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X7 - I know the pics wasnt a slaes thread. Its a great pic of your lights but theres a bunch i cant figure out what laser or LED torch? Theres a few custom flashlights from CPF a few i have no clue..

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Whatever Lens DTR tested it with is the one I sold it with. I don't know how to even switch the lenses. It's been like 8-9 Months since I sold the laser and this guy is still giving me neg rep points like I care as this handle will be deleted. I offered to buy the laser back if he met me at Grand central station as he says he lives 20 min from the city. That way there are cops and my Military bothers walking around so no one needs to worry abut anything. I won't give a refund on paypal as he might just keep the laser. He will not meet me though. The glasses did have scratches on them, i never said they were brand new or that they didn't, The charger was new so not sure how it was falling apart and i really never used it more than 5 minutes. I know no one believes me but that's the truth. The buyer seems to have a vendetta and exaggerated on a lot of things. Every person I sold to or bought from has had nothing but good things to say. One person means nothing to me. If a middle man tested it and it was bad i would have not sold it or would have sold it for a lower price. Who sta;lks someones page for 9 months? I didn't even sign on since august until a few days ago I wanted to sell/trade my iron man laser i had someone personally make in Germany and he will have nothing but good things to say. Bottom line i did not intentionally sell him a bad laser. I offered to buy it back after 9 months of stalking but he refuses so there's not much I can do. I don;t know much abut lasers i just go off of what DTR said it was but he wasn't exactly sure (not putting any type of blame on you) DTR was nice enough to put it together and all around seems like a great guy. The buyer needs to let this go if he won't sell it back with everything I sold it to him with. 9 months is a bit creepy to stalk someone.

Just giving my side of what happened. He also had the laser for 2 weeks before testing it himself. I lost interest in lasers by the time i even got the laser from DTR. It just sat there with all the others that's why I sold it. The only thing that I see i did wrong was accidentally sell it with the wrong lens which I don't know how that happened as i never took the laser apart.
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Default Re: F/S Ehgemus build 1.5W LPM tested $300~ SOLD!!!!

Here's the last PM exchange. Mods if you would be so kind as to ban this piece of human trash....

Feel free to take a look at my PM's or whatever... this guy is a scammer and now laughing about it.

Btw, please note he's planning to come in under a different handle to try to sell his Anselmo Iron Man glove.

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WOW you have a lot of time on your hands. Its been a long time since i went on this site. -197 points. I could really care less as i no longer collect lasers. If you only live 20 minutes from the city I would be more than happy to meet up with you and give you the money for the laser along with everything else I sold with it to you. It is the holidays and maybe you really need the money. I no longer have any money issues and you sound desperate. I would really like to help you out. I opened the one thread and everyone agreed with me and advised me not to give you any money back as you received a great deal but now i have plenty of money to toss around so as long as you are willing to meet up with me i will buy it back from you. Let me know. Have a great holiday.
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Whether on purpose or out of ignorance you lied.

When I contacted you about low power output you gave me a bs run around that it must be my laser power meter, or I must have done something with the laser. Neither was the case.

Also you never "opened the one thread and everyone agreed with me and advised me not to give you any money back as you received a great deal" unless you did so under a different account.

I documented my findings about the laser in the original sales thread.

It's not the money as it is that I hate being ripped off.

Bottom, line is you sold me a 1.5W laser with at g1 lens. In reality it's a 1.2W laser with a regular ar coated lens.

Appreciate the offer to meet up but I'll pass. If you want to correct this, you have my Paypal address, refund me the difference of a g1 lens and I'll update the thread as well as ask for my neg reps to be removed.
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I don't care about my rep points how about i delete my account then open a new one then I start back at 0. I donlt have your paypal info anymore so I would need it again. you would have to ship it to a middle man first then i would send you the money. I was told BY DTR it was a G1 lens he's the one who built it. If you want talk to him. your obviously very young as No one would stalk someone just to give them negative reps especially when i haven't been on here in Probably 6 Months. I'd really like to meet up to see who it s behind the keyboard and talk like men about this. If your scared to do so well then your just a boy hiding behind a keyboard. We can meet at grand central station plenty of cops and some of my military brothers walk around in there so you can feel protected. This is the only way you will get your money back, if not type what you want the account will be deleted by weeks end anyway. It time to see if you just hide behind your keyboard or your man enough to meet me in a public place. Seriously though either way stop stalking me.
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Despite being by a computer all day, my time is actually quite valuable to me. I have no time to head out to grand central or wherever to deal with you. Taking half a day to deal with this bullshit would end up costing me at least three times what the lens costs

I got DTR's input on this by the way. He TESTED the laser with a g1 lens, but didn't remember if it was sold with one. Which is exactly why he brought up the question originally.

