Dorcy Blu ray laser?? - Laser Pointer Forums

41i3n777 · 02-23-2010, 02:43 AM

Hey guys
Finally got all the parts in the mail today, I was wondering if I wired it all together properly. From what it looks like the driver that I purchased doesn't look like the on in this tutorial I-Hacked.com Taking Advantage Of Technology - Building a High-Power Blu-Ray Laser

It was working alright for a few minutes and then it doesn't turn on at all, well it actually making this tiny sound and there's a tiny bit of light coming out.

Here is a pic of the completed build..

P.s Was I followed the directions word for word. Was there anything I needed to take out?? I noticed in some videos on youtube, the guy would take that black cap off the dorcy handle and remove something.

Regards

41i3n777 · 02-23-2010, 04:01 AM

All is well

on the drocy handle at the very tip where the spring goes into, there is a black cap, under that cap there is a driver, I basically removed the driver, and replaced the cap... Shes rocking!!!

Forgot to also add. My beam is really large, when I get close to objects its real small and thin, is it because I'm not focusing it correctly?

I watched this video and the guy seems to have a nice beam, he pointed it at the sky and you can see its very thin.

YouTube - Dorcy JR 405nm Blu-ray laser

41i3n777 · 02-23-2010, 01:14 PM

messed around with the focus and its right on

silly me.

41i3n777 · 02-24-2010, 05:52 AM

Just to double check, could anyone confirm my soldering is correct?

P.s Is there a way to boost the power? In other words increase its burning capability? Possibly changing the lens or doing something to the driver.

Xtrm2Rick · 02-24-2010, 10:21 AM

Wel it seems that you connected it alright ( rough looking solder joints though

) case pin connected with the -negative pin for case -negative, spring +positive, also make sure the spring isnt touching the host.

and about the power increase, you could get a better glass lens with better coating
And a bit more info could also help like Diode and current.

41i3n777 · 02-24-2010, 04:53 PM

lol yeah I was thinking the same thing about the solder joints, I will re do them.

This is what I'm currently using

Aixiz Laser Module Housing - Blank [Aixiz] - $3.39 : High Tech DealZ, Simplifying the LASER Hobby!

405nm PHR-803T Blu Ray Laser Diode [PHR-803T] - $17.28 : High Tech DealZ, Simplifying the LASER Hobby!

http://hacylon.case.edu/ebay/laser_d..._FlexDrive.php 115 mA

41i3n777 · 02-24-2010, 04:53 PM

lol yeah I was thinking the same thing about the solder joints, I will re do them.

This is what I'm currently using

Aixiz Laser Module Housing - Blank [Aixiz] - $3.39 : High Tech DealZ, Simplifying the LASER Hobby!

405nm PHR-803T Blu Ray Laser Diode [PHR-803T] - $17.28 : High Tech DealZ, Simplifying the LASER Hobby!

http://hacylon.case.edu/ebay/laser_d..._FlexDrive.php 115 mA

Xtrm2Rick · 02-24-2010, 06:54 PM

everything looks fine to me good current your power should be around 80 - 100mW if im right
it should sting your skin ligthly if you focus on your hand lol
and to get back on boosting your power.. well you could get a 405nm lens from Jayrob or LarryDFW it will set you back around 60$ incl shipping if im right but will increase your power with like 25-30% so thats a bit more power
i wouldnt turn the driver up it might kill your diode then, so the lens is your best bet

or keep this one as it is and save money for a better set with for example a GGW diode and a 405nm coated lens that should give you 200+ mW maybe even 250mW im not to sure about that though.

wel hope that helped and gratz on your build

and keep on reading this forum it has awesome info about lasers!

41i3n777 · 02-24-2010, 07:13 PM

lol yes it does sting quite a bit, and slightly burns things

. That's a hell of allot of power for just the lens

wow! Kind of pricey though... Maybe I'll wait until I have the cash to build another one.

