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Old 05-21-2013, 12:27 PM #65
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I remember i watched a few episodes of "COPS". It is just some cops in America being filmed. As soon as someone resists a tiny bit, they whip out the pepper spray.

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I have been on both sides of the badge (in the Air Force) and I have a son who is a California Highway Patrolman.

You do NOT want to wait until the suspect does damage before utilizing control techniques

"Grandma" can use a knife
"Little Johnny" can carry a gun
The "innocent looking hippy" can just be peaking on his PCP trip
That "kindly old gentleman" may be a veteran with extensive martial arts training
Even "Sweet Sally" can get in a "lucky" kick that could end your potential for parenthood
And what makes it even more fun . . . All of those situations are interchangeable
It could be "Sweet Sally" who's on PCP

Any person who is not complying with instructions is a potential threat to the officer's life

The officer has several tools for ending the threat
Pepper spray is the least dangerous tool, for the suspect, that the officer has available

Remember, that thing behind the badge is only human

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I have been on both sides of the badge (in the Air Force) and I have a son who is a California Highway Patrolman.

You do NOT want to wait until the suspect does damage before utilizing control techniques

"Grandma" can use a knife
"Little Johnny" can carry a gun
The "innocent looking hippy" can just be peaking on his PCP trip
That "kindly old gentleman" may be a veteran with extensive martial arts training
Even "Sweet Sally" can get in a "lucky" kick that could end your potential for parenthood
And what makes it even more fun . . . All of those situations are interchangeable
It could be "Sweet Sally" who's on PCP

Any person who is not complying with instructions is a potential threat to the officer's life

The officer has several tools for ending the threat
Pepper spray is the least dangerous tool, for the suspect, that the officer has available

Remember, that thing behind the badge is only human

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As are the people they are supposed to serve.

Violent crime is down.

Adjusted for man hours, the job of police officer is as safe, and safer than many others.

Complaints regarding excessive use of force, and misconduct are up.

At the end of the day, badge or no badge cops should be held to the same letter of the law as everyone else.

Now days though, most cops consider themselves to be completely above the law.



Robbery aside, cops are just as bad, or much worse than the general population, with regards to crime.

At the same time, cops are punished significantly less....


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No argument
That is the nature of being human

Some good
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IF YOU JUST LOOK AT THIS AND DECIDE IT IS TOO LONG TO READ, YOU HAVE ALREADY FAILED

Recently a member asked me to explain the "culture" of LPF
Not understanding the culture of the forum is the basis of many of the conflicts with NooB's
In explaining it to the member, I hit upon an analogy that may work for you in learning how to get along in and become a part of the forum


The question is similar to asking why one should remain at a party in a stranger's house:

You walk in
There are people all around having fun
Some of them are older than you
Some of them are younger than you
They are talking about all kinds of cool stuff
Some of them are talking about stuff that happened before you got to the party
Some of them are talking about other parties
Some of them are friendly
Some of them are not friendly
Some of them have been at the party a long time
Some of them have only been there a short time
Some of them are selling things
Some of them are buying things
A few of them appear to be "bouncers" and are monitoring the action
Interesting things are being brought out of a "secret" room and shown around
There is a book titled "Everything You Wanted to Know About This Party" sitting on a table by the door

You don't know any of the people there, but are interested in becoming part of the fun
How do you decide to stay or go?
How would you go about getting involved with them?
How would you learn the "rules" of this party?
(all parties have rules)

Would you run in and yell, "This party needs more SWAG!"
Would you go to groups of people and tell them that they weren't holding a conversation correctly?
Would you go to the owners of the house and tell them that the rooms are arranged all wrong or that their furniture is out of date?
Would you stand in a corner, stamping your feet, whining about how nobody at the party likes you, nobody will talk to you, and it seems that no one will just give their drink to you, for free?
Would you run around trying to sell stuff to these strangers?
Would you decry to the participants that "You were at another party, yesterday, and it was way more fun than this one?"
Would you ask someone that got there just before you what was going on?
Would you pick a fight with one of the bouncers?

If you did things like that, you could expect to be reprimanded, ignored, and maybe even asked to leave or be tossed out on your ear

If, however, you came in respecting the house and the people there.
If you stood by a bit to understand what they were talking about
If you took the time to read the book
If you politely introduced yourself
If you looked around yourself to find the bar and the bathroom
If you entered conversations with some understanding of what was going on
If you took the time to learn of the quality and workmanship expected from the people
If you asked for and took the advise of the people that had been at the party awhile

If you acted in this manner, you would probably be accepted and even be able to become part of things as you learned how the party worked

If one treats the forum in this manner, acceptance is pretty much guaranteed
The forum is like a party that has already been going on for 10 years

Come in and introduce yourself
Stand by to learn who is who and what is what
Accept that this forum has worked for years without you and it is the most successful of its kind
Accept that your mommy and your daddy do NOT live here
Understand that we will NOT blindly accept your "credentials"
Respect is NOT a "right" that is owed to you here
Respect is not "awarded" for work outside the forum
Respect here is earned here

There is MUCH more info available in the forum about how to get along here, than there is at a party

It is mostly housed in the stickies
READ THEM!
The stickies are the book that tells you everything you wanted to know
Most of your questions will have already been answered in them

Did I mention that you should read the stickies?
Start out by reading the stickies in these top two sections ("Welcome" and "Rules & Stickies")

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May I very humbly suggest some formatting? I'm certain that lack of formatting will be the biggest deterrent for people to not read your post in its entirety.

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May I very humbly suggest some formatting? I'm certain that lack of formatting will be the biggest deterrent for people to not read your post in its entirety.

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LOL! Sure!

Feel free to re-format it

While you're at it you might also want to re-look up the word "humble"

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the format is list form

i actually think the post you quoted is HEAVILY formatted, dave did a good job. unformulated it would be block text and it is far from that
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"If your thread is deemed stupid, it may become a gif thread without further question"?
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Woah! Wait... I thought was a rule already. Whoops

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i thought that was an unwritten rule around here? that or ponies will take over the thread
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Well. There are the rules of the internet.

I don't like rules. So instead, I propose we have the....

*Drum roll please*

10 Commandments of LPF!


I am the laser thy Light!


1.) Though shall not spam!

2.) Though shall read the stickies!

3.) Though shall use the Search bar!

4.) Though shall not troll!

5.) Though shall not lie!

6.) Though shall laser safely!

9.) Though shall honor thy elders!

10.) Though shall share thy Light!

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<< I am silently correcting your grammar and word choice >>

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Well. There are the rules of the internet.

I don't like rules. So instead, I propose we have the....

*Drum roll please*

10 Commandments of LPF!


I am the laser thy Light!

1.) Thou shall not spam!

2.) Thou shall read the stickies!

3.) Thou shall use the Search bar!

4.) Thou shall not troll!

5.) Thou shall not lie!

6.) Thou shall use laser safely!

9.) Thou shall honor thy elders!

10.) Thou shall share thy Light!
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Maybe we could just have one

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