You can check out your own original sales thread for the discussion.

I left the negs reps to make sure that any potential buyer is aware that you have no clue what you're selling. Your snide insinuations and insults really don't add any credibility btw.

Stalking? More like checking to make sure you don't screw anyone else over.
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you know what's great I sold that to you for $250 and theirs nothing you can do about it. If he tested it with a G1 lens then that's the lens I got unless he accidentally switched them. Thank you for help paying for my lawyer. I had two felonies for selling a gun and having illegal gun parts on an Ak-47(NY with there crazy laws).

Just so you are aware I used to be in in the service. I was a computer Tech. Those felonies are now gone as i received an ACD after paying a lawyer 8k, being a war hero and having 4 medals and 6 ribbons and with no priors on my record helped a lot. Now you probably think I'm making this up but really to say you served your country and didn't is something only a little bitch like you would do. Selling a gun was the dumbest thing I did but i was Crazy at that point in my life. Now everything is easy breezy. I have one laser left that can easily be sold but not with this handle it will be deleted.

You're right I know exactly where you live thanks to pay pal. I sod my lasers made all my money back from lawyer fees have a great life right now, partially thanks to your $250. Should have used a middle man, bet you won't make that mistake again. In this economy $250 could really put a dent in your wallet. Your a straight up pussy for not meeting up. This is my last message with this Handle enjoy not being able to give me negative reps anymore find someone else to annoy. So Happy holidays even though your short $250, Also go fuck yourself you faggot.
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WTF does your being in the military have ANYTHING to do with you not now knowing what you're selling?

You clearly have some entitlement issues.

And you have problems with math apparently.... it's was $290.

You ripped me off and you're laughing about it. If this wasn't an situation involving a laser I'd report you to the cops just to make your life interesting.

I did try to work with you, and gave you several chances to make it right... you haven't...

Ergo... Scammer.
He also lied in the public messages on his wall, but he deleted that stuff. Oh well.
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I didn't delete anything i just made it so no one can see anything because its your story vs mine. I Asked the mods to delete this handle already cupcake so no need to cry and post PM's up. You are literally stalking me on the internet it's getting ridiculous. The military means nothing I just put it in there because i said my brothers(referring to my military brothers) would be at Grand central. Didn't realize I got $290 for it, go me!!!! I'm laughing about it because your stalking me, neg repping me then crying to the mods asking them to ban me when i already asked them to delete me myself. I don't want to be banned i want to be deleted.

If the mods asked every other person I sold to they would say it was a pleasure doing business. One person can't cry about something and ask for me to be banned. All I ask is to be deleted. I have never in my life seen anything like this. You have to be really young to be going on like this. So you want to tell the cops you got an axiz lens instead of a G1 but can't because the laser you have is illegal. You are too funny my man you really just made my day the whole cop thing, then crying to the mods about something sold 9 months ago. I am print screening this and keeping it for life so Whenever I am upset all I have to do is look at this page just this one page. Once everyone else see's it they may think twice before doing business.

Hey teacher this guy was smoking a cigarette outside he needs to go to the principals office. Hey you where's your hall pass...I'm telling. Also no where does it state I knowingly sold you a laser with the wrong lens. If I did I think I would admit it by now. That was the whole issue of why it was under powered. Anyway have a great holiday love you~Santa P.S. I will put Joeymutz on the naughty list.

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The record of our transaction, and conversations speaks for it self.

I have bought and sold a number of lasers. Also bought and sold stuff on ebay and craigslist. Never without problems.

All I ever expect is exactly what I pay for.

Btw... about the g1...

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That's exactly what you posted....

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I thought it was a G1 lens. My fault. I think you could have made more use of your time and made 10x the amount of what the G1 lens costs rather then stalk me for almost a year. Who the hell does that? It was $275 with the axiz lens and I gave it to you for $290 thinking it had a G1 as I stated my bad you lost out on $15. PM me your paypal info and i will send you $15. Seriously. I still want to be deleted but at least in your eyes this makes things right, that way I have 0 unhappy customers. Your still a little bitch though.~Santa

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1. You disabled your ability to receive private messages...