Actually I was thinking of building a red laser this time, I heard there much more powerful and a bit cheaper to build. I really want something to light cigars and paper etc... What do you think?

Thanks

yeah this was a fun and quick build... Having fun

Xtrm2Rick · 02-24-2010, 07:49 PM

wel to build a 200mW+ red is cheap but you could also buy a red Dilda from DX or other shops for around 30-35$ BUT the red wil only burn dark object like black paper and such (wont sting your skin atleast it doesnt sting my skin)a blu-ray laser can even burn light objects, this all has to do with wavelenghts you can find more info about that on the forum

always search and read this forum before you make a choice and go buy stuff.

41i3n777 · 02-25-2010, 02:22 AM

you wouldn't guess what happened. I went to re-solder the joints and i accidentally broke the driver

guess I'm off to buy another. Previously I had them powered at 115mA should I go a bit higher? I just don't want to worry about it dieing on my so fast.

41i3n777 · 02-25-2010, 04:03 AM

went and placed an order for two more diodes with the housing and two Micro FlexDrive's at 120mA...

Xtrm2Rick · 02-25-2010, 10:14 AM

aw sorry to hear that, how did you break it?

120mA sounds fine to, every diode is different tho some might die @ 110 and some maybe @ 150 but 120 seems to be a magic number for those PHR's

and see it like this you have to solder the new drivers and diodes so you also get a little more experience from it and thats always good

41i3n777 · 02-25-2010, 01:52 PM

I think it was mainly the heat, the soldering iron I was using was old, but like you said its all a learning experience, kind of a pricey experience

whatever its just money.

Can't wait to try them out at that mA... Will that dramatically improve the power on the unit? Maybe 10-15%???

Do you have a link to those lenses you were talking about? The ones with the special coating.

Xtrm2Rick · 02-25-2010, 03:40 PM

wel it wont dramaticly increase the power output just a little

lenses are to be found in the laser pro shop on this forum
Jayrob's lens: FS: 405-G-1 Glass Lens Mod - 31% Increase vs AixiZ!
LarryDFW's lens:FS: Hi-Power AR Lens Assy- 25-30% Inc. vs. Aixiz

41i3n777 · 02-26-2010, 04:52 AM

Thank you so much for all the info

really appreciate it. Guess I'll pick up one of those lens kits as soon as my drivers arrive.

Xtrm2Rick · 02-26-2010, 04:09 PM

np m8

i hope your dorcy will shine again when you get your new drive

dorcy jr looks so awesome, i just finished mine to and its absolutely one of my best looking lasers

p.s. dont forget to think of the duty cycle when you use your laser, it may not be needed but you can never be to carefull right?

and eye protection you really dont want a reflection or whatever in your eyes

41i3n777 · 02-26-2010, 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xtrm2Rick

np m8

i hope your dorcy will shine again when you get your new drive

dorcy jr looks so awesome, i just finished mine to and its absolutely one of my best looking lasers

p.s. dont forget to think of the duty cycle when you use your laser, it may not be needed but you can never be to carefull right?

and eye protection you really dont want a reflection or whatever in your eyes

It sure will

Hey Id love to see pictures of yours, what settings do you have yours?

P.s What do you mean about duty cycles? Is that the amount of time I should use it then leave it off for it to cool down?

Xtrm2Rick · 02-27-2010, 01:31 AM

i could take some pic's if im not to lazy
flexdrive 415mA 12x blu-ray diode
and yup exactly what i mean

41i3n777 · 02-27-2010, 02:59 AM

Jesus! That thing has got to be really powerful. I bet it melts away things at a distance.

Xtrm2Rick · 02-27-2010, 07:24 AM

yea it seems to be powerfull im just waiting for my lens to arrive and my powermeter to test this laser
i burned my girlfriend her hand at 15 meters lol she wouldnt believe so she had to feel it
im kinda in the progress to make some sort of focus adapter, i just keep burning my fingers while focussing it

41i3n777 · 02-28-2010, 05:24 AM

lol that is funny

. So what kind of driver do you have, is a flexdrive like the one I bought? And this diode, I don't think hightechdealz sells it right?

