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Another 405nm Magic Trick

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This weekend, I was fooling around with my ~150mW 405nm, shining it on a ripped open snickers candy bar wrapper from the inside. The inside is white, the outside is dark brown. 2 things happened, one might just be my eyes, but the other is defiantly something to trip some people out if you do it just right. As I shown the violet light at the inside of the wrapper, the whole thing moved! And I did it several times! The wrapper doesn't move horizontal in a rapid manner, but it defiantly and obviously shifts in position, will roll over or move a few millimeters! The laser actually causes physical movement! My theory, is that as it melts into the plastic, that it causes a weight change and gravity pulls the side melting down. The second phenomenon was hard to prove if wasn't just my eyes, but every time I do it I see it! I didn't want anybody else to look at it because it's not too good on our eyes... :-X... but, I noticed something that looked like what I believe to be called, "dark energy"...there looked to be like ~10 small moving particles not in the wrapper, but between the intense violet light reflecting all angles off the wrapper, and my eyes that distorted the light... I don't know how to explain it, almost like large invisible sperm swimming around randomly, looked like I could reach out and touch them but my finger had no affect on it. I also see this phenomenon when I stare at the sky. I’ve always been convinced that it’s just my eyes, but after seeing this effect with the violet laser, had me really tripped out. :eek:
 





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Diachi said:
Video please ??

Sounds strange

Well, anybody can try the moving trick. I'm pretty sure the other visual won't pick up in the camera, but I'll try.
 
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Sugar Rush happens to me all the time  ;) naw sounds trippy
last night shinned my 130 ma bluray mw -unknown at the grass going in circles -(seems to work only in lawn was cut that day)and you can see a light trailing behind the beam about 1/10 of a second :eek:
 

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Ace82 said:
The second phenomenon was hard to prove if wasn't just my eyes, but every time I do it I see it!  I didn't want anybody else to look at it because it's not too good on our eyes... :-X... but, I noticed something that looked like what I believe to be called, "dark energy"...there looked to be like ~10 small moving particles not in the wrapper, but between the intense violet light reflecting all angles off the wrapper, and my eyes that distorted the light... I don't know how to explain it, almost like large invisible sperm swimming around randomly, looked like I could reach out and touch them but my finger had no affect on it.  I also see this phenomenon when I stare at the sky.  I’ve always been convinced that it’s just my eyes, but after seeing this effect with the violet laser, had me really tripped out.   :eek:

They are called "floaters." Everybody has them, but some people's are larger or they are simply more sensitive to them. They are bits of tissue and cells loose in the eye. If you move your eyes rapidly from side-to-side or up-and-down you can actually cause them to shift in your visual plane. Usually they are not "noticeable" because the visual field is filled with other things breaking up the background. They are "camouflaged" by the other shapes in the forefront, but if the background is unremarkable (like staring at the open sky) they may come to the forefront of vision. I would posit that while staring at the 405nm light on the unremarkable surface of the wrapper/candy that your floater simply came to the forefront of your perception.

Either that or it is the result of alien abduction and experimentation ;) :p

Peace,
dave
 

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daguin said:
[quote author=Ace82 link=1222708474/0#0 date=1222708474]The second phenomenon was hard to prove if wasn't just my eyes, but every time I do it I see it!  I didn't want anybody else to look at it because it's not too good on our eyes... :-X... but, I noticed something that looked like what I believe to be called, "dark energy"...there looked to be like ~10 small moving particles not in the wrapper, but between the intense violet light reflecting all angles off the wrapper, and my eyes that distorted the light... I don't know how to explain it, almost like large invisible sperm swimming around randomly, looked like I could reach out and touch them but my finger had no affect on it.  I also see this phenomenon when I stare at the sky.  I’ve always been convinced that it’s just my eyes, but after seeing this effect with the violet laser, had me really tripped out.   :eek:

They are called "floaters."  Everybody has them, but some people's are larger or they are simply more sensitive to them.  They are bits of tissue and cells loose in the eye.  If you move your eyes rapidly from side-to-side or up-and-down you can actually cause them to shift in your visual plane.  Usually they are not "noticeable" because the visual field is filled with other things breaking up the background.  They are "camouflaged" by the other shapes in the forefront, but if the background is unremarkable (like staring at the open sky) they may come to the forefront of vision.  I would posit that while staring at the 405nm light on the unremarkable surface of the wrapper/candy that your floater simply came to the forefront of your perception.

Either that or it is the result of alien abduction and experimentation ;)  :p

Peace,
dave
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haha, yeah I thought it was something like that.... I just hope they don't do sexual experimentations! ;D
 
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would you like my address so you could send me the drugs you were on and i will do my own "experiments"
;D

i will try this next time i buy a snickers
 

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ndrew2505 said:

haha, pretty much.
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I'm buying a snickers bar first thing tomorow :D
Btw, first time I got to see the floaters was when I first did a front handspring.I didn't know what it was until now.It all makes sense now ;D
 
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I've noticed that blu-ray causes my floaters to become much more noticeable as well. weird.
 
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Yeah, I heard of those floaters Dave, don't they sort of suspend in the Vitreous Humor inside of the eyeball ? I've got them also ;)
 
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Here's one to try, and it happens with all the laser colors I have..

Shine a laser at something reflective, and look at the reflected light on the wall, or inside a porcelain cup, whatever you are trying.

You will see that the reflected light looks "staticy"- like the static you see on an untuned television set. Thing is, if the laser is not moving(such as on a tripod), the static doesn't move either. It does not seem to matter what type of reflective surface you use, eitther-other than a mirror of course.
 
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Ive got those floaters BAD.. so do my parents.. Mom's going blind from glaucoma. bad news.. I guess I'll go look at my laser more while I still can!
Really, I have no fear for my vision, so.. back on topic (Ive been tested.. so far at 32, still ok.. but the floaters do get very annoying when staring at something blank)

About the moving.... There's a video on youtube where someone spins a balloon w/ their green laser.. Highly inflated, small balloon. He shines the laser on the edge, and it starts spinning. I'm afraid it was a month ago, so I don't have a link to the video. I'm sure you can find it, tho.
 
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I think what this 'trick is is like this weird thing my dad has. Its the light bulb shaped glass with a needle in it and on the needle sits a glass tip with 4 flags connected north south east and west. The flags have one white side and one black side per flag, so light reflects off the white and absorbs into the black .When you put this out in the sun the reflected and absorbed light causes it to spin. This i find could be the reason your wrapper moved, the light was so strong in one area it was actually pushing due to a reflection or light. I don't have a blue ray yet, but im sure someone knows or has the device i speak of (probably Dave). If i can find it ill try my dilda and see if it spins.

This seems the most logical explanation for your wrapper phenomenon.
 

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Somehow I REALLY doubt that thing is moved by light, though I'm not sure, they did make those UFO-like thingies launched by a laser, somehow. :-/ Still it seems kinda unlikely, I would rather give credit to heat and moving air curents. :-/
 




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