2. You stated earlier that you already have my information.

3. How much you bought a product for is irrelevant. What matters is what you sold it for. A g1 lens is $58. If you want to subtract $7 from that for the regular glass lens, that's fine.

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I thought it was a G1 lens. My fault. I think you could have made more use of your time and made 10x the amount of what the G1 lens costs rather then stalk me for almost a year. Who the hell does that? It was $275 with the axiz lens and I gave it to you for $290 thinking it had a G1 as I stated my bad you lost out on $15. PM me your paypal info and i will send you $15. Seriously. I still want to be deleted but at least in your eyes this makes things right, that way I have 0 unhappy customers. Your still a little bitch though.~Santa
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Got his attention though. I didn't have any other means of contact, and he was also the only guy that's ripped me off that isn't currently banned.

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I didn't rip you off. You act like I sold you a laser and never sent it to you. I accidentally sold it to you with the wrong lens. It's my mistake it was a $15 difference and i offered to pay you back the $15. I haven't been banned yet probably because I'm offering you your $15. Sure I said a bunch of immature stuff in the PM's, when you log on for the first time in 6 months and see -245 for reputation you would be annoyed too. You have your G1 Lens now the laser is up to spec, I sent you glasses, 2 batteries(one you said wasn't good I never used it long enough to even know) and you received the charger as well which was used once to charge the batteries but according to you if was falling apart.

So there was a $15 price difference which i am offering you because I made a mistake. Things happen but there are better ways to deal with them rather then leaving Negative comments for at least 6 months. You seriously do have issues. It is crazy to me to keep following someone's account just to give them negative rep points. If you pm'd me and said hey you sold me the wrong lens can you refund me the $15 difference I would have not had a problem with that. Now stalking me for 6-9 months leaving negative comments isn't going to make anyone want to deal with you. Being the Honest guy I am I offer you the difference in the 2 prices i had up for different lenses. I sold it for the amount People said I should. DTR tested it wit a G1 so I thought it had a G1 on it. After selling all the lasers I had except a green one i have and the glove one I had I just stopped going onto the forum other things occupy my time now like more work, school, helping raise my GF son. I just want you to please leave me alone. Obviously I was pretty annoyed with all your comments and PM's then posting to ask me to be banned. I went down to your level and feel stupid for being immature.

If I give you your $15 refund for the difference in the $275 with the axiz lens and the $300 (but I sold it to you for $290 because you really wanted it and didn't want to pay the $300) with the G1 lens Will you leave me alone and never PM me or post comments on my page?

This is ridiculous I never in my life have heard of someone doing this to another person over $15. To be called a scammer and dishonest over all that is just absurd. I can't waste anymore of my time with this just. Refunding the $15 seems like the right thing to do. you bought the G1 lens and it wasn't under spec anymore so no need to ask for $290 back $15 is the only thing I will offer. If you still won't leave me alone after that then your just going to make yourself look stupid and immature and people are going to see you for who you are.
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Default Re: F/S Ehgemus build 1.5W LPM tested $300~ SOLD!!!!

So many things wrong with what you're saying, I'm not going to bother with all of them. Just the highlights.

1. How much YOU paid for the laser with or without a g1 lens is irrelevant.

2. You sold YOUR laser as being 1.5W and with a g1 lens.

3. You provided a 1.2W laser without a g1 lens.

4. You turned off your ability to receive PM's so don't give me the BS line that I could have sent you a PM. You were also completely inactive for several months.

5. Before you turned off the ability to receive PM's I did send you messages that the laser was not as advertised. You gave me a BS line that it must have been something I did.

6. Price of a regular lens is $7. Price of a g1 lens $58.

7. Basic arithmetic 58-7 = 51.

8. You yourself raised the price from $250 to $300, which corroborates the ~$50 difference.

9. If you want to make this right, you have my PP information (according to one of your previous immature statements). Send over $51 and I promise to add you to my ignore list. I'll also update the thread the feedback section, to reflect that the issue has been resolved.

Ball is in your court.

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I didn't rip you off. You act like I sold you a laser and never sent it to you. I accidentally sold it to you with the wrong lens. It's my mistake it was a $15 difference and i offered to pay you back the $15. I haven't been banned yet probably because I'm offering you your $15. Sure I said a bunch of immature stuff in the PM's, when you log on for the first time in 6 months and see -245 for reputation you would be annoyed too. You have your G1 Lens now the laser is up to spec, I sent you glasses, 2 batteries(one you said wasn't good I never used it long enough to even know) and you received the charger as well which was used once to charge the batteries but according to you if was falling apart.

