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Old 11-26-2012, 02:22 PM #17
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Thats kind of like saying “Your wife or not …. he porked her awesomely” Not sure that is going to make him feel better



Wow mad props to you Mrcrouse. Was a little worried you would come out guns blazing.
Maybe there is even the possibility that you and pyro could turn this into a positive thing for the both of you. Things are not always black and white … except for in the penitentiary ... and you got a brown group there too!

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Ya, I mean I understand FlaminPyro being pissed about someone using his design. It wouldn't make me too thrilled either. What pissed me off, is the members who thought it appropriate to PM me to yell at me. That is completely inappropriate as it does not concern them. I also got some people who wanted to give me a heads-up, or just calmly talk about it or give me a warning. That is okay, and I appreciate those people. If you are a fellow builder and contacted me whether to let me know the problem, or to give me a warning, thanks.


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Thats kind of like saying “Your wife or not …. he porked her awesomely” Not sure that is going to make him feel better
I would hope his attachment to his design doesn't rival and can't be compared to the relationship he has with his wife.

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BAD JuJu. This looks identical to the focusing knob I got from Jeff last year for my DTR 2 watt 445 handheld (minus the polish job)


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Well good for you. FlaminPyro and I have made peace with this situation. If any wants to talk about how what I made is a knock off of his focus knob, go do it elsewhere.
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Besides all the crap you might have heard for making this I am digging the mirror.
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Thank you! I have some new designs in the works now...
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I would hope that Jeff would be OKay with the apology and with this being the 1st and last-- you are both good friends & I hate to take sides....PM comin' to both.

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Sent you a PM WillPine. I can't sell you the knob pictured, but I can sell you any of the beautiful knobs listed here: FS: Custom Focus Adapters For Any Host! New Designs! Polishing Available!

I think this would probably look best:

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i like this design because you will be able to see though to the heatsink well, and show off that near mirror finish.
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Thanks. I tried to make one that would cut away as much excess metal as possible to leave a light knob that looks sweet. Seeing the heatsink behind it is a bonus too.
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That's a big focus ring, does it put a lot of stress on the lens barrel?
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Shouldn't as it is lighter in weight due to the slotting, and will be sized to fit just inside the bezel for extra support.
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We were just talking about how we could prevent misunderstanding like this in the future. Something like the following might be an idea. Only 1 or 2 would be relevant for most of us. If you are selling things you probably would care more for 2 or 3.

1) WTFPL - (Do What The Fuck You Want To Public License). WTFPL - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia This license is compatible with the GPL. The only difference from the next license is that any spin off has to also be 100% open. Means that if you make something that was described in the forums (unless it is marked as GLPFL) and improve it with ie some cool chips etc you need to share your design with anybody who asks. Sure you can sell it but so can anybody else. The Wikipedia makes it sound a bit like a BSD/MIT license. Its not. Its more like a Copyleft GPL. So you can almost “Do what the fuck you want”.

Example “Hey guys what a cool idea I have! Run with it, pimp it up if you want … but you will have to share whatever you change/do with us forever” Nobody Bogarts the joint. It gets passed to the next guy to the song of whales.

2) GLPFL - (General Laser Pointer Forum License) Would be like a BSD license. Take that $50 LPM thread for example. If the OP had said this design is GLPFL then so be it. You could improve that design like crazy with a CPU and code in the privacy of your basement dwelling. You could start selling the design (or stuff it up your butt) without without having to reveal the code and chips that YOU designed. You would have to give due credit and be open with info on stuff you did not design. In this case the stuff people openly worked on in the thread. Calling it a BSD license would be lame since we are not at Berkeley. We are on LPF, hence GLPFL. This motivates people to make spin-offs on ideas and make them better. Often for a profit. Actually Macintosh is a product of this. Steve Jobs (who could not code) just pimped up the FreeBSD OS with a fancy sound and video stack and stuffed it into a shiny box. Sorry hipsters its true! I quote - We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas - 1996 Steve Jobs.

Example “Hey guys what a cool idea I have! Run with it and pimp it up as much as you can. Feel free to sell it or eat it if you want. Don't have to share what you did with us” Theft no … major league Bogarting it can be.

3) MSL (My Shit License) - Rather self explanatory. Take for example the X drivers or Jerry's LPMs. Somebody then reverse engineers their stuff and starts selling the copied boost or a PIC with the same software as that LPM. Most of us have enough decency to not do something like that but there is always that one dick head that does it anyway. LPF could have a hall of shame page with booted wankers and products that break a MSL. A MSL would be the default for goods sold that have never had their designs/diagrams shared with the public. If you got to reverse engineer it or need to buy a physical product to make your own copy you know your breaking this.

Example “This is my shit you thief!”

This is just some random ideas and a rant. If you are still reading this it at least gave you something to read while taking a dump. Any input would be welcome

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Onryo

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So what happens when I make a general c6 heat sink or common host and say its my shit license. The problem has been discussed and cleared up. I think if someone wants to own a design they should take that same steps as any other inventor and get patents and such. Any person can see things on the forum, pictures and designs and can take that and sell them locally or on other forums. If you had a real patient you would have legal recourse against that person.

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