are very open to offers. We will ship for an additional shipping/handling charge. The link below shows some additional info and photos. Please call our shop if you are interested. Thank you!!

Casino Pawn - (954) 962-9494

http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/ele/1452679221.html
 
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That's an awesome price, almost too good to be true.. You only have one post here too.
 
It looks like you would be very well of to have Jimmy be the intermediary here. He could verify the laser exists perhaps output. He is an established member here and I am sure that any interested parties would feel much more comfortable with him doing so.
 
Hey, sorry everyone for the incomplete link. Please try this one and let me know if you can see it. If not....just click"Miami" section of craigslist, and type in "hercules" into the search engine. We understand some of you may be hesitant to do business with a new unestablished member here. We respect and understand that. Anything we can do to prove our sincerity we will happily do. Anyone who lives in our area is more then welcome to come check this laser out. Thank you

http://miami.craigslist.org/brw/ele/1452679221.html
 
Speaking from experience; besides verifying it's output power, any buyer should also get the serial number and give LaserGlow a call it verify that it's not stolen merchandise.
We keep a record of serials that our customers give us when their lasers are stolen and I bet LG does as well.
True story:
I had a fellow once who sent me an RPL for an upgrade to a higher power level.
When it arrived, the serial number was one that was fraudulently bought from us with a stolen credit card. When I called him on it he said he bought it from a local pawn shop in Tampa Bay. I had to tell him...To bad, it was stolen from me and now I've got it back and that he should take it up with the pawn shop for selling him stolen goods.
Not good for him as he may have very well bought it at the pawn shop like he said, but stolen goods are stolen goods and when they turn up, I send them back to their rightful owner...who in this case was Optotronics.
 
The only problem with your story bootleg, is that legally he owns it if he bought it in good faith. It is up to Optotronics to get the money back from the guy who originally stole it. I know it seems messed up, but that's the way it is.

Seb
 
The only problem with your story bootleg, is that legally he owns it if he bought it in good faith. It is up to Optotronics to get the money back from the guy who originally stole it. I know it seems messed up, but that's the way it is.

Seb
Hi Jaseth,
Perhaps that may be the way it is in Denmark, but my lawyer told me that as long as I can prove the item was stolen from us and the serial number matches, then it goe back to me.
I had the police report with the serial number listed as well as the documentation from the credit card company and the cards rightful owner.
Buying in good faith is nothing. If it's found out to be stolen, then it goes back to the rightful owner. For instance, just recently there was a scam going on in the USA where stolen cars were being sold to used car dealers. The way they were able to sell the stolen cars was that after the car was stolen, they would go to another state and find the same year, model and color of car in a shopping center or elsewhere and copy the VIN, they would then make a fake VIN emblem and VIN door labels using this copied VIN from another state.
They would then sell the car with faked VIN to a used car dealer and the dealer would then sell the car to someone who really did buy it in good faith. What ended up happening was that the FBI got involved and figured out what was going on. It was really sad when the FBI /law enforcement came to get the cars. The new owners were blown away that the car was no longer theirs and that it was going back to the rightful owner...in this case the insurance company that paid off the original owner on the theft. The bad part was that these were all fairly new cars with loans and the people who bought the cars in good faith still had a car loan they were still responsible for paying.
So no, just because you buy something in good faith, it does not give you the right to keep it if the item is stolen goods, it goes back to it's rightful owner that it was stolen from.
In the case of customer units that I have serial numbers on, if one of those ends up coming back to me, it will have a hold put on it until the origianl customer gives me a copy of the police report with serial number indicated in that report...

Anyway I'm glad I got it back, but I have a couple others from around the same time period that hopefully will pop up.

As a side note, pawn shops are supposed to get real proof of ID on anyone pawning items so that law enforcment can track them down when this kind of thing happens.
The person who sent me the stolen laser, was going to go back to the local police and pwnshop to track down the real thief. If the pawn shop doesn't keep good records and get real ID, then it can get hit with a charge of receiving stolen merchandise.
 
Wow OK I had no idea it was like this in the US :)
We do have the same system with pawn shops as they are so likely to receive stolen goods that they have to do a very thorough check, but in general if you buy something here in Denmark and have no reason to believe it does not belong to the person you are buying it from, they can't take it away from you. This is exactly to prevent cases such as the one you mentioned. The same rule goes for selling goods and receiving stolen money - the person who's money it is cannot get the money back, but only the good which was purchased with it or compensation from the thief.

One of the most common cases this law is used in is when a man or woman sells something which is legally their husband's/wife's or is split between them. As long as the buyer could not have known it was the not the seller's item, he gets to keep it and the husband/wife/thief has to be contacted to get compensation.

Seb
 
Okay, I will take this deal, casinopawn. I'm looking for a Hercules at the moment and this one cannot be beat. However, like bottleg2go said, I am going to need a picture of the serial number on this unit so it can be verified by LaserGlow as a legitimate model. I did the same thing when I bought some second hand RPLs. Once it is verified, I'd also need it to be tested by a trusted member of the forums for power output. Once all that checks out, I'll buy it from you ;)

Sent via PM on these forums as well. I can't 'call' you because I'm in a different country :)
 
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Skype for the win : ) lol thats what you need Murudia : ) You can buy like 5$ in credit and make calls to any where in the world. Down side is that it is from your pc

Just took a closer look into your laser on Craig's list and I am just wondering if those are your pictures because it appears to me that the box says it is a herc 325…. it's really hard to see the numbers though but those numbers look like a 32X and even if you can't see that the middle number looks a whole lot like a 2 and the only lasers laser glow sells with a 2 in the middle is the herc 325.
But it could be that my eyes are seeing this so if you could take a better pic of the case and maybe the serial numbers to that would be great.
 
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Murudai, I can check out the laser if you'd like, however there's not much I can verify except for the actual functionality of the laser, as I do not have a LPM. If you're going to use a middle-man then this isn't really needed, but getting some details of what you're buying before you get involved might be a good idea. Best of luck to your purchase :)
 
Hard to read, but the craigslist photo of the laser case shows what looks like a 325mw model?
 


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