So there was a $15 price difference which i am offering you because I made a mistake. Things happen but there are better ways to deal with them rather then leaving Negative comments for at least 6 months. You seriously do have issues. It is crazy to me to keep following someone's account just to give them negative rep points. If you pm'd me and said hey you sold me the wrong lens can you refund me the $15 difference I would have not had a problem with that. Now stalking me for 6-9 months leaving negative comments isn't going to make anyone want to deal with you. Being the Honest guy I am I offer you the difference in the 2 prices i had up for different lenses. I sold it for the amount People said I should. DTR tested it wit a G1 so I thought it had a G1 on it. After selling all the lasers I had except a green one i have and the glove one I had I just stopped going onto the forum other things occupy my time now like more work, school, helping raise my GF son. I just want you to please leave me alone. Obviously I was pretty annoyed with all your comments and PM's then posting to ask me to be banned. I went down to your level and feel stupid for being immature.

If I give you your $15 refund for the difference in the $275 with the axiz lens and the $300 (but I sold it to you for $290 because you really wanted it and didn't want to pay the $300) with the G1 lens Will you leave me alone and never PM me or post comments on my page?

This is ridiculous I never in my life have heard of someone doing this to another person over $15. To be called a scammer and dishonest over all that is just absurd. I can't waste anymore of my time with this just. Refunding the $15 seems like the right thing to do. you bought the G1 lens and it wasn't under spec anymore so no need to ask for $290 back $15 is the only thing I will offer. If you still won't leave me alone after that then your just going to make yourself look stupid and immature and people are going to see you for who you are.
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Wow my phone loaded the rest of this thread after I posted a question... Sorry hope it works out

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6. Price of a regular lens is $7. Price of a g1 lens $58.

7. Basic arithmetic 58-7 = $51.
He could just be dyslexic... he did say $15....

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He could just be dyslexic... he did say $15....

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That's clearly not the case. Read his post and you'll see how he is arriving at the $15 figure:

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If I give you your $15 refund for the difference in the $275 with the axiz lens and the $300 (but I sold it to you for $290 because you really wanted it and didn't want to pay the $300)
However if you go to posts 15/16 you'll see that he upped the price from $250 to $300.

F/S Ehgemus build 1.5W LPM tested $300~ SOLD!!!!

If he refunds me the $50 difference, I'll update his rep, this thread, and the other alert thread. If he doesn't... well he sold something other than he advertised, which is a scam.
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I like the way he goes from insulting you to trying to sort it out.
Sounds like he's desperate to keep some kind of rep.
Even if he does refund you, seems like he should still be known for being this rude to someone who's given him their money.
And every sales thread he ever has should be watched to see for more foul play.
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As I found out earlier tonight from another long time member, who also happens to be a builder with a stellar rep, this isn't the first time there's been a bit of fishy business with him.

This laser was actually my very first purchase through LPF. My second purchase was an LPM. I ordered them literally within days or each other.

Of course the laser was coming from NY, and the laserbee from canada, so I didn't get it for a while longer.

When I tested the laser and it came up to be 1.2W, I was of course dismayed. I contacted him about. The response I got back was that I must have done something to it. This is, as I know now, but was too new to know back then, was pure bs.

I basically let the issue drop at the time.

A long while later I was playing with other lasers, moving some parts around, and out of curiosity tried the laser out on an LPM with a g1 lens.

WHOAH!!!! It hit 1.48W on an uncharged battery that had ~15 minutes run time on it! Conversely putting the focus adapter form the ehgemus unto another laser that did have a g1 lens... lower readings!

Of course at the time he was completely inactive on lpf, and I had no other means of contact. I posted what I found earlier in this thread... and started leaving the guy neg reps to make sure the problem wouldn't be forgotten. In all honesty I wasn't expecting to ever see him online under this account again.

The PM exchange since he's been back online... well it's all there. I haven't gotten any other messages from him since.

In posts here, he's trying to make it look like I'm now avoiding him, or being unreasonable... the reality is he turned off his ability to receive PM's, and the only reason he wants to "sort it out" is that he has another laser to sell.

This situation is pretty cut and dry, and once again I'm giving him a chance to fix it.

Hell, if he wants the laser back for the $290, I'm fine with that too, but will definitely use a middle man.

Edit: Here's a little game... It's called pick out the Jayrob G1 lens...



Hint: It's not the one in the middle the laser was sold with.

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