New High Power Blu-ray Sled! - SF-AW210 Graph!

Milos · Mar 22, 2009

spammer is such an ugly word for such a great store.

pianoman2011 · Mar 22, 2009

Miloš said:
spammer is such an ugly word for such a great store.

Yeah, what ever happened to make LPF hate them so much? They seem pretty upfront and reliable to me!

-Jakob

----Oh, wait... I think I can answer my own question... they spammed on the site... ;D

Kenom · Mar 22, 2009

too bad they are out!

ndrew2505 · Mar 22, 2009

i left the labby running while i slept last night and today it was an LED. both my diodes have burnt out at 250ma. the dilda host had a duty cycle but the labby constantly...

got at least 2 hours from the labby

leukoplast · Mar 22, 2009

Kenom said:
too bad they are out!

It says they have 36 left, they had 39 when I checked yesterday, so it seems like it might be accurate (or at least updated).

drew said:
i left the labby running while i slept last night and today it was an LED. both my diodes have burnt out at 250ma. the dilda host had a duty cycle but the labby constantly...

That is terrible news...maybe these are too good to be true. Jay, you should do a longevity test at a similar current to see if Drew just got duds.

charliebruce · Mar 22, 2009

Provided my meter arrives tomorrow, I will have another one running a lifetime test (After I've done a complete V-I-P plot of course). What current should I do the lifetime test at, though? Perhaps you damaged them by reverse-currenting instead? It looks like these diodes either aren't being tested accurately, or are significantly different to each other? If not, maybe Jay's was just a freak?

Kenom · Mar 22, 2009

I also question whether reverse polarity ended up killing them prematurely However, since he only did it to one, I don't think that's the issue. I wish we had the means of reading those codes on the diode.

pullbangdead · Mar 22, 2009

Kenom said:
I also question whether reverse polarity ended up killing them prematurely However, since he only did it to one, I don't think that's the issue. I wish we had the means of reading those codes on the diode.

drew said:
ive hooked both up and got nothing... on the first one i discharged the normal way by touching a wire to either side. on the second i actually soldered the wire to the + and - on the driver while i extracted the diode. neither of them have even LED'd on me. :-/ :'( flex drive v4 was the driver i used btw..

Nah, I think that might be the issue. It CAN'T be good for the diode. It might not be bad, but it can't have been good.

Kenom · Mar 22, 2009

oh my mistake he did do it to both. I've no doubt that this might be the issue as well. He did indicate the diode was HOT!

charliebruce · Mar 22, 2009

I can decode the barcodes into 1s and 0s, but we won't get any useful information out of them. Besides, I can't do a macro shot that close, and my eyes sure aren't up to reading it either ;D

I suspect the reverse polarity or temperature killed them, or at least that's what I hope!

iskor12 · Mar 22, 2009

charlie bruce said:
I suspect the reverse polarity or temperature killed them, or at least that's what I hope!

Let's just hope.

jayrob · Mar 22, 2009

Let's hope that Dave got two bad ones then. (sorry Dave)

What I mean is, since Dave just killed two at 375mA's, that maybe they were damaged from the guy that breaks the sleds with at hammer to get them to us. Because his graph showed much less power readings per mA's fed...

I don't know enough about these test results or anything, but my 'freak' one is definitely more in line with Daves 8X. Almost exactly the same current to power graph. Even the voltage is similar. I did not plot the voltage. But I measured 5.6 volts at 280mA's using a FlexDrive and a single 3.0 volt Lithium battery.

Maybe during the testing of different ones, even if you don't do a voltage plot, check the voltage at 280mA's...

Miloš said:
spammer is such an ugly word for such a great store.

That word automatically shows up if you type the name of the store owner on LPF...

Good on you Greg for giving a plug here for your competition! I hope he finds out that you did that for him...
Jay

Milos · Mar 22, 2009

I'm getting two sleds by thursday, and my new fluke 1mm test leads for safer poking around the V4 drive

. I will report my results next weekend as i build two Stingrays out of these. I will run durability tests as well.

cheers

jayrob · Mar 22, 2009

Sounds good Miloš...

Looking forward to your results.

By the way, your 405-G-1 lens mods are shipping tomorrow!

Jay

leukoplast · Mar 22, 2009

jayrob said:
Let's hope that Dave got two bad ones then. (sorry Dave)

What I mean is, since Dave just killed two at 375mA's, that maybe they were damaged from the guy that breaks the sleds with at hammer to get them to us. Because his graph showed much less power readings per mA's fed...

I don't know enough about these test results or anything, but my 'freak' one is definitely more in line with Daves 8X. Almost exactly the same current to power graph. Even the voltage is similar. I did not plot the voltage. But I measured 5.6 volts at 280mA's using a FlexDrive and a single 3.0 volt Lithium battery.

Maybe during the testing of different ones, even if you don't do a voltage plot, check the voltage at 280mA's...

[quote author=Miloš link=1237590110/80#80 date=1237741219]spammer is such an ugly word for such a great store.

That word automatically shows up if you type the name of the store owner on LPF...

Good on you Greg for giving a plug here for your competition! I hope he finds out that you did that for him...
Jay[/quote]

Maybe these truly are 6x's then. What kind of results did you guys initially get when stress testing 6x's for the first time? Cause usually they can be driven pretty far but just wont last long right? Cause can't even something like a PHR briefly go past 250mA?

Seems with all the diodes dying at higher currents, maybe they are just slightly more efficient 6x diodes. It's definitely not as crazy as a 8x running at 512mW, but at least there woudl be some 6x's back on the market to buy. And cheaper, real, 8x's will come sooner or later.

lasersbee · Mar 22, 2009

jayrob said:
Let's hope that Dave got two bad ones then. (sorry Dave)

What I mean is, since Dave just killed two at 375mA's, that maybe they were damaged from the guy that breaks the sleds with at hammer to get them to us. Because his graph showed much less power readings per mA's fed...

I don't know enough about these test results or anything, but my 'freak' one is definitely more in line with Daves 8X. Almost exactly the same current to power graph. Even the voltage is similar. I did not plot the voltage. But I measured 5.6 volts at 280mA's using a FlexDrive and a single 3.0 volt Lithium battery.

Maybe during the testing of different ones, even if you don't do a voltage plot, check the voltage at 280mA's...

Jay

Hey Jay..
could it be a similar scenario as the Xbox sleds that had 2 different characteristic LDs in
them... Maybe they are mixing 6X with 8X type LDs just to stuff the sleds...
Or maybe you're just one lucky SOB that got a freak 6X... ;D ;D

Jerry

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