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Default Re: FS: *635nm 5mW Diodes (CLOSED)

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Not sure if you will, but could you hold that set for me? *I am at work and don't like doing transactions here due to security reasons, but I would really like to get a set of these to aid in my practice in building.
I am good for it, just ask Jay. *I promise you I will send the payment tonight when I get home (about 12 hours from now). *
I would really appreciate it! *
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Great! *Thank you so much. *

Now just out of curiosity, these diodes should run just fine from a 5mW 650nm red diode driver right? * I have a few of these lying around from a few DX modules I took apart. * I am not sure what mA they are running, but voltage wise should be the same?

If not I have a rckstr to play around with. These will make great practice builds/solders.
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Great! *Thank you so much. *
Now just out of curiosity, these diodes should run just fine from a 5mW 650nm red diode driver right? * I have a few of these lying around from a few DX modules I took apart. * I am not sure what mA they are running, but voltage wise should be the same?
If not I have a rckstr to play around with. *These will make great practice builds/solders.
I've never measured the current on one of those drivers, so I cannot say.

They are fun and "cheap" to experiment with AND you usually end up with some pretty bright "red" pointers in the end

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Another quick question, the rkcstr test load, can I use that to test the mA output on any driver, or just the rkcstr drivers?
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Any driver. The test load just simulates the load that the diode will give the driver.

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Now just out of curiosity, these diodes should run just fine from a 5mW 650nm red diode driver right? * I have a few of these lying around from a few DX modules I took apart. * I am not sure what mA they are running, but voltage wise should be the same?
I'm not too sure, but I did in fact try using the cheap drivers from the red DX modules (the focusable dot ones), and I couldn't get it to work no matter what pin combination i did. I then used that same diode on an LM317 build (DDL) and got it to work fine.

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I am going to test the current on one of those DX drivers when I am at work tomorrow. I'm suspecting they are pushing less than 10mA, which would explain why they wouldn't work with these diodes.

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Alright sorry for the double post, and being kind of off topic here (didn't want to make a new thread for this) but I just tested one of those DX drivers and the little thing is putting out 110mA with a 3.91V source (single lithium rechargeable).

I wasn't expecting that, why is it so high? Especially when its only pushing 5mW or less out of the red diode it was attached to?

If I am not mistaken, shouldn't I be able to drive a PHR with this driver? (given the right input voltage that is). Or do you think the driver is only capable of putting out a fixed voltage and not 'boosting' it to meet the demands of a higher voltage diode?

I am really tempted to hook this up to one of my PHR's... but I don't want to risk it if somebody could tell me why that would be a bad idea.
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I think it is very unlikely that DX lasers have boost drivers, as they are considerably more complex=expensive than buck drivers. In fact, how sure are you that they are really using a constant-current source instead of let's say just a series resistor? (A flashlight I bought from DX was advertised as having a "fully digital regulated circuit". Apart from the LED and switch, it didn't have any components. So if you remember that digitus (lat.)=finger, they're absolutely right... you use your finger to switch it on & off.) You can test that by varying the input voltage, and the resistance/voltage drop over the output. The current should stay the same.
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I think it is very unlikely that DX lasers have boost drivers, as they are considerably more complex=expensive than buck drivers. In fact, how sure are you that they are really using a constant-current source instead of let's say just a series resistor? (A flashlight I bought from DX was advertised as having a "fully digital regulated circuit". Apart from the LED and switch, it didn't have any components. So if you remember that digitus (lat.)=finger, they're absolutely right... you use your finger to switch it on & off.) You can test that by varying the input voltage, and the resistance/voltage drop over the output. The current should stay the same.
A little further testing on these shows they can push a ~5v violet diode. At 8.24volts from two lithiums and using the rkcstr test load setting to BLU, it started at 186mA and dropped to a steady 171mA as it warmed up. And lowering the volts considerably lowers the mA's. With 6.06volts it was doing 132mA.

So I have no idea if these are considered boost drivers (I'm not sure what a boost driver really means) but based on my testing with the rkcstr test load, it seems they would work for higher power violet diodes, like a 6x or even 4x, which would be a pretty good current at 171mA with two fully charged lithiums (at least as much as I can charge them, at a full 8.4v its probably a steady 180mA).

I made a thread about these in the violet laser section a few days ago...but nobody has replied. Either because everybody already knows they won't work, or just nobody cares. But this is interesting to me, and I would like to know more about why these would or wouldn't work for a violet diode. I haven't yet tested it with a PHR, and I would like to avoid doing so if this has been tested already. I only have a few of these right now...don't want to destroy them just yet.
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but nobody has replied. *Either because everybody already knows they won't work, or just nobody cares. *
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It is also possible that no one responded because no one had any input for you. *I believe that you are the only one doing this work. *As long as it interests you continue AND continue to post your findings. *It may spark someone else's learning or bug for research.

Pretty soon you'll be torturing 6X and 8X diodes just to force them to reveal their secrets * [smiley=evil.gif]

Who knows? You may be the first one to "kill" a 12X diode

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Hello Dave,
I have received the 635nmís in the mail today.
Packaging and diodes look great. Canít wait to try them out.
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