Laser Pointers

Welcome to Laser Pointer Forums!

Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Green Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Blue Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Red Lasers
Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Yellow Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Purple Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Orange Lasers
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes



Go Back   Laser Pointer Forums - Discuss Laser Pointers > Lasers > Blu-Ray & Violet Lasers

Sci-Fi-Lasers
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-25-2009, 06:56 PM   #1
Class 3R Laser
 
iskor12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 2,152
Rep Power: 170
iskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to iskor12
Default Water proof Blu-ray(Instuctions and Test results available)

Download build instructions from here!!!! (11.3MB Zip File)
INSTRUCTIONS.zip

As you can see in this picture, on the top, is the host to the Pocket Mini and on the bottom is the host that I plan on using to try to make a water tight laser.


Now what intrigued me to use this host is these simple 3 facts..
1.) It’s small
2.) It’s water tight to about 8'
3.) It is of much higher quality than the Pocket Mini host. (Pocket mini host is great, but (IMO) this one is much better)


Edit: One last thing that I forgot to add....It can easily fit a Rechargeable RCR123A (Protected) Cell.

EDIT:
Here is the link to the host.
DealExtreme: $12.99 Ultrafire MCU-C7s Cree Q5-WC 3-Mode 230-Lumen Memory LED Flashlight (1*CR123A)
I recently received a new light that is the same exact model that I recomend for this build from DX. I am sad to say that the quality of this light has gone down durasticly.
This in turn could effect how water tight this build will be in the end. Please make sure that all of your seals are good before submerging your build underwater.

This host, even in it's lower quality state, should still be a good host for this build.
You might have to buy bettter o-rings for it though.


Heat Sink dimensions are(Inches) UPDATED FINAL DIMENSIONS
OD: 0.757 (you could probably get away with a 0.750)
ID: 0.468 +.002 -.000
Length: 0.545

Make up your own set screw size.

Enjoy people. Make me prowd by making yourself one and showing it on this thread.


Build is now complete!!.
SPECS:
SF-AW210 DIODE @ 210-220mA
182mW's (AFTER PROTECTIVE LENS)
FlexDrive V4
405-G-1 LENS
RCR123A BATTERY
WATER TIGHT TO AT LEAST 8'




Last edited by iskor12; 03-18-2010 at 08:23 PM. Reason: Added some more information
iskor12 is offline   Reply With Quote
List of Green Laser Pointers Being Sold

List of Blue Laser Pointers Being Sold

List of Red Laser Pointers Being Sold


Old 08-26-2009, 12:54 AM   #2
Class 3R Laser
 
billg519's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: London, Ontario, CANADA
Posts: 1,056
Rep Power: 107
billg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

That's certainly a great looking host. Put a 6x in it and you'll have a great laser for sure.
__________________
I have a few lasers ... (62 handhelds, 11 labbies, 7 gas lasers, and 6 LPM's) I need more ... I have lots of goggles too! Eye safety comes first!
billg519 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 01:45 AM   #3
Class 3R Laser
 
iskor12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 2,152
Rep Power: 170
iskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to iskor12
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

Thanks, Unfortionately, I managed to kill my diode....to much power. Oh well. I will have to order some more.

I did finish my build to a point. It currently doesn't have the proper heatsink in it yet and also the diode is dead as well, but I do have some pictures of what the final laser will look like minus the beam shots.



This looks a little scratched but it really isn't. I just need to clean it.



The switch is definitely better made than the Pocket mini.

The button doesn't extend past the bottom of the host either.


Any coments or suggestions...I am more than welcome to them.
I would love to hear some input as to how to make it better...outside of having a working diode.

Here are two things that I am really starting to like about this build.
1.) The heat sink is larger than the one on the Pocket mini. (Don't get me wrong, I love the pocket mini and I own several of them, but this is seriously like an upgrade to the mini. Jayrob..I am not trying to steal your thunder. I am more than willing to have you make and sell these as a kit, if you would like. I will tell you everything you need to know...just PM me, if you want.)
2.) This host is very easy to work with.