Sorry for all the questions, but I'm wanting something really powerful for myself in the future.

Xtrm2Rick · 02-28-2010, 08:04 AM

a flexdrive v5 but oi dont recoment using it for these currents check the "12x diodes" thread and nope htd isnt selling those i bought it from a member here, you could buy a 12x bluray burner and extract it from there but im not the best when it comes to harvesting diodes from drives lol
and these diodes or drives cost around $200 might be a expensive bet if your not to good at soldering

i would say your best bet would be, a flexdrive @200ma, a GGW H20L diode already pressed in aixis that makes it easy for you, and a 405nm lens i told you about, the host is up to you as long as you can give the flex drive 3 to 5,5 volts

41i3n777 · 03-10-2010, 02:28 PM

Thanks for the info.

I was looking at the sled on this website http://www.*****************.com/sho...p?id_product=7

The price isn't to bad, do you know where I could find just the diodes?

Right now my laser looks great, but really doesn't burn as the ones I've seen in the videos posted on youtube.com

YouTube - High Powered Blu-Ray Laser Pointer

With that lens you talked to me about, would that increase the burning capability?? I wanted to use it actually for lighting cigars

Xtrm2Rick · 03-10-2010, 04:18 PM

cant open link..
you could buy diodes from members here or shops like modwerx, hightechdeal or any of those other shops most will sell diodes pressed in aixis modules though
and about your diode it MIGHT be a low efficient one and preform lower than usual diodes but it was a phr right? it should sting your skin lightly if you focus right
the lens wil increase the power of your laser so yea it can increase burning power.. BUT by 25 to 31%, a usual phr does 80-100mW so i gues you wont notice really much do the math yourself

just try to get a ggw or somthing, hightechdeals sells those pretty cheap and already in aixis module PLUS you get the sled to theres a nice red diode( like 200mW) in there, some cool optics and a IR laser

02-23-2010, 02:43 AM	#1
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Dorcy Blu ray laser?? Hey guys Finally got all the parts in the mail today, I was wondering if I wired it all together properly. From what it looks like the driver that I purchased doesn't look like the on in this tutorial I-Hacked.com Taking Advantage Of Technology - Building a High-Power Blu-Ray Laser It was working alright for a few minutes and then it doesn't turn on at all, well it actually making this tiny sound and there's a tiny bit of light coming out. Here is a pic of the completed build.. P.s Was I followed the directions word for word. Was there anything I needed to take out?? I noticed in some videos on youtube, the guy would take that black cap off the dorcy handle and remove something. Regards

02-23-2010, 04:01 AM	#2
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? All is well on the drocy handle at the very tip where the spring goes into, there is a black cap, under that cap there is a driver, I basically removed the driver, and replaced the cap... Shes rocking!!! Forgot to also add. My beam is really large, when I get close to objects its real small and thin, is it because I'm not focusing it correctly? I watched this video and the guy seems to have a nice beam, he pointed it at the sky and you can see its very thin. YouTube - Dorcy JR 405nm Blu-ray laser

02-23-2010, 01:14 PM	#3
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? messed around with the focus and its right on silly me.

02-24-2010, 05:52 AM	#4
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? Just to double check, could anyone confirm my soldering is correct? P.s Is there a way to boost the power? In other words increase its burning capability? Possibly changing the lens or doing something to the driver.

02-24-2010, 10:21 AM	#5
Xtrm2Rick Class 1M Laser Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: a "place" named Holland Posts: 183 Rep Power: 3	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? Wel it seems that you connected it alright ( rough looking solder joints though ) case pin connected with the -negative pin for case -negative, spring +positive, also make sure the spring isnt touching the host. and about the power increase, you could get a better glass lens with better coating And a bit more info could also help like Diode and current.

