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2 green lasers for sale

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first up is a odicforce powercheck 100mw professional focusing green 532nm laser.this is the one with front shutter and blue power on led.only 2 weeks old,only selling for upgrade to 445nm.comes with pair of locking keys and 18650 battery £60 posted uk.

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next is a brand new dx sd301 50mw focusing green 532nm laser.comes with pair of locking keys,charger and 18650 battery sold
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Now I'm really missing something.... ?

My link was to what you're selling, and I don't believe my post crossed a line in need of moderating for any reason...

Did it?
 

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no it did'nt,but it does'nt help either.i am selling a brand new dx laser for what i payed for it,and my 2 week old odicforce is £15 less than what i payed for it.
 

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Ok, Mazza:

1) Just because a post doesn't help you, as a seller, doesn't mean that the thread needs to be "cleaned up" by moderators.

2) You're not asking the same price DX sells it for. You're asking more. DX sells it for $25 US, or apparently, also for $31 US (looks like they have duplicate listings). Either way, thats less than what you're asking. (£25 = about $40 US)

You could have said something like:
"Well, the $15 premium is to pay for faster delivery, since I'm in the UK, and DX takes 3 weeks to ship from China"

And that would have been a totally fair thing to say.

Just SAY it.

Don't ask moderators to delete competing or unfavorable information. Just address the question like an adult, and move on. I hate the fact that my reply just bumped this thread and added to the reply count :(
 

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no it did'nt,but it does'nt help either.i am selling a brand new dx laser for what i payed for it,and my 2 week old odicforce is £15 less than what i payed for it.

Actually, it does help. Our goal here is to make this hobby as cheap as possible. If someone finds something for cheaper than someone is selling it then by all means I'd hope they post that info, I know I'd post it. Sure it sucks you paid more for it than you should have, but that doesn't mean the next sucker should.
 
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If your unhappy with a person's price then simply don't buy from them. There is no need to hi-jack his thread because you don't feel his prices are fair.

For all you know there is a person in the UK who was planning on buying this DX laser with EMS shipping. It would end up costing him the same, but he can save on waiting times by buying it from this guy. I know I would definitely spend extra to get my items quicker.

Either way, there is no need to attack and -neg a person simply because you didn't like the price of their sales.
 

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If your unhappy with a person's price then simply don't buy from them. There is no need to hi-jack his thread because you don't feel his prices are fair.

For all you know there is a person in the UK who was planning on buying this DX laser with EMS shipping. It would end up costing him the same, but he can save on waiting times by buying it from this guy. I know I would definitely spend extra to get my items quicker.

Either way, there is no need to attack and -neg a person simply because you didn't like the price of their sales.

Sorry Matt, but I have to disagree with you on this one. Someone new to the boards may think that's a great price, and may consider that the norm. As mentioned above, we all like to get our parts as cheap as possible here due to the expensive nature of our hobby. What rhd was not threadjacking, he merely pointed out that the same product can be acquired brand new, and for cheaper.

And the neg rep wasn't because I didn't like his price, it was because of his attitude towards it all. If you're about to purchase a used car for x amount of dollars, but a buddy of yours knows of someone selling the same exact car but with 20k less miles on it and for 5k cheaper than the first one, should your friend not tell you of this?
 

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Hey guys -

1) First and foremost, -I- was the one that questioned his price. On that point:
- It wasn't a hi-jack of the thread. If I had tried to sell something myself, or divert the conversation for some other reason, then it might be a hi-jack.
- My comment was a direct response to his post. It was "on point".

2) For the record, I didn't attack the OP.
- I didn't criticize him personally. I didn't question his ethics. I didn't attack his intentions.
- I DID question his price, and later, I questioned his METHOD of dealing with unfavorable comments.

3) For the record, I didn't "-neg a person simply because (I) didn't like the price of their sales." (I didn't -neg ANYONE, for ANY reason)
- And without putting words in anyone's mouth, I don't *think* mfo did this either.
- If I had to guess, I think mfo probably -negative rep'd mazza because of HOW mazza tried to handle criticism and unfavorable comments related TO the price of his sales.

From my own perspective, simply asking too much for something you're trying to sell (if that's even what happened here) isn't a blemish on someone's reputation. It's not by itself dishonest, or indicative of a bad *karma*.

However, trying to get honest and accurate commentary censored, IS a problem, or at least should be a reflection of bad character.
 
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If your unhappy with a person's price then simply don't buy from them. There is no need to hi-jack his thread because you don't feel his prices are fair.

For all you know there is a person in the UK who was planning on buying this DX laser with EMS shipping. It would end up costing him the same, but he can save on waiting times by buying it from this guy. I know I would definitely spend extra to get my items quicker.

Either way, there is no need to attack and -neg a person simply because you didn't like the price of their sales.

I like your style Mohrenberg, i think that was the solution to the problem:thanks:
 
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Hey guys -

1) First and foremost, -I- was the one that questioned his price. On that point:
- It wasn't a hi-jack of the thread. If I had tried to sell something myself, or divert the conversation for some other reason, then it might be a hi-jack.
- My comment was a direct response to his post. It was "on point".

2) For the record, I didn't attack the OP.
- I didn't criticize him personally. I didn't question his ethics. I didn't attack his intentions.
- I DID question his price, and later, I questioned his METHOD of dealing with unfavorable comments.

3) For the record, I didn't "-neg a person simply because (I) didn't like the price of their sales." (I didn't -neg ANYONE, for ANY reason)
- And without putting words in anyone's mouth, I don't *think* mfo did this either.
- If I had to guess, I think mfo probably -negative rep'd mazza because of HOW mazza tried to handle criticism and unfavorable comments related TO the price of his sales.

From my own perspective, simply asking too much for something you're trying to sell (if that's even what happened here) isn't a blemish on someone's reputation. It's not by itself dishonest, or indicative of a bad *karma*.

However, trying to get honest and accurate commentary censored, IS a problem, or at least should be a reflection of bad character.

You do understand that by 'exposing' him you just ruined his sale. That's why he is frustrated. I do agree that your reply shouln't be cleaned, though.

All in all, it's a question of attitude. Some poeple would think they should help other members by revealing information (that anyone can reveal by himself with a bit of effort). Others would think that the rule should be: caveat emptor which is the principle that the buyer is responsible for checking the quality and suitability of goods before purchase.

Both attitudes are legitimate.
 
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"caveat emptor" isn't at odds with the idea that we should all help each other out. A used car might be sold under the doctrine of caveat emptor, but that doesn't mean the community shouldn't pitch in with their thoughts about the car itself too.

I want to be clear about one thing though:

My comments may or may not have actually "ruined" his sale. But if they did, then it would only have been because his price actually was unreasonable, and my comments pointed that out to someone.
 
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If your comments ruined the sale or not, you commented for a reason. Nuff said, the seller should have been reasonable to say "Oh yeah? Sorry, I'm selling for this price because <reason> and <reason>. Thanks!"

Thats just me, anyways. My $0.02.
 
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