Thanks for reading.
Iskor12

Last edited by iskor12; 08-26-2009 at 01:59 AM.
iskor12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 01:48 AM   #4
Class 3B Laser
 
bobhaha's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 3,236
Rep Power: 268
bobhaha has a reputation beyond reputebobhaha has a reputation beyond reputebobhaha has a reputation beyond reputebobhaha has a reputation beyond reputebobhaha has a reputation beyond reputebobhaha has a reputation beyond reputebobhaha has a reputation beyond reputebobhaha has a reputation beyond reputebobhaha has a reputation beyond reputebobhaha has a reputation beyond reputebobhaha has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

your second post of pictures are not working... or it could just be me.. any one else not see it??
__________________
Lasers!
10.6um - >40W CO2 Laser - 25W RF excited CO2 Laser*
685nm - Being built!
660nm - 250mW LOC PowerLight B50 Host - 100mW WL pulsar
635nm - 430mW C6 Host*
632.8nm - Red He-Ne laser ~1mW
593.5nm - Regal 5
542.8nm - Green He-Ne laser ~2.5mW
532nm - 620mW+ lasersman Firedragon III* - 100mW PGL-III-M from JETLASERS* - 70mW Rayfoss Host*
~~~ - 175mW Rayfoss Host - <5mW WL Core - 55mW DinoDirect review laser*

488nm - On the hoist
473nm - 2x CNI lab lasers ~40mW
445nm - 3W Big Boyz Laser - >1.1W Cree C6 Host - 650mW WL Arctic
405nm - 65mW GLP-405 Aquarius host - 160mW 6x Blu-ray MXDL Host
Total: 71,868.5 mW

Goggles!
Laser glow LSG-532-Sport protective eye goggles OD 7+ 190-532nm HIGHLY RECOMMENDED!!
Jetlasers wrap around 190-540nm OD4+ goggles*
Eagle Pair Red OD4+ goggles
Scopeguy20 Blublockers for 405nm lasers!

* indicates a review has been done, on this item.

Check out my How to Build a Selectable Dummy Load Thread!
bobhaha is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 01:52 AM   #5
mfo
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 3,403
Rep Power: 0
mfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these parts
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

Haha sweet build bro! Not even the fish are safe from laser mwahaha!
mfo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 01:53 AM   #6
Class 3R Laser
 
iskor12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 2,152
Rep Power: 170
iskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to iskor12
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobhaha View Post
your second post of pictures are not working... or it could just be me.. any one else not see it??
I am seeing them just fine. I can Pm you the links if you'd like. Or files

Last edited by iskor12; 08-26-2009 at 02:08 AM.
iskor12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 02:33 AM   #7
Class 3R Laser
 
iskor12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 2,152
Rep Power: 170
iskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to iskor12
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

Could my luck get any worse tonight....Not only have I killed my diode, I also just shattered the glass lense.

Note to self....Remember not to tighten the heat sink to hard on the front glass lense next to the o-ring.....It will shatter. Plus, it doesn't have to be on that tight to make it water tight.

Wow what a bad night. Time to get some rest. I gues this build will have to wait a couple of weeks to a month, for I am broke and I can't afford both a diode and some glass lenses.

To all....I will recover from this loss, just like I have with everything else. I still welcome comments and suggestions. I will keep all of you posted with any updates for this build.

Last edited by iskor12; 08-26-2009 at 02:36 AM.
iskor12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 02:40 AM   #8
mfo
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NYC
Posts: 3,403
Rep Power: 0
mfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these partsmfo is infamous around these parts
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

Quote:
Originally Posted by iskor12 View Post
Could my luck get any worse tonight....Not only have I killed my diode, I also just shattered the glass lense.

Note to self....Remember not to tighten the heat sink to hard on the front glass lense next to the o-ring.....It will shatter. Plus, it doesn't have to be on that tight to make it water tight.

Wow what a bad night. Time to get some rest. I gues this build will have to wait a couple of weeks to a month, for I am broke and I can't afford both a diode and some glass lenses.

To all....I will recover from this loss, just like I have with everything else. I still welcome comments and suggestions. I will keep all of you posted with any updates for this build.
I guess the fish are safe....for now....
mfo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 02:51 AM   #9
Class 3R Laser
 
