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Murder fund - LG Electronics WH16NS40 16X Blu-Ray BDR / BDXL Burner

This started as a "should we murder a BDR-209DBK fund?" thread.
Then turned into a "yes, but DTR has been kind enough to take on that task himself" thread.
And now its a "lets murder an LG WH16NS40 16X" thread :)

We've seen a couple of the new generation 16x BDR drives ripped open for diode extractions and subsequent testing, but so far, there haven't been any remarkable diodes found. However, patterns are only patterns, until they're broken :)

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While there have been murder fund / giveaway combos in the past for some other diodes, I don't think that's an appropriate approach for a 405, because they have a tendency to actually die, without warning. IE, this diode will experience the true death.

I haven't seen an attempt on the forum to test the diode in this drive yet, and it's a a fairly new 2013 drive. I've tossed the first $10 in to get this going. Because I'm impatient, I already ordered the drive (but am happy to keep it as a BR drive, or just sell it, if the murder fund doesn't go forward for any reason). You can donate whatever you want, every donation will get credit on our list. Please mention donations in the thread, so that I can get you on the list.

PROGRESS: FUNDED!
$110 / $110

DONATIONS LIST:
1: rhd - $10
2: thejoker301 - $20
3: anonymous - $50
4: Wannaburnstuff - $10
5: From the forum (520 GB) - $20


THE EXTRACTION:
Note, I won't be able to test until at least this weekend. Slight spoiler (and this could either be good or bad) it's clearly not the same diode DTR found. It's a 5.6mm diode.

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TESTING:

Using the O-Like version of the G2 lenses - so factor in the that lens is not identical to what DTR tested his 16x with.

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As you'll see in the next photo, the diode has CLEARLY peaked. My camera happened to catch the power at exactly the same level (which is eerie), but in realtime, the power output on this current increase went up slightly, but then drifted down (and of course, I'm talking about timespans of just a couple seconds).

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Unfortunately, the minute my finger touches the dial to pull down the current......

.....LED! :(

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CONCLUSIONS:

I think this is basically the same as a diode we'd see from a 12x. Same form factor, similar characteristic "sudden death" (as opposed to DTR's which could be pulled back from the brink), roughly the same PIV curve (at least it seems that way, though I haven't graphed it to compare).
 
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Re: Has anyone extracted the diode from a BDR-209DBK 16x Blu-Ray burner?

the 12x's can hit 1W, right? I would certainly be interested in seeing what these can do..
 
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Re: Has anyone extracted the diode from a BDR-209DBK 16x Blu-Ray burner?

I can't think of anyone off the top of my head who has extracted it from that drive... How ever I know in the past people have pulled diodes from 16x drives and found them to be similar if not slightly under preforming 12x diodes.
 

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Re: Has anyone extracted the diode from a BDR-209DBK 16x Blu-Ray burner?

I can't think of anyone off the top of my head who has extracted it from that drive... How ever I know in the past people have pulled diodes from 16x drives and found them to be similar if not slightly under preforming 12x diodes.

And that pattern will continue to be true.... until it's not ;)

I'm pretty sure this drive just came out in December. If any drive was to have a newer / better diode in it, this might be the drive.
 

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Re: Has anyone extracted the diode from a BDR-209DBK 16x Blu-Ray burner?

I would be in for the fund:)!
 
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Re: Has anyone extracted the diode from a BDR-209DBK 16x Blu-Ray burner?

I'd love to see some new 405nm diodes pop up. With everything thats come out so far (the high powered 445, high powered 635, the 1W 520's) 405nm has fallen behind. One would think that maybe they have improved the 405's since we last started harvesting them. Even if the efficiency is only slightly better I think its worth a shot!

Murder fund it up!
 
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Re: Has anyone extracted the diode from a BDR-209DBK 16x Blu-Ray burner?

I'd be in for the murder fund. Personally I'd be happy with a 500mw 405nm that isn't prone to degrading like the others.
 

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Re: Murder fund - BDR-209DBK 16x Blu-Ray burner

Alrighty - murder fund created!

To keep the board clean, I just reused this same thread.
 

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Re: Murder fund - BDR-209DBK 16x Blu-Ray burner

Make sure to tell people not to put murder fund in the PayPal notes - it wouldn't be fun to explain to PayPal :D

There's money left over from the 520nm murder GB, if it's okay with those guys I can send you the remainder and it would pay for the rest of the drive.
 
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Re: Murder fund - BDR-209DBK 16x Blu-Ray burner

Make sure to tell people not to put murder fund in the PayPal notes - it wouldn't be fun to explain to PayPal :D

There's money left over from the 520nm murder GB, if it's okay with those guys I can send you the remainder and it would pay for the rest of the drive.

Haha, that's a really good point ;)

Cool - well if nobody objects, that would sure fast-track things!
 

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Re: Murder fund - BDR-209DBK 16x Blu-Ray burner

Here I am up to tear one down plus I found it for $72. Save your funds.:)
Last BDR I did a tear down on was a 206 and it had a 3.8mm diode that slightly under performed the S06J but we can hope for the best.:beer:
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Re: Murder fund - BDR-209DBK 16x Blu-Ray burner

Here I am up to tear one down plus I found it for $72. Save your funds.:)
Last BDR I did a tear down on was a 206 and it had a 3.8mm diode that slightly under performed the S06J but we can hope for the best.:beer:
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Lol, you suck ;p You and your ability to buy things in the US, without Canada's "lifestyle" tax of basically 30% above what Americans pay, for everything. Funds already wasted unfortunately... (mine though, not the forum's, so no worries there). I didn't want to wait!
 
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Double-posting intentionally, because people may be subbed -

This is now an LG 16x BDR / BDXL (WH16NS40) murder fund. If DTR is murdering the BDR-209DBK, there's no sense us both murdering the same drive, and the LG looks like as promising a source as the Pioneer.
 
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I am in for $20 .. Should I just send the money to the PayPal address you posted ?

:beer:
 

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Payment from an anonymous LPF'r of $50 - thank you!

We're almost there!
 




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