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On The Topic of Rep Begging

What it is and why you should avoid it:

Rep Begging is the act of openly asking for reputation points from your fellow forum members. Whether it is for a post, or a completed sale, I think we have all seen those people who ask you for rep points "If the sale went well" or "If that was funny" or "If that helped you".

This irks me. It irks me for a couple reasons.

First, rep points are a tool given to each member to do with as he/she sees fit. Some people give rep out frequently, some people do not. It is an individual's choice how, when, and where he/she will utilize his/her rep power. Secondly, it indicates a lack of humility, which conveys a sense of entitlement to those you beg for rep to.

Now, I think it is fair to say that most everyone enjoys being repped. It shows that people value your contribution to the forum and it brings validation. To give people an idea of what rep is given for, let me list my reasons I give rep:

1. Valuable information given with the sole perceived purpose of helping others. Even if at your heart you want rep points for your clever post with the information that others need, asking for rep or implying that rep should be given as a response indicates to the reader that all you wanted was someone's rep points. SELFLESS aid is always more likely to be repped.

2. A very smooth purchasing transaction from a member(aka not a storefront website). I expect customer service excellence when dealing with people with online stores. For the casual seller, however, promptness goes above and beyond and when I notice it, I typically give rep.

3. Entertainment. If you make me smile, chuckle, or full out laugh, your post is much more likely to be repped. EXCEPTION: If you spam tons of threads with anecdotes and jokes, you will be perceived as one who is attempting to merely up their post-count. I do not look for spam-clowns, but appreciate tasteful humour which takes advantage of specific opportunities to entertain his/her fellow forum members.

And that is about it. One surefire way to NOT be repped, however, is to ask for it. I immediately place someone on a mental list when this occurs. It is tasteless. Much like National Augusta, if you ASK, I will let you wait a few years before repping you.

Now, another note while I am at it:

Sticky Begging:

This bothers me even more than rep begging to be honest. If you want to make a thread to help people, that is great, and I will be there to rep you and enjoy the read. If you ask for recommendations that would make it "sticky worthy", I immediately view the thread as your attempt to become better known here and to stroke your epeen a bit. It is very presumptious and flies in the face of unspoken rules that most people know or understand. You do not ASK to be stickied. Other people nominate your thread, and enough people are in agreement, it happens. Asking to be stickied is tasteless. It makes me want to neg rep people(which I RARELY do).




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Everyone knows you want to become a part of this forum. Reputation points are just a side effect of people's opinions of you, however. If you ask for rep points, regardless of whether you get them people will have an idea of you in their head. Rep points are not the way to become accepted. If you truly want to fit in and be valued, offer your knowledge, time, and goodwill to those here without the expectation of being "rewarded". Learn before you speak, do not speak condescendingly, cover up your desire for becoming well known: it is not attractive. You may be afraid that none of your knowledge will be appreciated, but it will. People don't always respond with pats on the back every time they see a prettily worded post or a gif file displaying something humorous.

I personally believe anyone can become a valued member, and I value greatly those who approach their initiations here with a degree of humility befitting those entering new circles.


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So much this!!!

We are all here for the love of lasers, to make friends, and to help each other out. If you main concern is making money or gaining notoriety, it will be quickly noticed and you will be shunned simple as that.

Kick back, relax, and enjoy the beams, if you deserve rep, it will come.
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Someones looking for rep points





Just kidding, good post

EDIT: Ironically i must spread the love before rewarding you again. Stop making so many good posts
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I'll admit I did once ask a Mod about making a thread a sticky, while prefacing that I hoped I was not breaking etiquette. As the Mod told me, we all think our ideas are the best.

I didn't approach it from a point of ego, or for brand recognition; I only wanted it to be visible to help as many people out as possible.

I will no longer ask about my threads being stickies. I will simply try to make my threads valuable enough that the community decides it should be one.
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I believe a very famous man once said

“Ask not what your forum can do for you; ask what you can do for your forum.”

or something like that.

As soon as I read the last remarks part the first line made me think of that
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I believe a very famous man once said

“Ask not what your forum can do for you; ask what you can do for your forum.”

or something like that.

As soon as I read the last remarks part the first line made me think of that

That was kennedy, even though I don't think he was much into forums

One thing I must say, is that if a transaction with another member of the BST section went well, the least people can do is open a thread in the feedback section and say so, OR give him a positive rep.... regardless if he is the seller or the buyer. In case of the seller, in my opinion, once he gets the money, he "Should" rep the buyer and not wait for the buyer to rep him first.
Anyhow reps are given on the mare discretion of the user, if one wants to rep everyone .... fine with me, if he doesn't .... well fine as well.

Rep is not going to change what a user does or doesn't do for a forum, I don't help just to get something back, I help because just the feeling of it makes my day.
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I don't know if this is an appropriate time to ask this but.... Can I get some rep! I think I'm totally fabulous and I totally agree Just kidding, don't lase me bro.

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This issue usually takes care of itself, rep beggers are annoying, and don't get rep. Nicely formatted post, like it.
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I +repped you, simply for the comedic irony.

Good post, though - I agree with several of your points.
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Default Re: On The Topic of Rep Begging

I think the rep system is broke or something I've got rep like 5 times in 2-3 days and my number hasn't gone up at all. I've pm'ed coldshadow about this with no reply!
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It's been working as far as I have noticed, Low + reps won't bump you up much.
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Default Re: On The Topic of Rep Begging

You get a new rep power point every 100 rep points you have. Example:

Starting rep points: 3423
Mrlpfmember gives you rep points. His rep power is 12, so you now have: 3435

When that number gets to 3500, THEN you will get a new point of rep power.

So when people give you a "+1", it isn't always +1. People with over 100 rep power will raise yours guaranteed, but under 100 may not.

Hope that clears things up awillis.

Also I probably should have stated in my original post, but don't rep this or make it a sticky lol.

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Also I probably should have stated in my original post, but don't rep this or make it a sticky lol.

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I think the rep system is broke or something I've got rep like 5 times in 2-3 days and my number hasn't gone up at all. I've pm'ed coldshadow about this with no reply!
The rep count (which you can see in your user profile) and your rep power (what you see under your name/avatar) are NOT the same thing

I have 53,088 rep points, but 600 rep power

People award you rep points

You have to cross "milestones" before you get another point of rep power.

Basics of the Rep System

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