iskor12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 2,152
Rep Power: 170
iskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to iskor12
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

Haha...For now.

I just found an old lense from a pocket mini build....It's about .002 inches to small in diameter, but it should allow me to finish my build and to also...I am guessing allow me to go about only a foot under water....not as good of a seal now.

Still I am happy that I found that lense in my pile of junk....and my mother always wonders why I keep all of that stuff around.
iskor12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 11:16 AM   #10
Class 3R Laser
 
Gryphon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Panama City, Florida
Posts: 1,838
Rep Power: 129
Gryphon has a reputation beyond reputeGryphon has a reputation beyond reputeGryphon has a reputation beyond reputeGryphon has a reputation beyond reputeGryphon has a reputation beyond reputeGryphon has a reputation beyond reputeGryphon has a reputation beyond reputeGryphon has a reputation beyond reputeGryphon has a reputation beyond reputeGryphon has a reputation beyond reputeGryphon has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

Quote:
Originally Posted by bobhaha View Post
your second post of pictures are not working... or it could just be me.. any one else not see it??
Pics working just fine, try it again.
__________________
I see................wait, what now?

(3x) 405nm
(6x) 445nm
(4x) 532nm
(1x) 543nm
(1x) 632.8nm
(1x) 635nm
(3x) 660nm
SSY-1 Laser
Gryphon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 07:52 PM   #11
Class 3R Laser
 
iskor12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 2,152
Rep Power: 170
iskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to iskor12
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

Here is the link to the host.
DealExtreme: $12.99 Ultrafire MCU-C7s Cree Q5-WC 3-Mode 230-Lumen Memory LED Flashlight (1*CR123A)

Heat Sink dimensions are(Inches) UPDATED FINAL DIMENSIONS
OD: 0.757 (you could probably get away with a 0.750)
ID: 0.468 +.002 -.000
Length: 0.545

Make up your own set screw size.

Enjoy people. Make me prowd by making yourself one and showing it on this thread.

Last edited by iskor12; 09-05-2009 at 05:29 AM.
iskor12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 09:06 PM   #12
Class 3R Laser
 
billg519's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: London, Ontario, CANADA
Posts: 1,056
Rep Power: 107
billg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond reputebillg519 has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

"and my mother always wonders why I keep all of that stuff around." Mine wonders the same thing sometimes ... Incredibly useful when you need something fast.

Well, to me it sounds like you're due to get some better luck. This is looking more and more all the time like it will be an excellent, small, and lightweight host.
__________________
I have a few lasers ... (62 handhelds, 11 labbies, 7 gas lasers, and 6 LPM's) I need more ... I have lots of goggles too! Eye safety comes first!
billg519 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2009, 10:34 PM   #13
Class 1M Laser
 
Doofus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Bozeman, MT
Posts: 207
Rep Power: 106
Doofus has a reputation beyond reputeDoofus has a reputation beyond reputeDoofus has a reputation beyond reputeDoofus has a reputation beyond reputeDoofus has a reputation beyond reputeDoofus has a reputation beyond reputeDoofus has a reputation beyond reputeDoofus has a reputation beyond reputeDoofus has a reputation beyond reputeDoofus has a reputation beyond reputeDoofus has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to Doofus Send a message via MSN to Doofus
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

lol, what would you need to make it waterproof to a foot for? I mean does this waterproofing mean it'll be splash proof? Or do you plan on making it waterproof for say... scuba diving?

Sounds good though
__________________
Never Volunteer.
Doofus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2009, 03:04 AM   #14
Class 3R Laser
 
iskor12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 2,152
Rep Power: 170
iskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to iskor12
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doofus View Post
lol, what would you need to make it waterproof to a foot for? I mean does this waterproofing mean it'll be splash proof? Or do you plan on making it waterproof for say... scuba diving?

Sounds good though
Why does anyone need a water proof laser at all to begin with? Why not...that's what I say.