02-24-2010, 04:53 PM	#6
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? lol yeah I was thinking the same thing about the solder joints, I will re do them. This is what I'm currently using Aixiz Laser Module Housing - Blank [Aixiz] - $3.39 : High Tech DealZ, Simplifying the LASER Hobby! 405nm PHR-803T Blu Ray Laser Diode [PHR-803T] - $17.28 : High Tech DealZ, Simplifying the LASER Hobby! http://hacylon.case.edu/ebay/laser_d..._FlexDrive.php 115 mA

02-24-2010, 06:54 PM	#8
Xtrm2Rick Class 1M Laser Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: a "place" named Holland Posts: 183 Rep Power: 3	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? everything looks fine to me good current your power should be around 80 - 100mW if im right it should sting your skin ligthly if you focus on your hand lol and to get back on boosting your power.. well you could get a 405nm lens from Jayrob or LarryDFW it will set you back around 60$ incl shipping if im right but will increase your power with like 25-30% so thats a bit more power i wouldnt turn the driver up it might kill your diode then, so the lens is your best bet or keep this one as it is and save money for a better set with for example a GGW diode and a 405nm coated lens that should give you 200+ mW maybe even 250mW im not to sure about that though. wel hope that helped and gratz on your build and keep on reading this forum it has awesome info about lasers!

02-24-2010, 07:13 PM	#9
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? lol yes it does sting quite a bit, and slightly burns things . That's a hell of allot of power for just the lens wow! Kind of pricey though... Maybe I'll wait until I have the cash to build another one. Actually I was thinking of building a red laser this time, I heard there much more powerful and a bit cheaper to build. I really want something to light cigars and paper etc... What do you think? Thanks yeah this was a fun and quick build... Having fun

02-24-2010, 07:49 PM	#10
Xtrm2Rick Class 1M Laser Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: a "place" named Holland Posts: 183 Rep Power: 3	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? wel to build a 200mW+ red is cheap but you could also buy a red Dilda from DX or other shops for around 30-35$ BUT the red wil only burn dark object like black paper and such (wont sting your skin atleast it doesnt sting my skin)a blu-ray laser can even burn light objects, this all has to do with wavelenghts you can find more info about that on the forum always search and read this forum before you make a choice and go buy stuff.

02-25-2010, 02:22 AM	#11
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? you wouldn't guess what happened. I went to re-solder the joints and i accidentally broke the driver guess I'm off to buy another. Previously I had them powered at 115mA should I go a bit higher? I just don't want to worry about it dieing on my so fast.

02-25-2010, 04:03 AM	#12
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? went and placed an order for two more diodes with the housing and two Micro FlexDrive's at 120mA...

02-25-2010, 10:14 AM	#13
Xtrm2Rick Class 1M Laser Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: a "place" named Holland Posts: 183 Rep Power: 3	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? aw sorry to hear that, how did you break it? 120mA sounds fine to, every diode is different tho some might die @ 110 and some maybe @ 150 but 120 seems to be a magic number for those PHR's and see it like this you have to solder the new drivers and diodes so you also get a little more experience from it and thats always good

02-25-2010, 01:52 PM	#14
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? I think it was mainly the heat, the soldering iron I was using was old, but like you said its all a learning experience, kind of a pricey experience whatever its just money. Can't wait to try them out at that mA... Will that dramatically improve the power on the unit? Maybe 10-15%??? Do you have a link to those lenses you were talking about? The ones with the special coating.

02-25-2010, 03:40 PM	#15
Xtrm2Rick Class 1M Laser Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: a "place" named Holland Posts: 183 Rep Power: 3	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? wel it wont dramaticly increase the power output just a little lenses are to be found in the laser pro shop on this forum Jayrob's lens: FS: 405-G-1 Glass Lens Mod - 31% Increase vs AixiZ! LarryDFW's lens:FS: Hi-Power AR Lens Assy- 25-30% Inc. vs. Aixiz

02-26-2010, 04:52 AM	#16
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? Thank you so much for all the info really appreciate it. Guess I'll pick up one of those lens kits as soon as my drivers arrive.

