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I have a clear conscience on what I have said. I don't work for any Company but my little magic shop in Hong Kong.

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I believe you. But you also said you have been talking to many, many, laser companies about product, and price. So whats to stop your little magic shop turning into a laser retailer, drop shipper, ect?

The reason you where banned was because you broke forum rules, a few times. So this discussion is a waste of time. You can talk all you want, it wont change the facts. Sorry.
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I cant believe I am getting involved in this.

He screwed up, he apologized. Give him some time on the forum, and if he is scamy, he can be banned.

I think there is a fine line between one guy selling stuff, and a 'company'. IMO he is just as much of a company as the allowed people on the B/S/T forum (assuming he is telling the truth).

I think he should be given some time of the forum.
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I believe you. But you also said you have been talking to many, many, laser companies about product, and price. So whats to stop your little magic shop turning into a laser retailer, drop shipper, ect?

The reason you where banned was because you broke forum rules, a few times. So this discussion is a waste of time. You can talk all you want, it wont change the facts. Sorry.
Thanks for believing me TJ. Group buy from factory without testing is simply luck of draw. Comparing the price and test the few lasers before selling is a temp to turn the business. Thanks for helping me to clerify them.

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I cant believe I am getting involved in this.

He screwed up, he apologized. Give him some time on the forum, and if he is scamy, he can be banned.
You're not reading the thread. This was his fourth chance I believe.

You guys need to stop second guessing the Mods. Thats what they are here for. Dave is the fairest man I know, and if he drops the ban hammer there should be no question. At least not to the point of this endless thread.
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I cant believe I am getting involved in this.

He screwed up, he apologized. Give him some time on the forum, and if he is scamy, he can be banned.

I think there is a fine line between one guy selling stuff, and a 'company'. IMO he is just as much of a company as the allowed people on the B/S/T forum (assuming he is telling the truth).

I think he should be given some time of the forum.
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Hi Jacob I understand the starting point of TJ. He is right and he just want to protect the comunity from scammed. I sometime agree with him. There will be someone scammed before the scamy is catch. Which is not allowed, even once. So I try my best to make the thing right. (Buying LPM, writing review). But it actually seem it will make the situation worst.....

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You're not reading the thread. This was his fourth chance I believe.

You guys need to stop second guessing the Mods. Thats what they are here for. Dave is the fairest man I know, and if he drops the ban hammer there should be no question. At least not to the point of this endless thread.
After the few banned account. The last one is LaserIHB, which is the one that i ask for a chane to rejoin the forum and make my apology. And this account is later on linked with the previous banned account Laserray.

I registered account Laserray is not for selling or posting purpose. I haven't post with this account. It is just for informing DYNJ with the tracking number he brought from me since i have no other way to contact him after i got banned.

Yes it is no doubt that Dave is a fair man and no one should guess on him. I am also just comfirming whether he got my apology PM sent from LaserIHB and if he accept it before banning that account. I am still waiting the result for the discussion among the mod. Thanks

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hong, you obviously know how to edit your posts. so stop double posting. the sooner you let the mods do their job the sooner you will get a decision.

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I believe you. But you also said you have been talking to many, many, laser companies about product, and price. So whats to stop your little magic shop turning into a laser retailer, drop shipper, ect?
I'm not taking sides here as clearly I was missing some information in the beginning

My only question is, would a chinese laser retailer who actually tests his lasers (IR included) be a bad thing?

So far only Price Angels and DinoDirect have taken that route... if more laser retailers do... wouldn't that be a good thing
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I'm not taking sides here as clearly I was missing some information in the beginning

My only question is, would a chinese laser retailer who actually tests his lasers (IR included) be a bad thing?

So far only Price Angels and DinoDirect have taken that route... if more laser retailers do... wouldn't that be a good thing

it would be a good thing. but look at all the drama and headache surrounding him.
think of it like this... lets say you have a car that is beautiful and gets 40+mpg but breaks down literally everyday. are you going to keep it?

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it would be a good thing. but look at all the drama and headache surrounding him.
think of it like this... lets say you have a car that is beautiful and gets 40+mpg but breaks down literally everyday. are you going to keep it?

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I probably would... but that's because a car analogy wouldn't work for me... I have a really good mechanic, a family friend...

That said, if he couldn't fix it I'd dump it in a heart beat though. Unless it was some sort of classic.

In this case, whatever the mods decide is fine by me, T_J is right he did break a cardinal rule in initially setting up two accounts.

Also, I honestly can't think of a reason to setup more than one account when just joining a site other than to run some sort of game.

Ultimately I would prefer what would be best for the forum and our hobby, which is in my opinion to let him keep one account, and to watch that account closely. Any further violation = a permanent scam label+perma ban.
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my only sympathy was for DNJY. if his problem is resolved, I say case closed. if not, then keep hong around to get it resolved.

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my only sympathy was for DNJY. if his problem is resolved, I say case closed. if not, then keep hong around to get it resolved.

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DJNY got his laser... and he's happy with it. So case closed I guess.

As I understand the situation...

1.Hong came on the forum and created two (more idk about?) accounts.
2.Under one of these accounts he sold a laser to DJNY.
3.Both accounts were banned.
4.He created an account to communicate with DJNY to complete the sale/keep DJNY informed.
5.Sale with DJNY was completed.
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7.A review was posted in the review section.
8.A sale thread was posted in B/S/T section.
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10.Account was banned, threads deleted.

I guess what confused me and other is that it looked like the last account Hong was behaving properly.
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They both introduced themselves in the company section. And IIRC they didnt post adds in the members BST section. And only had one account, ect. Also Dino advertises here, and PA actually tried to help us, and us him. Everything was honest, and upfront.
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I agree. My problem is, I really don't know of a good reason for creating more than one account upon joining a forum. Rules or no rules. All the times I've ever seen someone do that was to do pull some kind of crap.

I just wouldn't mind seeing another chinese seller who meters products.
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