Well, water proof enough to take it into your swimming pool or what not. Dust proof, splash proof, water proof...call it what you want. It will go way past a foot, if I still had the original lense. I still need to do some testing as to how deep it will go before it will start to leak, but I can't do anything untill I get a new lense of the proper size. The pocket mini lense is just a little to small so the seal on the o-ring isn't that good.

Still the quality of this host simply amazes me for the price.

Also...to be completely honest, you could easily do away with the lense and make the Heat Sink just a little bit longer. Then the focusing ring can be put on and the end look of the laser will be similar to the pocket mini build.

Quote:
Originally Posted by billg519 View Post
Well, to me it sounds like you're due to get some better luck. This is looking more and more all the time like it will be an excellent, small, and lightweight host.
Thanks...I really do like it and I hope that other people will venture out and make their own too. I of course will help out as much as I can.

Last edited by iskor12; 08-27-2009 at 03:34 AM.
iskor12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2009, 07:34 PM   #15
Class 3R Laser
 
iskor12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 2,152
Rep Power: 170
iskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to iskor12
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

I am running a test to see how well it is sealed. 1 foot under water, for 1.5 hours. I am honestly not sure how this will turn out, due to the new lense being a little bit too small.

So far....it's been submerged for over 30 min and it's doing just fine.

Last edited by iskor12; 08-27-2009 at 08:19 PM.
iskor12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2009, 08:19 PM   #16
Class 3R Laser
 
iskor12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Illinois, USA
Posts: 2,152
Rep Power: 170
iskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond reputeiskor12 has a reputation beyond repute
Send a message via AIM to iskor12
Default Re: Water proof Blu-ray

TEST IS DONE.....100% NO LEAKING FOR 1.5 HOURS AT 1 FOOT DEEP.!!!! These results look very promising to me.

Once I replace the lens I will do a better test..
iskor12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Database of Laser Pointer Companies




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


LinkBacks (?)
LinkBack to this Thread: http://laserpointerforums.com/f38/water-proof-blu-ray-43056.html
Posted By For Type Date
Search Results UNDERWATER LIGHT This thread Refback 06-23-2014 08:58 PM
laser hacks This thread Refback 11-10-2013 02:20 PM
Search Results underwater This thread Refback 12-03-2012 02:48 AM
Search Results laser This thread Refback 11-27-2012 04:47 PM
Items Tag RIT Make Club Idea Stream This thread Refback 10-02-2012 07:01 AM
Search Results blu ray laser Hack a Day This thread Refback 07-06-2012 03:35 PM
waterproof - Hack a Day This thread Refback 05-23-2012 07:56 PM
Search Results balloon space Hack a Day This thread Refback 04-02-2012 11:19 AM
Search Results underwater Hack a Day This thread Refback 02-23-2012 06:58 PM
Nuts And Volts This thread Refback 02-13-2012 02:36 PM
DIY 182mW WATERPROOF BLU-RAY - YouTube This thread Refback 02-10-2012 06:06 AM
Search Results space balloon Hack a Day This thread Refback 07-27-2011 09:53 PM
Search Results blu ray diode Hack a Day This thread Refback 07-12-2011 01:01 AM
Search Results lasers Hack a Day This thread Refback 05-30-2011 09:19 AM
Blu-ray laser is waterproof and packs quite a punch - Nuts and Volts This thread Refback 03-29-2011 03:42 PM
Search Results laser Hack a Day This thread Refback 03-03-2011 09:44 AM
Hack a Day This thread Refback 03-02-2011 10:02 AM
news - Hack a Day This thread Refback 02-21-2011 12:02 PM
Underwater laser, just add shark - Hack a Day This thread Refback 02-18-2011 02:39 PM
YouTube - DIY 182mW WATERPROOF BLU-RAY This thread Refback 02-12-2011 03:11 PM
flashlight - Hack a Day This thread Refback 02-11-2011 10:34 PM
laser hacks - Hack a Day This thread Refback 02-09-2011 02:37 PM








Loading


laser pointer forums top













Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Green Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Blue Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Red Lasers
Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Yellow Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Purple Lasers Top 50 Laser Pointer Companies - Orange Lasers
Top Laser Pointers by Power - 1 Watt+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 500mW+ Top Laser Pointers by Power - 250mW+
Laser Pointer Database High Power Laser Pointers Laser Pointer Diodes




All times are GMT. The time now is 09:21 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO
Privacy Policy | Advertising Disclaimer | Terms of Use
Copyright (C) 2014 Laser Pointer Forums, LLC