02-26-2010, 04:09 PM	#17
Xtrm2Rick Class 1M Laser Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: a "place" named Holland Posts: 183 Rep Power: 3	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? np m8 i hope your dorcy will shine again when you get your new drive dorcy jr looks so awesome, i just finished mine to and its absolutely one of my best looking lasers p.s. dont forget to think of the duty cycle when you use your laser, it may not be needed but you can never be to carefull right? and eye protection you really dont want a reflection or whatever in your eyes

02-27-2010, 01:31 AM	#19
Xtrm2Rick Class 1M Laser Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: a "place" named Holland Posts: 183 Rep Power: 3	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? i could take some pic's if im not to lazy flexdrive 415mA 12x blu-ray diode and yup exactly what i mean

02-27-2010, 02:59 AM	#20
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? Jesus! That thing has got to be really powerful. I bet it melts away things at a distance.

02-27-2010, 07:24 AM	#21
Xtrm2Rick Class 1M Laser Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: a "place" named Holland Posts: 183 Rep Power: 3	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? yea it seems to be powerfull im just waiting for my lens to arrive and my powermeter to test this laser i burned my girlfriend her hand at 15 meters lol she wouldnt believe so she had to feel it im kinda in the progress to make some sort of focus adapter, i just keep burning my fingers while focussing it

02-28-2010, 05:24 AM	#22
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? lol that is funny . So what kind of driver do you have, is a flexdrive like the one I bought? And this diode, I don't think hightechdealz sells it right? Sorry for all the questions, but I'm wanting something really powerful for myself in the future.

02-28-2010, 08:04 AM	#23
Xtrm2Rick Class 1M Laser Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: a "place" named Holland Posts: 183 Rep Power: 3	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? a flexdrive v5 but oi dont recoment using it for these currents check the "12x diodes" thread and nope htd isnt selling those i bought it from a member here, you could buy a 12x bluray burner and extract it from there but im not the best when it comes to harvesting diodes from drives lol and these diodes or drives cost around $200 might be a expensive bet if your not to good at soldering i would say your best bet would be, a flexdrive @200ma, a GGW H20L diode already pressed in aixis that makes it easy for you, and a 405nm lens i told you about, the host is up to you as long as you can give the flex drive 3 to 5,5 volts

03-10-2010, 02:28 PM	#24
41i3n777 Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 38 Rep Power: 0	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? Thanks for the info. I was looking at the sled on this website http://www.*****************.com/sho...p?id_product=7 The price isn't to bad, do you know where I could find just the diodes? Right now my laser looks great, but really doesn't burn as the ones I've seen in the videos posted on youtube.com YouTube - High Powered Blu-Ray Laser Pointer With that lens you talked to me about, would that increase the burning capability?? I wanted to use it actually for lighting cigars

03-10-2010, 04:18 PM	#25
Xtrm2Rick Class 1M Laser Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: a "place" named Holland Posts: 183 Rep Power: 3	Re: Dorcy Blu ray laser?? cant open link.. you could buy diodes from members here or shops like modwerx, hightechdeal or any of those other shops most will sell diodes pressed in aixis modules though and about your diode it MIGHT be a low efficient one and preform lower than usual diodes but it was a phr right? it should sting your skin lightly if you focus right the lens wil increase the power of your laser so yea it can increase burning power.. BUT by 25 to 31%, a usual phr does 80-100mW so i gues you wont notice really much do the math yourself just try to get a ggw or somthing, hightechdeals sells those pretty cheap and already in aixis module PLUS you get the sled to theres a nice red diode( like 200mW) in there, some cool optics and a IR laser Last edited by Xtrm2Rick; 03-10-2010 at 04:20 PM.

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